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The Dureau/Mullen combination

Yosh

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I think Scotty should be our future half. Like in all honesty I just thought he didnt play all that bad he wasnt crap, but yeah probably I am used to seeing our starting half dominate and yeah but he was pretty good. I liked how he tried that kick that went out on the full, it shows he is willing to try things to win. HOWEVER, all I was saying was he was a bit raw, but good to see Mullo playing well outside him.
 

sneaky_is_here

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Scotty did well last night because if it was Bailey there would have been more pressure on Mullo. And yes i do rate scott more than walsh.
 

chinorocks

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Until Walsh learns how to tackle Dureau has the spot all to himelf as far as I am concerned. I live in Brisbane so I never see reggies of flegg (or Toyota cup now) but Scotty has shown more in 2 games than Walsh showed last year. His kicking and passing games are much better and he is an infinately better defender. However I've only seen him play twice.
 

strewth_mate

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Walsh looked a bit bigger yesterday in prems, and he was committing himself in tackles - but often it seemed that despite sometimes making good contact he wouldn't bring the guy down. Seemed to frustrate him a couple of times but he kept at it. Like to see how he goes this week.
 

Johns Magic

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chinorocks said:
His kicking and passing games are much better and he is an infinately better defender. However I've only seen him play twice.

From what I've seen I'd rate Walsh's short passing game higher. He takes it to the line really well.
 

KniGhTs BaTTLeR

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Like Karma I think Walsh is our No 1. half but unlike Karma I rate Scotty alot higher then what he does. Sure all indicators lead to Walsh being the man but that doesn't mean Scotty cant overtake him. And I think Walsh is also 'solid, adequate', he is hardly a superstar.

Time will tell but remember Scotty is playing for his life while Walsh has a 3 year deal thats alot of incentive for him to keep Walsh out of the team.
 

Hanscholo

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A nice start for sure. I think Smith really pulled the wool over Henry's eyes tho. Dureau only making 6 tackles for the game looks to me like the Bailey selection mid week totally fooled Henry and he never reacted to it. Kudos to our coach.

I woulda expected Dureau to make 20 tackles at least if Henry had been on it, he is an overrated coach imo.

Walsh is a defensive liability and until he can hold his own there he wont be first choice over Dureau. Walsh has a deft touch short passing game but it isnt without its issues, he fades far too heavily when he passes and throws most of them forward. He also seems to need a lot of playing time with the guys in order for it to be successful, i sight his combination with Patterson which has been a long time developing.

Im just glad we have players of this calibre to hold a debate on. One thing is for sure, after watching Penrith, StGeorge and Co this week, we certainly dont need to worry about coming last.

I think the biggest highlight of the game was how well we controlled the ruck, and how effectively we ran traffic at Carney. 10 mins into the 2nd half Carney was 3rd on the Raiders tackle sheet with 18. A telling stat imo.
 

Whats Doing

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Hanscholo said:
Im just glad we have players of this calibre to hold a debate on. One thing is for sure, after watching Penrith, StGeorge and Co this week, we certainly dont need to worry about coming last.

Without looking at tonights game, Canberra, Penrith, Saints, Bulldogs and Tigers will be below us this year. Now just to need to catch another 3
 

macavity

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Whats Doing said:
Hanscholo said:
Im just glad we have players of this calibre to hold a debate on. One thing is for sure, after watching Penrith, StGeorge and Co this week, we certainly dont need to worry about coming last.

Without looking at tonights game, Canberra, Penrith, Saints, Bulldogs and Tigers will be below us this year. Now just to need to catch another 3

looks like Price might be out, if so add the Warriors to that list
 
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We will be a very tough side to beat but we will still lose plenty. That said IMO this is the most exciting side Newcastle has ever put together. The speed they play at is far beyond what i expected. Wes is going to have a massive year. I know I said that Luke MacDougall won't get a start this year but he should given Cooper's defensive lapses last week. Falling for the same play twice in five minutes! Manu V doesn't even do that! Come on Coops cos you are a deadset champ. Get it together mate. Aku to the wing maybe with Macca to left centre. The Fijian boys down the right side will be the crowd pleasing combo of the year.
 

Jono078

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I think it's hard to blame Vuna.

He is looking impressive this year, physically. Was hard to bring down.

MacDougall is the problem.

Left him all alone for the Raiders to target and I also thought MacDougall butchered Vuna's try, the ball was way above his head.
 

keeney

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He also butchered that pass to Bedsy and another deadset try when he dropped it cold.
 

voltron

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i saw the game last night
i was really impressed with Dureau's defense
actually i thought the whole team had stepped up in defence really well
our kick chase was great, especially seeing the whole team run down a few times
that was great

yeah, lets shift mcmanus into the centre's and uate on the wing
i want to see this man play!
after hearing great stuff about him for over a season now
 

keeney

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We have the third least Points against. OUr middle was tight and enthused, Doogs and Vuna are our major achilles heel right now.
 

Jono078

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keeney said:
We have the third least Points against. OUr middle was tight and enthused, Doogs and Vuna are our major achilles heel right now.

Speaking of stats...

Knights 1st in all run metres with 1402m. In 2nd place is the star studded Roosters pack with 1394m.

We've scored the 3rd most tries.

We're 3rd best when it comes to handling errors.

Matt Hilder 64 tackles, Houston 48 - top 2 in tackles - although I think nrl.com has those wrong..
 

macavity

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keeney said:
We have the third least Points against. OUr middle was tight and enthused, Doogs and Vuna are our major achilles heel right now.

Doogs makes Vuna look bad.

Jim to Centre, Uate to wing, Doogs to PL.

wont happen.... :(
 

sneaky_is_here

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keeney said:
We have the third least Points against. OUr middle was tight and enthused, Doogs and Vuna are our major achilles heel right now.

They can't do that this week otherwise Manly will go that way every time!
 

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