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eels_fan

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Well Harry Gartside was in the same court this morning and had his charges dropped. Hopefully a good omen…
 

Tooooks

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Well Harry Gartside was in the same court this morning and had his charges dropped. Hopefully a good omen…
That was due to his defence obtaining videos showing the victim was the aggressor and she made threats to make false reports to police.

I don’t think Dylbro will be that lucky.
 

King-Gutho94

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The lawyer for Parramatta star Dylan Brown claims CCTV footage of the NRL player’s alleged pub incident does not support the allegation that he touched a woman on the breasts five times on Saturday night.
Brown attended Sydney’s Downing Centre Local Court on Wednesday when his matter was mentioned, alongside manager Gavin Orr and Eels welfare officer David Gower. Magistrate Theo Tsavdaridis agreed to a bail variation request that would allow Brown to enter the Double Bay precinct, but precluded him from visiting a licensed premises.

The matter was adjourned and is next set for a mention on June 28.

“Mr Brown and I viewed the CCTV footage yesterday at the Bondi police station,” Brown’s solicitor David Newham said on Wednesday.

“It does not support the notion [that] on five separate occasions Mr Brown has approached this young woman and with both hands has touched both of her breasts. It does not support that at this point in time.”
The Eels named the Kiwi international, who was involved in the alleged incident at the Golden Sheaf hotel on Saturday night, when the official team lists were released on Tuesday afternoon. The governing body is yet to determine whether he is eligible, a decision that is expected to be delivered later on Wednesday.

Under the NRL’s no-fault stand-down policy, players charged with an offence carrying a maximum prison term of 11 years or more are automatically stood down until their court proceedings are finalised. While Brown’s charges didn’t meet that threshold, NRL chief executive Andrew Abdo still has the discretion to stand him down.
Brown’s availability will have implications for Parramatta’s King’s Birthday clash against Canterbury at Accor Stadium on Monday.

Daejarn Asi, who has made 18 NRL appearances for the Cowboys and Warriors, was named on an extended bench and is expected to make his Parramatta debut if Brown is ruled ineligible.
Brown has been arguably the Eels’ best player during a disappointing start to the season. His absence would be a blow to last year’s grand finalists, who are currently sitting in 12th place.

 

King-Gutho94

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So June 28 its been adjourned too - I suspect the NRL would stand him down for the next 3 weeks and have a wait and see what happens then unfortunately.

Nice that his manager Gavin Orr was in attendance for some support.

Most of the slimebag managers go running when there is trouble.
 

eels_fan

First Grade
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Think is if they stand him down it has to be until the matter is resolved, a mention in June 28 is unlikely to resolve the issue unless police drop the charges
 

hineyrulz

Post Whore
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So June 28 its been adjourned too - I suspect the NRL would stand him down for the next 3 weeks and have a wait and see what happens then unfortunately.

Nice that his manager Gavin Orr was in attendance for some support.

Most of the slimebag managers go running when there is trouble.
I have a mate who has dealt with the Orr bros and reckons they are pretty good guys. For player managers.
 

Tooooks

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So June 28 its been adjourned too - I suspect the NRL would stand him down for the next 3 weeks and have a wait and see what happens then unfortunately.

Nice that his manager Gavin Orr was in attendance for some support.

Most of the slimebag managers go running when there is trouble.
I don’t know why they would stand him down just because it’s been adjourned. I assume the NRL was waiting to hear the statement of facts to judge the strength of the case and the seriousness of the alleged conduct.
 

84 Baby

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If the cctv isn’t conclusive as stated by his lawyer, that makes the prosecution case significantly weaker I would think.
It more just shows where the case was anyway. It would’ve been better, if he’s actually not guilty, that it was conclusive
 

oldmancraigy

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Wasn’t it category 2 even though he didn’t return? So not 11 day stand down?

Not sure how it works with clearance, but also they have to name the team on Tuesday and I may be wrong but I believe the clearance checks are up to the day before game or something, so if they didn’t name him and then got clearance, he couldn’t play anyway because he wasn’t named

Ok - I just looked up the actual rules (a link to the document is on this page: https://www.nrl.com/operations/the-players/management-of-concussion/ )

The 11 day stand down doesn't appear to be mandatory. Rather it is a defined 'sit out' time period that requires intervention to return early from. Section 8.0 says that a player cannot return in less than 11 days unless they have received written clearance from a specialist concussion doctor. That shifts the duty of care liability to any such Dr I would guess..... (thinking about it from a very crass point of view).
 

JokerEel

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The lawyer for Parramatta star Dylan Brown claims CCTV footage of the NRL player’s alleged pub incident does not support the allegation that he touched a woman on the breasts five times on Saturday night.
Brown attended Sydney’s Downing Centre Local Court on Wednesday when his matter was mentioned, alongside manager Gavin Orr and Eels welfare officer David Gower. Magistrate Theo Tsavdaridis agreed to a bail variation request that would allow Brown to enter the Double Bay precinct, but precluded him from visiting a licensed premises.

The matter was adjourned and is next set for a mention on June 28.

“Mr Brown and I viewed the CCTV footage yesterday at the Bondi police station,” Brown’s solicitor David Newham said on Wednesday.

“It does not support the notion [that] on five separate occasions Mr Brown has approached this young woman and with both hands has touched both of her breasts. It does not support that at this point in time.”
The Eels named the Kiwi international, who was involved in the alleged incident at the Golden Sheaf hotel on Saturday night, when the official team lists were released on Tuesday afternoon. The governing body is yet to determine whether he is eligible, a decision that is expected to be delivered later on Wednesday.

Under the NRL’s no-fault stand-down policy, players charged with an offence carrying a maximum prison term of 11 years or more are automatically stood down until their court proceedings are finalised. While Brown’s charges didn’t meet that threshold, NRL chief executive Andrew Abdo still has the discretion to stand him down.
Brown’s availability will have implications for Parramatta’s King’s Birthday clash against Canterbury at Accor Stadium on Monday.

Daejarn Asi, who has made 18 NRL appearances for the Cowboys and Warriors, was named on an extended bench and is expected to make his Parramatta debut if Brown is ruled ineligible.
Brown has been arguably the Eels’ best player during a disappointing start to the season. His absence would be a blow to last year’s grand finalists, who are currently sitting in 12th place.



"It does not support that at this point in time.”

Does not fill me with much confidence.. Must be some evidence not shown by the prosecution..
 

TheRam

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Yee Ha!

I consider this a huge win for Brown, the club and all us supporters.

If it stays this way and there is no video evidence of said 5 counts of touching and presuming there are no independent witnesses, then it becomes a case of she said, he said murkiness.

There is no way the NRL can now justify making this a no fault stand down case. The case is very weak if there is no real evidence and I know without any evidence or credible independent witness as a juror I would never find a defendant guilty of such an alleged crime. Night clubs are a place where thousands of incidences happen where people of both sexes can and do behave in crazy and ridiculous ways generally intoxicated on something and things can spiral out of control or totally misunderstood. Add to that a football celebrity and who know what really went down and in what context?

IF this indeed is how it stays, I expect Brown to in my opinion to be found innocent.

But like I said my opinion is totally reliant on no new evidence to emerge and if so you beauty, play on!
 

Tooooks

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Just because the CCTV is said to be poor, that’s only one piece of evidence. For all we know they have 10 witnesses to the incident.

Having said that, I’m of the opinion now that the NRL will allow him to play.
 

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