STG-Dragon
Juniors
- Messages
- 1,554
Oops clicked NRL by habit (over AFL
). This system the NRL uses is f**king sh*t house and I have thought this for ages!
![Smile :) :)](/data/emoji/263a.png)
and then there will be arguments that interstate teams who have a right to home games arent getting them.
there's no problem with how the home advantage is awarded under the mcintyre system.
the problem is that the play-off system itself isnt suited to a competition which operates such a long regular season. the system in use by the AFL would be more appropriate to take into account the performance over the longer regular season.
furthermore, people need to understand that these games are play-offs, not an extension of the regular season.....and there's always something riding on playoffs in any sport. otherwise the stakes wouldnt be so high. for the bottom seeds in the mcintyre 8, its elimination from the series. for the top seeds, its loss of home adv as a trade off for the double-chance. the top seeds cant have it all.
as i wrote in another thread, comparison with the system the AFL currently use is akin to comparing apples with oranges. that system segregates the teams into top 4 and bottom 4 - qualifying finalists & elimination finalists. this segregation doesnt occur in the mcintyre 8. the top 4 in the AFL actually play higher seeds in the 1st week than the top 4 in the mcintyre 8, and the bottom 4 in the AFL play lower seeds than the bottom 4 in the mcintyre 8. for this reason, it would be a serious fault in the AFL system if the lower seeds got the home game in wk 2.
The McIntyre system is flawed because it assumes the 8th placed team is weak. If the teams are fairly even, there's no real benefit to the top 4 teams.
That is a correct assumption if comparing 1st to 8th. What would you have us do? At the end of the regular season say "hmm, well the 8th side is better then 3rd so lets have 8th vs 2nd in week one".
Use AFL system
The fact that teams 1 though 8 can be so even just highlights even more why the AFL system is superior.
Teams 3 and 4 should never be eliminated in week 1 and teams 5 and 6 never deserve to be promoted with a week off.
If you come in the top 4, you have earnt your right to a 2nd bite and 2nd week homefinal if you lose in week 1.
If you finish in the lower half of the 8 you should play constant sudden death. Not like the Cowboys of 05 who did not deserve their 2nd chance.
Everyone knows the stakes with all games before kickoff. Theoretically the matchups should be more even meaning better games, unlike prior to the past 2 years where 8 v 1 was a massive yawn for everyone (other than fans of the minor premiers).
Clearly it also rewards teams better based on their end of season finish, as opposed to rewarding late form surge teams (outside top 4) as is very possible with the McIntyre.
If Melbourne had lost against Manly, we could have been eliminated had other results gone against us. Ludicrous.
Why is '4' your magic number?
What a load of crap - no-one outside the minor premiers deserve any advantage.
In the NRL system if Parra - from eighth - make the Grand Final then they will have had to beat 1,2 & 3 on the way through.
The AFL system rewards mediocrity because it has to. The NRL doesn't, because it doesn't have to.
Super 14 is even more brutal with the top-4 all sudden death format. no-one whinges that losers should be rewarded there either.
The top 4 are more deserving of advantages than the bottom 4, that's obvious.
Whoopdedoo about Parramatta and their situation. That has absolutely nothing to do with the merits or flaws of the McIntyre or any other system.
The McIntyre DOES reward mediocrity. Does it get any more mediocre than Cowboys 05 coming 5th and having 50 put on them yet being allowed to continue? Such a scenario can not and will not happen in a system where the bottom 4 are forced to play sudden death every week as should be their burden for missing the top 4!