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Tooooks

Bench
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Not guilty plea today, hearing to go ahead in the off season, would be my prediction.

But I’m not a big time lawyer. Purely a guess.
 

King-Gutho94

Coach
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Not guilty plea today, hearing to go ahead in the off season, would be my prediction.

But I’m not a big time lawyer. Purely a guess.
If thats the case & NRL decide to stand him down we wont see him again this year.

They wont just let him come back in a months time with the case still to be heard.

Sounds ironic but he would probably miss less football if he plead guilty today and case is resolved. He would cop maybe a 6 match ban and a $50k fine.

But thats the issue with no fault stand down policy.
 

Frank Burge

Juniors
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272
If thats the case & NRL decide to stand him down we wont see him again this year.

They wont just let him come back in a months time with the case still to be heard.

Sounds ironic but he would probably miss less football if he plead guilty today and case is resolved. He would cop maybe a 6 match ban and a $50k fine.

But thats the issue with no fault stand down policy.
Why should he be stood down under no fault rule when Burgess wasn’t and doesn’t fit criteria, I think if he pleads not guilty 2 game suspension and then wait for outcome before deciding any other penalty
 

Tooooks

Bench
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That’s what bugs me about the stand down policy. Curran committed much more serious offences and has his hearing this month. No issues. Burgess, same charge (albeit just the one, not five) no issue. No consistency.
 

King-Gutho94

Coach
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Why should he be stood down under no fault rule when Burgess wasn’t and doesn’t fit criteria, I think if he pleads not guilty 2 game suspension and then wait for outcome before deciding any other penalty
I dont think he should be stood down. But with the NRL is a lottery with these things. Just like the bunker & judiciary.

If he was playing for the Roosters there is a snowflakes chance in hell he gets stood down.
 

King-Gutho94

Coach
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That’s what bugs me about the stand down policy. Curran committed much more serious offences and has his hearing this month. No issues. Burgess, same charge (albeit just the one, not five) no issue. No consistency.
Why did Luciano Leiula get stood down - charges were dropped and he missed half a season of football.

What did he get charged with again.
 

Frank Burge

Juniors
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272
I dont think he should be stood down. But with the NRL is a lottery with these things. Just like the bunker & judiciary.

If he was playing for the Roosters there is a snowflakes chance in hell he gets stood down.
I think 2 game suspension not for the charge but for putting himself in that position and once court case is settled then decide . I have a young daughter and don’t stand for violence or sexual assault, but if it was some bumping and grinding on the dance floor then I think this is all a bit over the top only question is why is there 5 instances.
 

Frank Burge

Juniors
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272
Why did Luciano Leiula get stood down - charges were dropped and he missed half a season of football.

What did he get charged with again.
Domestic violence and damage property even though it was his own house, weird one, I think partner dropped the complaint and police didn’t have enough to proceed
 

oldmancraigy

Coach
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He later joined us 6 years later did anyone stand up and have a problem then when we signed him over those matters not football related ones.

If I'm not wrong, Blake Ferguson quit drinking for a while to get himself together?
People need to take appropriate responsbility for their actions

If there is something Dyl needs to address, let's all hope he addresses it in similar fashion.
Why anyone would carry on complaining if he does is beyond me.
 

oldmancraigy

Coach
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Leaving Dyl aside

Have we figured out how Reed Mahoney was named?
He failed his HIA, and is subject to the compulsory 11 day stand down.
He was clearly out of it on the field, and his welfare is important. Whether or not an exemption is granted is one thing, but naming him before it has been reeks of "lack of care for player welfare" by the club. If he plays and gets concussed again, would they be open to some kind of lawsuit?


*I think the T.Turbo one is completely different. I was surprised he was sent off for HIA in Origin, he didn't look concussed, but rather stung by a head high tackle. He probably only failed the HIA because he was too thick to realise it was a Wednesday and not the weekend.
 

King-Gutho94

Coach
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Leaving Dyl aside

Have we figured out how Reed Mahoney was named?
He failed his HIA, and is subject to the compulsory 11 day stand down.
He was clearly out of it on the field, and his welfare is important. Whether or not an exemption is granted is one thing, but naming him before it has been reeks of "lack of care for player welfare" by the club. If he plays and gets concussed again, would they be open to some kind of lawsuit?


*I think the T.Turbo one is completely different. I was surprised he was sent off for HIA in Origin, he didn't look concussed, but rather stung by a head high tackle. He probably only failed the HIA because he was too thick to realise it was a Wednesday and not the weekend.
Gus has made his thoughts clear on the concussion protcols before labelling it garbage.

This is him staring down the NRL.
 

84 Baby

Referee
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29,658
Leaving Dyl aside

Have we figured out how Reed Mahoney was named?
He failed his HIA, and is subject to the compulsory 11 day stand down.
Wasn’t it category 2 even though he didn’t return? So not 11 day stand down?
He was clearly out of it on the field, and his welfare is important. Whether or not an exemption is granted is one thing, but naming him before it has been reeks of "lack of care for player welfare" by the club.
Not sure how it works with clearance, but also they have to name the team on Tuesday and I may be wrong but I believe the clearance checks are up to the day before game or something, so if they didn’t name him and then got clearance, he couldn’t play anyway because he wasn’t named
 

Tooooks

Bench
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3,242
Leaving Dyl aside

Have we figured out how Reed Mahoney was named?
He failed his HIA, and is subject to the compulsory 11 day stand down.
He was clearly out of it on the field, and his welfare is important. Whether or not an exemption is granted is one thing, but naming him before it has been reeks of "lack of care for player welfare" by the club. If he plays and gets concussed again, would they be open to some kind of lawsuit?


*I think the T.Turbo one is completely different. I was surprised he was sent off for HIA in Origin, he didn't look concussed, but rather stung by a head high tackle. He probably only failed the HIA because he was too thick to realise it was a Wednesday and not the weekend.
Reed was cat 2.
 

Incorrect

Coach
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If thats the case & NRL decide to stand him down we wont see him again this year.

They wont just let him come back in a months time with the case still to be heard.

Sounds ironic but he would probably miss less football if he plead guilty today and case is resolved. He would cop maybe a 6 match ban and a $50k fine.

But thats the issue with no fault stand down policy.
But if he pleads guilty, is he then classed as a sex offender and would that potentially ruin any future aspirations of travelling/working to some destinations??
 

TheRam

Coach
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The way the world is heading, if an unwanted pinch on the ass is classed as sexual touching, how long until there is a law against wolf whistling at a person you find attractive without their consent? And then there will be a law that you cant compliment someone without their permission first... and then the species will die out because no one will ever hook up.

Oh and does anyone know what the problem is with Sydney's toll roads? I am still waiting for an answer on that one.

That they are toll roads and that they have been created by what Mussolini himself defined as fascism, Public Private Partnerships (PPP). There is no need for any of them and they are just making us pay more then twice over for what was or should have been our assets in the first place.

Like I told you before you have been convinced, propagandised, brainwashed into thinking that this is the only way or the best solution to a Government with no money. The system is broken and not by accident so the powerful and rich get it all. Money isn't the issue at all. There is more then enough money. You just don't get how it works and they love it like that. It is just like the old days when the priests and nobility loved that the peasants and serfs didn't know how to read. People just believed whatever the established power of the day told and decreed to them. Today it is way more sophisticated but the end result is the same.

And as they keep telling us 'you will own nothing and you will be happy'.

And also as I told you before Aldus Huxley made it very clear, 'You will learn to love your servitude'.
 
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