THE IDEAL NUMBER OF TEAMS IN THE NRL.

[CQLeaguey]

Funnily enough, it's only been Melbourne V Penrith twice, ever.. not sure how you get sick of those two, separately different story

Yep melbs and/or Penrith in every grand final since 2016 bar one. Grand final let alone finals. For me 2024 not that interesting. I mean good on them that is incredibly successful. But the worry is it’s not incredible, it’s becoming normal.

 

[Chins get the wins]

Yep melbs and/or Penrith in every grand final since 2016 bar one. Grand final let alone finals. For me 2024 not that interesting. I mean good on them that is incredibly successful. But the worry is it’s not incredible, it’s becoming normal.

Not incredible hahahaha pull ya head in

 

[MugaB]

Not incredible hahahaha pull ya head in

For a neutral to watch its boring, for a rugby league lover, it should be pinnacle that the best sides in the comp make it, colk wants a pass the flag comp, like afl

 

[Colk]

Those three teams only wn coz they are running their club better than most, Penrith were never one if the better run clubs, there was other clubs that were either winning (manly, bulldogs) that were more prominent in that period, success is cyclical, and the better run clubs just now how to stay relevant, culling the competition doesn't mean it will change that, it'll make it more evident that the Roosters and storm have a higher percentage of staying up there

By saying that success is definitely cyclical you are implying a passivity that isn’t there. It’s a physics term in essence - the idea that time isn’t an arrow for example. It’s like me saying that wealth is cyclical - unless you get lucky or you are completely negligent it’s not generally.

Also that’s why I said explicitly to get rid of the salary cap. If it’s all down well managed clubs then you shouldn’t prevent the wealthiest clubs from winning by virtue of a salary cap (if you actually believe it works that is)

 

[Colk]

For a neutral to watch its boring, for a rugby league lover, it should be pinnacle that the best sides in the comp make it, colk wants a pass the flag comp, like afl

It should be but it isn’t. As I said reduce the competition and you’ll get a better competition. You are not wasting spots or teams.

 

[Colk]

Yep melbs and/or Penrith in every grand final since 2016 bar one. Grand final let alone finals. For me 2024 not that interesting. I mean good on them that is incredibly successful. But the worry is it’s not incredible, it’s becoming normal.

Exactly.

 

[Colk]

So the dolphins have made the competition peak expansion.... colk ffs please

They have been in there for 2 years. Has the game got better in that time or worse? I couldn’t say that it has got better. Now take that one club and bring in three more without a seemingly good idea or plan to bring them in and then tell me how you think it is going to go.

 

[MugaB]

They have been in there for 2 years. Has the game got better in that time or worse? I couldn’t say that it has got better. Now take that one club and bring in three more without a seemingly good idea or plan to bring them in and then tell me how you think it is going to go.

Again it's your bias opinion that says you are thinking the drop in quality, you obviously want a game with less or no 6agains, back to the wrestling tactics, and as for expansion, there's no evidence more teams will create more blowouts, as you said before the 90s had teams that were getting blown away regardless of the amount of teams in the comp..
You want a even comp, well you need all clubs to be run well, that will never happen, there will always be a loser, always have a coach sacked for not reaching the tasks set out by their board, there will always be a wooden spooner, there will always be a club like the Roosters picking the eyes out of clubs like the Raiders, regardless of salary caps or not

 

[Colk]

Again it's your bias opinion that says you are thinking the drop in quality, you obviously want a game with less or no 6agains, back to the wrestling tactics, and as for expansion, there's no evidence more teams will create more blowouts, as you said before the 90s had teams that were getting blown away regardless of the amount of teams in the comp..
You want a even comp, well you need all clubs to be run well, that will never happen, there will always be a loser, always have a coach sacked for not reaching the tasks set out by their board, there will always be a wooden spooner, there will always be a club like the Roosters picking the eyes out of clubs like the Raiders, regardless of salary caps or not

You keep going around in circles mate because you keep missing the point. The point made wasn’t on an individual year etc, the point is you are seeing the same sides up the top every year and it has been the same way for the last twenty odd years. Again, though, if that’s what people want then that’s fine but if that is what people want then the competition needs to reduce and you need to get rid of the salary cap. There is no need for the size of the competition and you need to get rid of the deadwood. If they can’t compete, then they don’t compete.

Btw I think my side punches well above its weight. I don’t think we can ever win a competition under its current arrangement nor do I think any regional side can. That’s due to a couple of factors like demographics, decline in country football and third party dealings.

 

[reanimate]

Super Rugby was at its peak when it had less sides. They went downhill as soon as they started expanding. I would say the same with Rugby League in the 90’s and A-League about 10-15 years ago. AFL has also had trouble with the last two.

You will hit a point where expansion becomes a negative and actually damages the competition.

I wouldn’t say expansion on its own sent Super Rugby on a downhill spiral, how they went about it definitely contributed. The provincial/state-based model didn’t work very well for Australia, they would have been better off having a 2nd NSW team and potentially a 2nd QLD team before going to WA and Victoria. Then adding teams that no one really wanted or cared about, like the Japanese and Argentinian teams, greatly added to costs without generating much excitement or desire to see them among Australian Union fans.

There are always going to be bad teams, or teams like that feel like they’re never in with a chance, going to a 12 or 14 team comp isn’t going to change that.

People are eager for more NRL content, despite some teams turning in poor performances year-after-year, we just had a record season for viewership and attendance.

 

[MugaB]

I wouldn’t say expansion on its own sent Super Rugby on a downhill spiral, how they went about it definitely contributed. The provincial/state-based model didn’t work very well for Australia, they would have been better off having a 2nd NSW team and potentially a 2nd QLD team before going to WA and Victoria. Then adding teams that no one really wanted or cared about, like the Japanese and Argentinian teams, greatly added to costs without generating much excitement or desire to see them among Australian Union fans.

There are always going to be bad teams, or teams like that feel like they’re never in with a chance, going to a 12 or 14 team comp isn’t going to change that.

People are eager for more NRL content, despite some teams turning in poor performances year-after-year, we just had a record season for viewership and attendance.

Yes thus, talk some sense into colk, every comp has its losers... success is cyclical, right now it's Penriths, it used to be manly's from 2007-2011.
Salary cap is working for certain teams, like Penrith shedding players every year, but they still find a way to win games regardless, salary cap doesn't work when clubs get marquees on unders going to the likes of "city" clubs, especially when regional teams are willing to pay more to get or keep them, there in lies the issue regarding guys like Jack wighton to lol@souffs and Brandon Smith to rorters..
The competition is still competitive, but its the quality that's questioned, and as it depends on what metric you value a "quality game" close games don't mean it's automatically quality

 

[Trifili13]

Yes thus, talk some sense into colk, every comp has its losers... success is cyclical, right now it's Penriths, it used to be manly's from 2007-2011.
Salary cap is working for certain teams, like Penrith shedding players every year, but they still find a way to win games regardless, salary cap doesn't work when clubs get marquees on unders going to the likes of "city" clubs, especially when regional teams are willing to pay more to get or keep them, there in lies the issue regarding guys like Jack wighton to lol@souffs and Brandon Smith to rorters..
The competition is still competitive, but its the quality that's questioned, and as it depends on what metric you value a "quality game" close games don't mean it's automatically quality

Dragons vs Tigers with Klein or the pube collector as the referee provides a 'quality' LU gameday thread - quality is in the eye of the beholder.