The ABC at it again

[chefman21]

you're a bloke who cooks food and got owned

i suppose it's better than being a podiatrist though

No. I used to cook food. A VERY long time ago.

How do you figure I got owned when the statistics given are based on a guess?

 

[El Diablo]

he had two sources you halfwit cook

did you miss them BOTH?

obviously

 

[chefman21]

he had two sources you halfwit cook

did you miss them BOTH?

obviously

Hey halfwit. You know they are both based on estimates? Not factual data. Until the next Australia Census comes out we don't know the exact population of this country.

 

[El Diablo]

jesus wept

can't admit you're wrong

and you said you were humble :lol:

 

[chefman21]

jesus wept

can't admit you're wrong

and you said you were humble :lol:

I'm not wrong. You can't base statistical data on guesses. It's as simple as that.

 

[Willow]

lol. What a tool.

Certificate III in Hospitality (Commercial Cookery) (completed - 1992)
BSc (Econ) (Hons) - University College London (completed - 2000)
MSc in Globalisation - University College London (completed - 2007)
MAS in Development and Cooperation - ETH Zurich (part time - deferred)
Since you asked.

:lol: I can't believe you fell for that bait.

How stupid.

I don't hate people. I hate stupid people.

You shouldn't put yourself down.

I am humble. But I also know I am right. Everyone has there role.

lol

I don't. There are many people I look up to. I'm not a superior intellect. I am educated.

You called yourself superior.

Your posts are dripping with it.

And are you ready for the coup de grâce? You know the population clock? You know what it is based on? An estimate. A guess. It is not factual data. You're basing your statistics and factual information on a guess...:lol:

lol. No surprise that you would try to refute the source. The ABS was OK when you were using its old data. The projections are the best we can get for recent data. Even if you were to add another half of a percent, it would still fall short of the NRL attendance growth rate.

And the World Bank's data has an Australian population growth rate of 1.7% since 1960 - I note that you ignored that.

What's your annual growth rate cookie? Make it up if you like.

FTR, I have revised my figures down following a double check. Funny how you missed that, what with your huge educated brain and all.

Btw, I'm a pretty good cook. I reckon I could wipe the floor with you in that area as well.

 

[Willow]

Hey halfwit. You know they are both based on estimates? Not factual data. Until the next Australia Census comes out we don't know the exact population of this country.

Well FMD. LOL. That means you have been bullsitting all along. Everything you've said is a guess too?

Exactly what are you basing your argument on Cookie?

 

[El Diablo]

Well FMD. LOL. That means you have been bullsitting all along. Everything you've said is a guess too?

Exactly what are you basing your argument on Cookie?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-OFXUaMIv8

 

[Willow]

How can you be a cook and a paint yourself into a corner at the same time?

Take no offence Chef, as I can see how highly you rate yourself, but you a terrible debater. I mean, absolutely sh*thouse.

 

[Perth Red]

I'm not wrong. You can't base statistical data on guesses. It's as simple as that.

but surely you have if you are saying there is no accurate statistical data at this point in time? At least they have referenced "some" evidence! Where's yours?

 

[chefman21]

lol. What a tool.:lol: I can't believe you fell for that bait.

How stupid.

Bait? I enjoyed wiping your snotty little nose with that. Come on big shot. What have you got?

You shouldn't put yourself down.

Not going to bother with that one.

You called yourself superior.
Your posts are dripping with it.

I said that I had a better education. I also said that others are better educated in areas I am not.

lol. No surprise that you would try to refute the source. The ABS was OK when you were using its old data. The projections are the best we can get for recent data. Even if you were to add another half of a percent, it would still fall short of the NRL attendance growth rate.

And the World Bank's data has an Australian population growth rate of 1.7% since 1960 - I note that you ignored that.

What's your annual growth rate cookie? Make it up if you like.

I'm using old data because it has a historical basis in fact and is proven data. You want to compare crowds on estimates and not against actual population figures. In this case your percentage is the one that doesn't count. Because it is an estimate. It's the raw figure. You would of known that one if you knew anything about statistics. I don't make up data. I use actual figures. Unlike you who uses estimates and then tries to make it into a factual statement. You should sell vacuum cleaners or something.

FTR, I have revised my figures down following a double check. Funny how you missed that, what with your huge educated brain and all.

I didn't have to notice it because your figures are based on estimates not factual data. Bring me figures with the actual, current population and the we can start playing statistics.

Btw, I'm a pretty good cook. I reckon I could wipe the floor with you in that area as well.

What's that saying? Something about bringing you down to their level and beating you with experience?

Well FMD. LOL. That means you have been bullsitting all along. Everything you've said is a guess too?

Exactly what are you basing your argument on Cookie?

Okay Captain Short End. Here's the deal. The figures given by others are questionable. The figures given are raw data, and I don't doubt that they are correct figures. But they have not been compared against the thing that counts. Population growth. Since we don't know the exact population, considering it is based on estimates, the raw data can't be compared against another variable. You can't compare raw data against itself, because it doesn't give a statistically significant result. I explained this earlier. It was in the t-test post amongst others. Yes, the number of people who have attended each year has increased. But that number doesn't count until you compare it against population growth.

but surely you have if you are saying there is no accurate statistical data at this point in time? At least they have referenced "some" evidence! Where's yours?

I haven't based my data on guesses. My evidence is based on the only proven, factual data we have, which is from the last Australian Census. Crowd numbers may have increased in the past 5 years in line with population growth. And I don't doubt the numbers given are correct. Those figures may well reflect a percentage increase. And it's the best data we've got. But don't read too much into it. As I said earlier, if you don't have another variable to compare it against, then the numbers are a reflection of nothing. In other words it's a guess based on raw data without something to compare it against. For all we know those numbers have shown that crowd percentages have dropped off significantly in line with population growth. Or they could show that crowd numbers have tripled in percentage attending. But until you have that second variable...

 

[chefman21]

How can you be a cook and a paint yourself into a corner at the same time?

Take no offence Chef, as I can see how highly you rate yourself, but you a terrible debater. I mean, absolutely sh*thouse.

I can say the same thing about you. But you know what the difference is? I bring proven facts and theoretical concepts. You bring guesses and opinions based on a lack of knowledge.

 

[Willow]

I'm using old data because it has a historical basis in fact and is proven data.

I provided data from 1960-2008 that showed Australia's population growth to be 1.7% p.a.

I also posted NRL crowd figures since 2006 that showed an average annual growth of 2.9%

You haven't provided anything other than a lot of hot air.

You have been proven wrong. You obviously didn't think it through.

You want to compare crowds on estimates and not against actual population figures.

You're now resorting to lies.

You lost the debate, and the stress of this is becoming increasingly evident in your posts.

 

[applesauce]

Hey halfwit. You know they are both based on estimates? Not factual data. Until the next Australia Census comes out we don't know the exact population of this country.

You do realise Census data ia also an estimate? The whole population does not fill in/is accounted for when a Census occurs...

Fail :roll:

 

[chefman21]

I provided data from 1960-2008 that showed Australia's population growth to be 1.7% p.a.

I also posted NRL crowd figures since 2006 that showed an average annual growth of 2.9%

You haven't provided anything other than a lot of hot air.

You have been proven wrong. You obviously didn't think it through.

You can't compare a percentage against a percentage. You compare raw data against raw data to get a percentage, which becomes the statistically significant number. If you knew anything - anything at all - about statistics and how they work then you would know that. Which is what makes you and me different. I have provided theoretical concepts. You have provided bugger all.

You're now resorting to lies.

You lost the debate, and the stress of this is becoming increasingly evident in your posts.

They even say they are estimates.... :lol::lol::lol:

You do realise Census data ia also an estimate? The whole population does not fill in/is accounted for when a Census occurs...

Fail :roll:

It's not an estimate. These figures aren't made up. Someone didn't since there and guess how many people there were. The majority of the population filled out the form. It's the best figure this country has of actual population numbers which isn't based on estimates using mathematical equations. If you send out 100 surveys they won't all be completed. So you take what numbers you have and then look at means, modes, standard deviations and the like for what variables you want to compare.

If you want to say crowds have increased then you compare against population growth percentage not against itself. And to get that population growth percentage you need to compare raw data against raw data. Not like Willow has done by comparing an estimated percentage against other percentages or estimated population numbers.

Fail. :roll:

 

[badav]

In the real world outside of this Rugby League forum, peoples opinions of Rugby League are actually swayed by negative publicity and off field incidents.

It amazes me how many rock brains on this forum cannot comprehend that simple concept.

Lets take this El Diablo clown for example.

Everytime something goes wrong in league and the game attracts negative headlines, all he can do is google AFL articles from years back or post quotes of something someone said in 2007.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

Certificate III in Hospitality (Commercial Cookery) (completed - 1992)
BSc (Econ) (Hons) - University College London (completed - 2000)
MSc in Globalisation - University College London (completed - 2007)
MAS in Development and Cooperation - ETH Zurich (part time - deferred)
Since you asked.

:lol:

All those bits of paper hanging on your wall and you're dumber than a sack of hammers.

 

[gregstar]

he's still trying for his biro license.

that's the one he really wants.

7,098th time's a charm.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

In the real world outside of this Rugby League forum, peoples opinions of Rugby League are actually swayed by negative publicity and off field incidents.

It amazes me how many rock brains on this forum cannot comprehend that simple concept.

Lets take this El Diablo clown for example.

Everytime something goes wrong in league and the game attracts negative headlines, all he can do is google AFL articles from years back or post quotes of something someone said in 2007.

Rock brains? :lol:

You terminal dope.

The problem is that you don't understand the point he's making.

And your post is moffo-like in its stupidity. "the sky is falling, the sky is falling".

By the time the season starts in 2011, no one will give a rat's arse about Joel Monaghan. Just as they didn't give a rat's arse about John Hopoate the season after his incident.

And the incidents, they'll keep happening and pelicans like you will keep whining incessantly about how it's damaging the game when it does nothing of the sort. That's because the vast majority of people, given a short amount of time to think about it, realise that the game itself won't be changed because of the stupidity of one player.

Yep, weird isn't it, the game itself is the reason it has survived all those incidents. It survived the exodus to Union, it survived Hopoate, it survived the Dogs cheating, it'll survive the Storm cheating, it'll survive AFL's attempted incursion into its heartlands and it'll survive Monaghan. Hell, it survived Super League and everything after that is miniscule in comparison.

You know what you should do, piss off and follow something else. Go on, off you go and take that idiot Moffo with you.

You're depressing f**ks.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

he's still trying for his biro license.

that's the one he really wants.

7,098th time's a charm.

He's got lots of certificates.

:lol: