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coolsteve

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you guys are killing me. I would have called try for Austin but forward pass for Croker {just} {maybe} {possibly}
 

catweasel

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you guys are killing me. I would have called try for Austin but forward pass for Croker {just} {maybe} {possibly}

Correct Should've have been a try. Insufficient evidence to over rule the merkin of a referee. You're so cool Steve said Reimis.
 

Kilkenny

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On one angle it looked like the ball could have touched a blade of grass. Was there overwhelming evidence to overturn the on field decision. I don't think so but as we have seen this season the bunker do not seem to apply the overwhelming evidence mantra.
 

bileduct

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So in the game tonight there's 10 minutes to go and Raiders are staging a comeback at 12 - 24. Raiders put in a cross field kick, Greg Eden jumps at the ball and takes a swipe at it and deflects it forward into Brenko Lee who also then knocks it forward. However Lee is the one who gets called for the knock on. The replay is shown before the scrum packs clearly showing the knock on from Eden. Broncos still end up getting the scrum feed 10m out from their own line.

So what happened to bunker intervention?
 

AJB1102

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So in the game tonight there's 10 minutes to go and Raiders are staging a comeback at 12 - 24. Raiders put in a cross field kick, Greg Eden jumps at the ball and takes a swipe at it and deflects it forward into Brenko Lee who also then knocks it forward. However Lee is the one who gets called for the knock on. The replay is shown before the scrum packs clearly showing the knock on from Eden. Broncos still end up getting the scrum feed 10m out from their own line.

So what happened to bunker intervention?

Nothing happened. Nothing out of the ordinary anyway. They don't overrule ALL incorrect decisions, just some here and there.
 

bileduct

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Nothing happened. Nothing out of the ordinary anyway. They don't overrule ALL incorrect decisions, just some here and there.
I don't expect them to overrule ALL incorrect decisions, however the bunker can and does intervene to overturn a decision when play has stopped waiting for scrums to form.
 
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AJB1102

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I don't expect them to overrule ALL incorrect decisions, however the bunker can and does intervene to overturn a decision when play has stopped waiting for scrums to form.

Not all the time but. Its a f**king lucky dip.

They should have nothing to do with anything but ruling on tries when the onfield refs call for them.

They either double check all knock-ons or none. The idea that they grab a few here and there being okay is beyond stupid.
 

bileduct

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Not all the time but. Its a f**king lucky dip.

They should have nothing to do with anything but ruling on tries when the onfield refs call for them.

They either double check all knock-ons or none. The idea that they grab a few here and there being okay is beyond stupid.
Yeah, I agree with that.

I accept that there are going to be wrong calls in games. In fact, it's an unavoidable byproduct of having a fast flowing game. I just cannot understand how with four officials on the field supported by three officials in the bunker a rule like this can be applied so inconsistently. It really is a lucky dip like you said.
 

POPEYE

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Yeah, I agree with that.

I accept that there are going to be wrong calls in games. In fact, it's an unavoidable byproduct of having a fast flowing game. I just cannot understand how with four officials on the field supported by three officials in the bunker a rule like this can be applied so inconsistently. It really is a lucky dip like you said.

Depends on what is best not for the game being played but for the game itself, if inadequate coaching is allowed to triumph over adequate the game would become a free-for-all, maybe rules aren't being applied inconsistently at all . . . maybe an investigation of the subconscious is called for
 

Bronxnation

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So in the game tonight there's 10 minutes to go and Raiders are staging a comeback at 12 - 24. Raiders put in a cross field kick, Greg Eden jumps at the ball and takes a swipe at it and deflects it forward into Brenko Lee who also then knocks it forward. However Lee is the one who gets called for the knock on. The replay is shown before the scrum packs clearly showing the knock on from Eden. Broncos still end up getting the scrum feed 10m out from their own line.

So what happened to bunker intervention?

? Should of gone to spec savers? Ha? Even the commentators said it was a knock back from Eden....if he did knock it on it would have been overturned. lee was closer to the try line then Eden. I don't know how you knock it on and it have the ball go backwards
 

flamin

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So in the game tonight there's 10 minutes to go and Raiders are staging a comeback at 12 - 24. Raiders put in a cross field kick, Greg Eden jumps at the ball and takes a swipe at it and deflects it forward into Brenko Lee who also then knocks it forward. However Lee is the one who gets called for the knock on. The replay is shown before the scrum packs clearly showing the knock on from Eden. Broncos still end up getting the scrum feed 10m out from their own line.

So what happened to bunker intervention?
It was ruled as back off Eden and forward off Lee, otherwise would have been overturned no doubt.
 

bileduct

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? Should of gone to spec savers? Ha? Even the commentators said it was a knock back from Eden....
No they didn't.

if he did knock it on it
Which he did..

would have been overturned.
So the video ref does not make errors? Interesting.

lee was closer to the try line then Eden. I don't know how you knock it on and it have the ball go backwards
I'm not sure how you can swipe at the ball (towards your opponent) and deflect the ball forwards and it not be a knock on.
 
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I don't expect them to overrule ALL incorrect decisions, however the bunker can and does intervene to overturn a decision when play has stopped waiting for scrums to form.

You have identified the key problem with the bunker, and the video referee before it, namely the inconsistency in when they do intervene. As AJB1102 so rightly said "it is a lucky dip", and it is that inconsistency that can have a bearing on the result. If your team cop s few calls against it due to the Bunker intervening, whilst the opposition do not when similar situations arise it creates an unfair environment as both teams are not getting even treatment. That is why the Video Referee should have very clearly defined roles and leave the "run of play" stuff to the on field officials.

Had they done that in the first place, we would not have seen such a rise in players trying to milk penalties like we see now (generally speaking).
 

flamin

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Replay shows otherwise.
You can hear the ref say before the scrum packs down "check if it was a knock-on by Brisbane". The bunker checked it and ruled it wasn't, so it's not about intervention being a lucky dip in this case. Whether you want to debate the correctness of the call, that's a different story.
 

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