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Really? I don't see anywhere in that quote where he refers to them as being "child abusers..." - that is what you said. Or are you putting words into the Vice Admiral's mouth as well now?Jimbo said:Vice Admiral David Shackleton said:"In that instance they were, it doesn't appear that they were thrown in, certainly [they] were threatened to be thrown in, and this is a practice that these people do because they know Australian sailors will react to that."
Just to clarify, the Vice Admiral's definition of 'these people' is the same as mine
Willow said:btw, good to see you're still avoiding the key elements to the debate and still side stepping questions.
Another dodge.Jimbo said:Willow said:btw, good to see you're still avoiding the key elements to the debate and still side stepping questions.
I thought I'd have a go at arguing like you lefties ;-)
Actually, when I asked what you meant by 'these people' you replied:Jimbo said:My point was that they are all the same because they are trying to jump the queue, not that they are all necessarily child abusers, etc. But I'm guessing you knew that already...
Willow said:Actually, when I asked what you meant by 'these people' you replied:
"...'these people' are the boat people. Illegal immigrants. Child abusers. Scuttlers. Not the sort of people we want in this country."
All of which is a generalisation and taken straight out of John Howard's book of political rhetoric.
Another dodge.Jimbo said:Willow said:Actually, when I asked what you meant by 'these people' you replied:
"...'these people' are the boat people. Illegal immigrants. Child abusers. Scuttlers. Not the sort of people we want in this country."
All of which is a generalisation and taken straight out of John Howard's book of political rhetoric.
Boo Hoo.
Boat people are queue jumpers, and do not belong in this country.
End of story
Willow said:So you're declaring yourself the winner? :lol: :lol:
Jimbo said:Yes. Isn't that the lefty way?
I thought you only contributed to about 19 of those pages.Jimbo said:Whatever.
As far as I'm concerned, people who are prepared to risk their children's lives are not welcome in this country. And another 29 pages of bullsh*t are not going to change my mind.
Whatever.
As far as I'm concerned, people who are prepared to risk their children's lives are not welcome in this country. And another 29 pages of bullsh*t are not going to change my mind.
Tighthead said:What do you think of people who risk their children's live by keeping them in imminent danger?
Said without prejudice? Not likely.Jimbo said:Tighthead said:What do you think of people who risk their children's live by keeping them in imminent danger?
I think they should move out of Hurstville ASAP
General throws PM overboard
By Patrick Walters -- August 28, 2004
TWO high-ranking military officers have backed Mike Scrafton's account of the children overboard affair, revealing that the former defence bureaucrat told both of them in 2001 he had informed John Howard that the high-seas incident did not happen.