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The big NRL divide

Discussion in 'NRL' started by davi, Apr 3, 2021.

  1. T-Boon

    T-Boon Coach

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    The Panthers are really just located in lower economic houso type area. I don't think they should get too much credit for junior developement.
     
  2. The_Frog

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    You don't know much about Penrith old mate.

    The Roosters and Storm have enjoyed huge success without being located in RL junior heartlands. It's far from all there is to it.
     
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  3. Perth Red

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    were doing a great job turning unwanted fringe or youth players into stars that other clubs then benefit from. A thank you wouldn’t go amiss.
     
  4. Perth Red

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    you’re mixing up league clubs using ill gotten gains to get kids playing the game, and nrl clubs who take the best of those kids at 16 and turn them into first graders. All nrl clubs do the latter. Not all nrl clubs have pokie revenue to do the former.
     
  5. soc123_au

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    If it wasn't for the former where would the latter come from? When it comes to leagues clubs you are like a rabid man hating lesbian that still wants to have a baby.

    Edit, you also know these merkins have pokies?

    [​IMG]
     
  6. Generalzod

    Generalzod Referee

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    Unwanted lol, Thanks for what giving league Grapple tackle, chicken wing, rolling pin, hip drop, crusher, crocodile rolls, cannon balls, ankle twists ...Yes Thank you...
     
  7. baselinepanther

    baselinepanther Juniors

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    no .. Helen Lovejoy
    Manly clubs phone in their development programs knowing they can just sit & wait for another development focused club to develop their next star for them. That alone is huge turnoff for fans seeing that happen. Its a big problem.

    Again , if your programs work is protected to an extent then clubs will put in more effort. Players stay at the club they started at or have been with for a while... longer. Fans are happier.
     
  8. The Mad Hatter

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    Footy is cyclical, the Brisbane are getting a taste of what it is like to be shithouse, just like everyone else has had to suffer over the years.
     
  9. AnonymousLurker

    AnonymousLurker Juniors

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    You want to protect junior development , easy go back to June 30 to allow the developing club more opportunity to retain their juniors rather than being bought out years in advance

    Example - Matt burton wouldn’t sign a contract with the dogs with whole season ahead and go through the current circus of the bulldogs trying to bully the panthers .
    Also I guarantee if there was June 30 deadline , panthers would have been able to hold onto him as he would have got more game time , maybe forced himself into the 17 and also seen that Barrett is a dud head coach

    Anyway , you can try make all these “systems “ in place but clubs are duds and deserve it ... how many players have the bulldogs bought last couple of years to play fullback or on fullback money
     
  10. Perth Red

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    no they don’t lol
    You dont need pokies to get kids playing the game, there’s plenty of sports with massive jnr bases and no pokie dens.
     
  11. simmo05

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    Pap left because teddy said he was staying with the tigers. Then he didn't
     
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  12. typicalfan

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    He was further down the pecking order at the Storm.
     
  13. soc123_au

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    I was responding to your post. I suggest you re read it.
     
  14. T.S Quint

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    Except the Storm.
     
  15. flippikat

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    Their time (of being crap) will come.

    Cam Smith retiring was a big step towards them coming "back to the pack", once Bellamy moves on then they'll dip even further.
     
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  16. Last Week

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    No, leave it as is. The only way things could get better is if Melbourne are getting pumped harder and more regularly than Sasha Grey (GOAT) used to.
     
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  17. yobbo84

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    Crap teams need to get better at recruitment and stop blaming everyone else. I know this, I grew up supporting Souths in the 90s.

    Stop overspending on average players. Invest in local talent and look for value buys.
     
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  18. Captain Apollo

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    There is a lot of anecdotal evidence I've heard that many junior clubs don't do much skill development work. Matty Johns has commented he had visited junior clubs and watched them train - they spent most of their time on wrestling.

    Look even at a player like Daniel Mortimer. Came upo through the Parramatta juniors system but could only throw a long pass on one side of his body (from right to left). If he needed to throw one top the other side, he used to turn his back to the defence so he was effectively doing a right to left pass. Now for a halfback, that's almost criminal that he could only pass to one side, and this was noticeable when he was at the Roosters too.
     
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  19. Vozzy

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    The problem is expectations. Other then Cotric the dogs have pretty much the same team as last year so how can expect better results straight away. But at least against Souths other then the score they were putting in and hitting hard. They just lacked polish and the score blew up towards the end. The thing is the shit teams blame attack and it's the defense they seem to never work on. Where the good teams score points cos they frustrate the shit teams by making it hard to score. Panthers are holding teams to like 0-2 tries per game, storm, roosters and souffs are doing this aswell.

    Shit teams are impatient and can't build pressure. The top 6 are in there own comp, then it seems the next 7 teams are the same and bottom 3 are completely bad. Games are only good when it's the top 6 playing each other.
     
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  20. super_coach

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    The salary cap disadvantages the weaker clubs more than the stronger club. The weaker clubs have to pay massive overs to attract their players so their cap has less buying power than the better sides. The weaker clubs also are a far less attractive proposition for third party deals.
    So the only answer is to go down Penriths path and build from the bottom up with a very strong junior platform. Trouble there a strong club comes in and grabs your talent once they are ripe for the picking, like Tedesco.
    Not sure what the answer is, you can’t blame players wanting to play for strong clubs, but we can’t keep going the way we are because we will end up with a five team comp. In a perfect world you need every team with a realistic chance to play finals football at the start of the year. That is far from the case now.
     

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