The LJC\Stallion Thread

[batley]

So nine and Fox (who don’t have SOO rights) paid $1.8billion for 15 games? Seems unlikely to me.
Were the games in Sydney better atended before SL? I don’t personally know but I’m led to believe this isn’t the case.

From what I remember when I lived in Sydney, gates were not that great but the guys were playing for peanuts so finance wasn't a problem. Those playing to day are on big money and that's were Tv money comes in.Take that away and the consequences are frightening

 

[Whatwhere]

From what I remember when I lived in Sydney, gates were not that great but the guys were playing for peanuts so finance wasn't a problem. Those playing to day are on big money and that's were Tv money comes in.Take that away and the consequences are frightening

So you're saying it's the players that are the problem?

 

[batley]

So you're saying it's the players that are the problem?

Read my post again idiot.

 

[Whatwhere]

Read my post again idiot.

In the old days players played for very little and now they want to be appropriately remunerated for putting their bodies on the line for entertainment sake. And that's where all the money from these deals are being funnelled. I read it correctly.

Also, I'm coming more and more to the position that both you and Stallion are one and the same. As in the same sad sack sitting at his computer. Which makes sense as you're the only person who actively agrees with that persona and vice versa. Also, you're use of language is far too similar to be two different people.

 

[batley]

If you think that Stallion and I are one and the same, maybe you and Te Kaha are.I notice he has been laying low of late.What I was refering to in one of my previous posts was that low gates alone won't sustain the game.League players deserve every cent they earn.
Bye the way I'm in NZ and Stallion is in Aussie.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

I have answered this. The Bears fans as with all.fans will and should not accept a "demotion" . By being ousted though an unfair and totally flawed superleague agreement is not the right outcome for a longstanding and well supported club. 2nd rate doesn’t rate when you should be top flight. That's the key difference in your comparison you haven't yet grasped.

Why would they supposedly accept third teir RU? The Shute Shield was formerly the top teir of RU in the country. Why would they accept, not just a demoted club, but a comp that has been demoted two teirs?

 

[titoelcolombiano]

In the old days players played for very little and now they want to be appropriately remunerated for putting their bodies on the line for entertainment sake. And that's where all the money from these deals are being funnelled. I read it correctly.

Also, I'm coming more and more to the position that both you and Stallion are one and the same. As in the same sad sack sitting at his computer. Which makes sense as you're the only person who actively agrees with that persona and vice versa. Also, you're use of language is far too similar to be two different people.

You'll be able to test your theory. Tell Batley that the bears don't deserve to be in the NRL and see if he melts down

 

[Pommy]

From what I remember when I lived in Sydney, gates were not that great but the guys were playing for peanuts so finance wasn't a problem. Those playing to day are on big money and that's were Tv money comes in.Take that away and the consequences are frightening

That’s literally every pro sport in the world. EPL clubs might be charging £50 a ticket but when you’re paying players £300,000 a week it doesn’t even make a dent.

 

[Whatwhere]

If you think that Stallion and I are one and the same, maybe you and Te Kaha are.I notice he has been laying low of late.What I was refering to in one of my previous posts was that low gates alone won't sustain the game.League players deserve every cent they earn.
Bye the way I'm in NZ and Stallion is in Aussie.

Hmm...very defensive.

Your sentence structure is also nearly identical as is the poor use of language conventions. You attempt to push back suggesting both I and Te Kaha are the same person is also very telling. As for supposedly being in two different countries. Well, you are aware that you're using the internet? You could be posting from or at least claiming to be posting from Timbuktu if you really wanted to. The beauty of anonymity.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Remembering rugby union also has presence and access to the other schools. It's the absolute mortgage of total influence within elite private schools against rugby league which ultimately does rugby league no favours in the corporate or legislative world.This impacts rugby league negatively in the bigger scheme of things. (*ie: non recognition as an international sport/no govt funding/decisions for rl development in various countries etc) Rugby league has legitimately gained access access to general schooling as it has proven to. be an attractive and democratic*rules wise' inclusive sport to play . Rugby league has been accepted/popular by merit in such schools. It(Rugby league) has been accepted as popular culture whereas union has not however union still dominates through a biased sports policy in elite private schools. If rugby league was also allowed to.be played in elite private schools it would be ok. Unfortunately this is not the case in most (probably all)elite private achooling.

RL is bigger than it has ever been in Australia and is now the most watched sport on TV. We are doing ok.

 

[Whatwhere]

You'll be able to test your theory. Tell Batley that the bears don't deserve to be in the NRL and see if he melts down

They don't. They're a shit club run by a bunch of boof heads incapable of organising a piss up in a brewery.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

They don't. They're a shit club run by a bunch of boof heads incapable of organising a piss up in a brewery.

Brace yourself - Stallion is incoming - lol

 

[Stallion]

Why would they supposedly accept third teir RU? The Shute Shield was formerly the top teir of RU in the country. Why would they accept, not just a demoted club, but a comp that has been demoted two teirs?

In the Australian sports landscape union was not abd is still nor regarded as primetime product! Rugby league has already won the hearts and minds of the general public! most people identified with a Sydney top.flight club whereas this was not the case for union.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

In the Australian sports landscape union was not abd is still nor regarded as primetime product! Rugby league has already won the hearts and minds of the general public! most people identified with a Sydney top.flight club whereas this was not the case for union.

Agreed - so the bears demise is not behind the the rise of a few largish Shute Shield crowds...... 20 years later? And perhaps that the recent promotional work done by two RU enthusiasts that wanted to tap into an already existing heartland for RU in Northern Sydney? Glad we finally got there in the end.

 

[Stallion]

I get it. But you still refuse to answer the simple question. What power would Rugby have to impede your participation in any other sports outside of school? How could the prevent you playing whatever the hell you wanted outside of school hours?

That want the point at all! I'm stating the odd fact that for union at school I had to sign a special declaration form. This did not happen for the other sports I played at school. That's my whole point. Nothing else. Just that overbearing "big brother" attitude playing itself out in a public school environment.

 

[Stallion]

Agreed - so the bears demise is not behind the the rise of a few largish Shute Shield crowds...... 20 years later? And perhaps that the recent promotional work done by two RU enthusiasts that wanted to tap into an already existing heartland for RU in Northern Sydney? Glad we finally got there in the end.

No. The fact a genuine rugby league local derby is no more had created a scenario whereby other codes can capitalise on this .That's the summation that's valid. If the Bears were playing Manly on top flight rugby league then the local derby relevance appetite would have been satisfied for the general public. Now they are going to local union to satisfy this "derby" scenario.

 

[Whatwhere]

That want the point at all! I'm stating the odd fact that for union at school I had to sign a special declaration form. This did not happen for the other sports I played at school. That's my whole point. Nothing else. Just that overbearing "big brother" attitude playing itself out in a public school environment.

So f**king what. They had no way of enforcing any supposed declaration (not that I actually think this scenario ever actually played out and you're talking out of your arse) beyond that of the school environs. So how would it effective inhibit your choices? The answer is, it absolutely wouldn't have and therefore would have been functionally useless. Next.

 

[Stallion]

So f**king what. They had no way of enforcing any supposed declaration (not that I actually think this scenario ever actually played out and you're talking out of your arse) beyond that of the school environs. So how would it effective inhibit your choices? The answer is, it absolutely wouldn't have and therefore would have been functionally useless. Next.

You are a joke. The point being missed by you is that union is the sought of "sport" that does this tyoe of thing. No others did that when I played them that year (*including soccer) what a farcical response from a genuine union bigot! Lol

 

[Whatwhere]

You are a joke. What a farcical response! Lol

Funny how Batley seems to have logged off and you have logged on.

Farcical or factual? I would suggest that this declaration was a participation document more so than an attempt to somehow bind you to one sport as no school sporting competition actually has the ability to do such a thing.

 

[Pommy]

That want the point at all! I'm stating the odd fact that for union at school I had to sign a special declaration form. This did not happen for the other sports I played at school. That's my whole point. Nothing else. Just that overbearing "big brother" attitude playing itself out in a public school environment.

No you chose to sign that form. There was no requirement for you to do so at all. You’re tainted by union.