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ZEROMISSTACKLES

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Sam Ackerman shares his in depth knowledge on the Denver test...

I actually read all of this article :)
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/spor...bashing-the-kiwis-vs-england-denver-test.html

OPINION: International rugby league - and the Kiwis in particular - have been an easy target over the past few months.

And rightfully so, after the trainwreck that was New Zealand's World Cup campaign.

But the hate that's been directed at the Denver test has been over the top. This test is a good idea.

The Aussies decided they don't want to play mid-season tests anymore, so bye-bye Anzac Test. The options for New Zealand Rugby League (NZRL) were simple - find another opponent or only play at the end of the year.

A representative weekend was set up to allow other nations to play and for State of Origin to get a Sunday spot in the calendar. Can you imagine the reaction if everyone else played this weekend, but NOT the Kiwis?

Let's deal with the obvious - absolutely a test against Tonga, Samoa or Fiji would be fantastic and preferable.

But for that to happen, NZRL would essentially have to fund the event.

Given the current mood around the national team, would you be prepared to bankroll a match in New Zealand and need to rely on a big crowd just to break even?

We're talking about the cost of hiring a venue, paying for the teams and support staff, covering insurance for NRL teams to release their players, promotion and advertising, accommodation…

Honesty check - outside of the rugby league purists, who would be excited about attending a game between the rebuilding Kiwis and England on our shores?

People struggled to show up to watch the New Zealanders at the World Cup last year - just over 11,000 attended the shock quarterfinal loss to Fiji.

Sport is a business and this is a business decision.

This weekend's Denver test is being funded by Moore Sports, who are also bringing the 2025 Rugby League World Cup to the United States. Anyone who gives a toss about rugby league should want that tournament to be a success.

What are the odds of it going well if 14 teams just rock up there in seven years, without exposing the American audience to the sport? Yeah, nah.

I don't expect the United States to suddenly embrace league as its new national past-time, but I also think the 13-man code has a better chance than rugby union. The rules are easier to understand, the comparisons to American football are closer and it's a more collision-based sport than union.

The Kiwis get the chance to be at the forefront, and with things like the haka and the fact they're not England, there's a chance to build a bit of a following in years to come.

Critics love to rip rugby league (again, with good reason) for not having enough international reach and credibility.
So what happens when the sport tries to improve both? It gets slammed for trying.

Hopefully, the Kiwis will have a stronger line-up to choose from in October, when they're set to host Australia on home soil. That is a rare occurrence and I know which test I'd rather NZRL ensured was played in front of a Kiwi audience.

Another reason it's a good thing? NRL clubs flexed their muscle and didn't get their way.

This is a step towards maturity for the sport.

There was a genuine chance the test would be called off, as franchises bristled at the idea of releasing their players. We still have players like Shaun Johnson and Gerard Beale being withdrawn from consideration by the Warriors, with the likes of Roger Tuivasa-Sheck and Tohu Harris making themselves unavailable.

But in general, the clubs have conceded to allow their players to go.

This is a big step forward. Teams that aren't Australia have been hamstrung time and time again as clubs come up with factitious injuries or excuses to hold players back from representing their country.

State of Origin is a much bigger risk to player welfare - some players backing up to play within 48 hours.

New South Wales and Queensland players miss more football than anyone involved in Sunday's American expedition will, yet we hear coaches going to great lengths to talk up their players' selection chances for that arena.

If you have a problem with the Denver game, you better be as vehemently vocal about the next time the All Blacks play games that don't involve the host nation in the US or Japan. Where's the furore about the ABs playing the Wallabies in Yokohama in October?

The Kiwis have a new coach, plenty of new players, and the chance to rebuild their style and culture. Getting the chance to do that first-up away from the national spotlight isn't a terrible thing either.

There is one clear and present way to make sure there are more tests played in New Zealand in the future - show up, put your backside on a seat and show you're prepared to put your money where your mouth is.

That's the one action that never gets ignored.

Sam Ackerman is Newshub sports director.
 

Fufu Andronez

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So worst case scenario with Hiku, Maumalo, Kata and Fusitua out what would our backline be?

1. RTS
2. Soosemea/JTS
3. Beale
4. Ayshford
5. CNK

I can see why SK would wanna rush Maumalo and Hiku back in
 

Fufu Andronez

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25 man squad named

VODAFONE WARRIORS v CRONULLA-SUTHERLAND SHARKS
8.00pm, Friday, June 29, 2018
Mount Smart Stadium, Auckland

VODAFONE WARRIORS

1 Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (c)
2 David Fusitu'a
3 Anthony Gelling
4 Solomone Kata
5 Gerard Beale
6 Blake Green
7 Shaun Johnson
8 James Gavet
9 Karl Lawton
10 Agnatius Paasi
11 Isaiah Papali'i
12 Tohu Harris
13 Simon Mannering

Interchange
14 Sam Cook
15 Chris Satae
16 Bunty Afoa
17 Jazz Tevaga
18 Blake Ayshford
21 Sam Lisone
22 Albert Vete
23 Peta Hiku
24 Issac Luke
25 Ken Maumalo
 

One Warrior

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25 man squad named

VODAFONE WARRIORS v CRONULLA-SUTHERLAND SHARKS
8.00pm, Friday, June 29, 2018
Mount Smart Stadium, Auckland

VODAFONE WARRIORS

1 Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (c)
2 David Fusitu'a
3 Anthony Gelling
4 Solomone Kata
5 Gerard Beale
6 Blake Green
7 Shaun Johnson
8 James Gavet
9 Karl Lawton
10 Agnatius Paasi
11 Isaiah Papali'i
12 Tohu Harris
13 Simon Mannering

Interchange
14 Sam Cook
15 Chris Satae
16 Bunty Afoa
17 Jazz Tevaga
18 Blake Ayshford
21 Sam Lisone
22 Albert Vete
23 Peta Hiku
24 Issac Luke
25 Ken Maumalo
Its a 23 man squad, there is no 19 or 20 listed, squad will be reduced to 19 or Thursday as per normal.
 

Meth

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25 man squad named

VODAFONE WARRIORS v CRONULLA-SUTHERLAND SHARKS
8.00pm, Friday, June 29, 2018
Mount Smart Stadium, Auckland

VODAFONE WARRIORS

1 Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (c)
2 David Fusitu'a
3 Anthony Gelling
4 Solomone Kata
5 Gerard Beale
6 Blake Green
7 Shaun Johnson
8 James Gavet
9 Karl Lawton
10 Agnatius Paasi
11 Isaiah Papali'i
12 Tohu Harris
13 Simon Mannering

Interchange
14 Sam Cook
15 Chris Satae
16 Bunty Afoa
17 Jazz Tevaga
18 Blake Ayshford
21 Sam Lisone
22 Albert Vete
23 Peta Hiku
24 Issac Luke
25 Ken Maumalo

So hopefully Maumalo and Luke slot in as a minimum
 
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8pm NZT is 10am in Denver.
If any jetlag their bodies should feel like it's morning which is better than say 2am.

I suspect they will be using melatonin and when they hit the plane start basic activities around NZ e.g. eat and sleep.
 

Fufu Andronez

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Might be an unpopular opinion, but just from the bits and pieces I've seen of the ISP, CNK and Ayshford haven't really set the world on fire and aren't banging the door down for mine. Gelling has been decent enough to deserve to be first cab off the ranks IMO after Beale.
 

Fufu Andronez

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8pm NZT is 10am in Denver.
If any jetlag their bodies should feel like it's morning which is better than say 2am.

I suspect they will be using melatonin and when they hit the plane start basic activities around NZ e.g. eat and sleep.
Is it safe to assume they are flying back in business/first class? That alone should make up for a little bit of jetlag.

Surely they aren't trying to fit Kenny Maumalo into an economy seat
 

ZEROMISSTACKLES

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Might be an unpopular opinion, but just from the bits and pieces I've seen of the ISP, CNK and Ayshford haven't really set the world on fire and aren't banging the door down for mine. Gelling has been decent enough to deserve to be first cab off the ranks IMO after Beale.
Thanks for that. I was wondering how Aysh and CNK have been going in the ISP cup because I was thinkin the same exact thing that - they've been overlooked by Kearney because they're strugglin in reserve grade. That makes more sense.
 

ZEROMISSTACKLES

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Is it safe to assume they are flying back in business/first class? That alone should make up for a little bit of jetlag.
I'm going completely off track here but the Tongan rugby union is jealous of their league team because of their praise and money.

I actually heard on the news last night that the Tongan Rugby execs flew first class to a game where the Tongan rugby team was playing, while the team endured a boat rideo_O

Rugby union in the islands is corrupt.
 

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They might end up in central America the way Trumps thinking & policies go...better keep their cool at the airport where the cops & security are locked and loaded...might be a case of "you're in Guatemala now Dr Ropata". At least San Fran is a sanctuary city :eek:
 

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Trump best not be in charge of Merica when the USA/Mexico/Canada host the Football World Cup...will be a friggin nightmare for visas..
 

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I'm going completely off track here but the Tongan rugby union is jealous of their league team because of their praise and money.

I actually heard on the news last night that the Tongan Rugby execs flew first class to a game where the Tongan rugby team was playing, while the team endured a boat rideo_O

Rugby union in the islands is corrupt.

I was in Fiji last week and stayed at a hotel with the Tongan Rugby team. They look like they're doing things pretty budget.
 
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