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The Colonel

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He wasn't taken out illegally. He was taken out late. There was NO dangerous contact. The referees played advantage on the penalty and had Penrith not scored they would have gone back to the play and called one.

The hysteria surrounding this in the media is ridiculous.

The shoulder charge on Sandow has not been subject to the same scrutiny and the shoulder charge play is illegal.
 
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Maybe I'm simplifying things too much, but look at both tackles in isolation. One get 10 weeks, the other gets nothing. I know you tried to explain why, but there is an inconsistency there that just doesn't wash with me.

Suity

Oh, sure I thought Hodges' was dangerous, and deserves a couple of weeks (which he clearly hasn't copped). But I'm not sure that Paulo's is the best 'form line' to run through it. Paulo's doesn't look too bad on fast motion, but when you break it down it is not good.....even if there's absolutely no intent.

PS: Paulo got 9 games....the number of weeks is not really the way to assess it (or someone suspended in September looks like they have 6 months suspension :). )
 

oldmancraigy

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So is it legal to take players out late Colonel???

[I agree, because Johns blew up about it, there is a feeding frenzy about it, but methinks a late hit is illegal, no?]
 

The Colonel

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So is it legal to take players out late Colonel???

[I agree, because Johns blew up about it, there is a feeding frenzy about it, but methinks a late hit is illegal, no?]

The tackle itself wasn't illegal which is what TheFrog is trying to argue. The play is but the tackle wasn't outside of it being late. There was no dangerous contact. Nothing high. Yes, it's illegal in that sense but the tackle itself wasn't.
 

Obscene Assassin

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Pauli had 1 step from him committing to the tackle to when he hit Soward, I don't understand where he was meant to change direction or slow his momentum down so that Soward wasn't going to be tackled. http://gfycat.com/EasySleepyJaguar#

Are we going to ignore the shoulder charge from Segeyaro on Sandow and the shoulder charge from Cartwright on Radradra? Both of those were illegal tackles and they both had intent. Neither were penalised.
 

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Semi got hit late too after he passed to Robinson for the try, did the ref talk to anyone about that?

Anasta said the game is going soft when talking about this incident, I agree with him.

Too many worries about dumb f**king hysterical mothers not letting their kids play!
 
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Thankyou. That was my point. The rest of your post was irrelevant, which is why it was ignored and why I didn't quote it.

Suity

With respect, your post was about inconsistency as well as Hodges' case in isolation. The rest of my post pointed out that the base to which you were comparing Hodges tackle included a lot of stuff that has nothing directly to do with the tackle itself. So I'm not really sure how that is irrelevant, but whatever.
 

oldmancraigy

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The tackle itself wasn't illegal which is what TheFrog is trying to argue. The play is but the tackle wasn't outside of it being late. There was no dangerous contact. Nothing high. Yes, it's illegal in that sense but the tackle itself wasn't.

Don't worry, I was completely following you! Just thought it was funny when you said
He wasn't taken out illegally. He was taken out late.

That's kind of illegal, but I totally understand you were saying that the style of tackle wasn't illegal - just having some fun :lol:
 

The Colonel

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Yeah. :lol:

I know what I meant.

Outside of the tackle being late there wasn't anything else illegal about the tackle that warrants a charge of dangerous contact.
 

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With respect, your post was about inconsistency as well as Hodges' case in isolation. The rest of my post pointed out that the base to which you were comparing Hodges tackle included a lot of stuff that has nothing directly to do with the tackle itself. So I'm not really sure how that is irrelevant, but whatever.

And my point was about the tackle itself, with which the inconsistencies of the MRP were an issue. Hodges didn't have a case to answer, and you agreed that he should have.
Whether Paulo got 10 weeks or 6 is neither here nor there to me. It is the fact that both tackles were dangerous, yet one gets charged, and one doesn't.
Hence my problem with the MRP.

Suity
 

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Are we going to ignore the shoulder charge from Segeyaro on Sandow and the shoulder charge from Cartwright on Radradra? Both of those were illegal tackles and they both had intent. Neither were penalised.

How was the Cartwright one missed? Segeyaro at least pretended he tried to get arms up, Cartwright's was a classic shoulder charge
 

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The tackle itself wasn't illegal which is what TheFrog is trying to argue.

Something is either legal or its not. A late tackle is not. The receiving player is not prepared for it and cannot take evasive measures. This one was not just late, it was extremely late. Because the player tackled is looking at where he is passing/kicking and is possibly off balance it is more likely to lead to injury than a tackle where the player has the ball and is looking at the tackler. I would have thought these things were pretty obvious to anyone who follows the game.

It was a tackle that was not necessary, illegal, and resulted in a significant injury. This sort of hit on the field needs to be stamped out. The offender has form. He should be rubbed out of the game for a while and I hope he is, but if the game won't protect Thurston I don't suppose it will protect Soward either.

Are we going to ignore the shoulder charge from Segeyaro on Sandow and the shoulder charge from Cartwright on Radradra? Both of those were illegal tackles and they both had intent. Neither were penalised.

Do you have an approximate time in the game when these incidents occurred, I'm not familiar with them.
 
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It was a tackle that was not necessary, illegal, and resulted in a significant injury. This sort of hit on the field needs to be stamped out. The offender has form. He should be rubbed out of the game for a while and I hope he is, but if the game won't protect Thurston I don't suppose it will protect Soward either.

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What form? Serious question.
 

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Something is either legal or its not. A late tackle is not. The receiving player is not prepared for it and cannot take evasive measures. This one was not just late, it was extremely late. Because the player tackled is looking at where he is passing/kicking and is possibly off balance it is more likely to lead to injury than a tackle where the player has the ball and is looking at the tackler. I would have thought these things were pretty obvious to anyone who follows the game.

I am happy that you were able to quote almost word for word what Johns was rabbiting on about. I am aware of why they are screaming their tits off.

It was a tackle that was not necessary, illegal, and resulted in a significant injury. This sort of hit on the field needs to be stamped out. The offender has form. He should be rubbed out of the game for a while and I hope he is, but if the game won't protect Thurston I don't suppose it will protect Soward either.

It was late, yes. That does make it illegal. it is a part of the game and should remain so because it is a contact sport. The player does not have form unless you can provide examples for us. A penalty, had the try not been scored, would have been sufficient. It wasn't, unless you view the tackle in slow motion, "extremely" late either. The tackle was not high, it was not dangerous.... It was a strong tackle that could have caused the same injury if it wasn't late.

If the halfback is going to take the ball to the line he is going to be tackled. The game has been softened enough without sycophants like yourself moaning after their team was well beaten about something that happens every week. Piss off back to your forum and take your butt hurt with you
 
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Meanwhile Billy Slater shoulder-charged Dugan in the head AFTER he had kicked the ball. Then for his second act he dropped the elbow on the back of a prone player in goal.
Billy most certainly 'has form', and there is no doubt both plays deserve some scrutiny. Watch the MRC make a big deal out of Pauli Pauli so that they can pretend Billy did nothing wrong....
 
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