Refereeing The Magic Round sin bin directive

[Valheru]

These new rules are going to 100% ruin origin. Only once the inevitable ratings tank that it causes we might finally see some adjustment

It won't be enforced for origin or finals. Player welfare isn't such an issue to the NRL when their cash cows are at stake.

 

[_Johnsy]

ANZAC day was before the crackdown.

We have had an issue with this directive since it started, just like everyone else.

As I said mate, not every single Roosters fan.

Apologies re; dates of crackdown. I am wrong.

 

[Spanner in the works]

I'm a Roosters fan, I have no issue with it whatsoever. We need to be looking after our players. We also need to be looking after our game. Changing ingrained techniques to minimise the chance of brain injuries, therefore minimising the chance of court cases and compensation, via this new approach does both.

Separately, the fact is now that parents are better informed about brain injuries in respect to full contact sport, the less likely they are to let Little Johnny and Little Jane play the game. Wouldn't actually surprise me if player numbers have crashed across Australia...

 

[betcats]

Victor the inflictor will be average now the refs don’t let him hit people high. Why was the dope jumping into tackles? Second one should’ve been sent.

 

[colly]

Who did V'landys consult then? Why has this nor the process that the Commission went through to come up with this new edict been explained? These are serious questions you need to be asking yourself.

No one is saying that they want hitting people around the head to be made legal. The argument that most logical people are putting forward is that the punishment of sending players off and to the sin bin is detracting from the spectacle.

So you still think Vlandy runs the whole show, well what about these links that show decision are made by the Commision and then carried out by management.

How Rugby League is governed
Australian Rugby League Commission
Formed in 2012, the ARLC is the governing body for Rugby League in Australia. It sets the overall strategic direction for the game and works to ensure that the administration across all levels of Rugby League can meet the demands of being a modern, professional and well governed sport. It has responsibility for funding the game at all levels and helping the game to grow and foster both in Australia and internationally.
https://www.nrl.com/about-us/

What about the decision to bring in the Captains challenge- was it only Vlandy OR the Commission?
Answer-
Captain's Challenge
The Commission was also updated on proposed rule changes for the 2020 Telstra Premiership season designed to bring further innovation and excitement to the game.

A new "Captain's Challenge" system was provisionally endorsed by the Commission and will now progress to discussions with clubs, players and broadcast partners before a final decision on implementation in the 2020 Telstra Premiership. The NRL will trial the Captain's Challenge rule change at the All Stars game on February 22 and the Charity Shield game in Mudgee between the South Sydney Rabbitohs and the St George Illawarra Dragons on February 29.

What about the 18th man? Who did it, Vlandy alone or the Commission, the ABC has the answer.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-06/nrl-18th-player-substitute-foul-play-three-hias/100050184
The Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) has taken on board feedback from all 16 NRL clubs and the Rugby League Players Association (RLPA) before finalising its decision to introduce an 18th player to matchday squads.

I could go on and on about the Commission 'governing the game' with supporting links.

 

[souths_reborn]

So you still think Vlandy runs the whole show, well what about these links that show decision are made by the Commision and then carried out by management.

How Rugby League is governed
Australian Rugby League Commission
Formed in 2012, the ARLC is the governing body for Rugby League in Australia. It sets the overall strategic direction for the game and works to ensure that the administration across all levels of Rugby League can meet the demands of being a modern, professional and well governed sport. It has responsibility for funding the game at all levels and helping the game to grow and foster both in Australia and internationally.
https://www.nrl.com/about-us/

What about the decision to bring in the Captains challenge- was it only Vlandy OR the Commission?
Answer-
Captain's Challenge
The Commission was also updated on proposed rule changes for the 2020 Telstra Premiership season designed to bring further innovation and excitement to the game.

A new "Captain's Challenge" system was provisionally endorsed by the Commission and will now progress to discussions with clubs, players and broadcast partners before a final decision on implementation in the 2020 Telstra Premiership. The NRL will trial the Captain's Challenge rule change at the All Stars game on February 22 and the Charity Shield game in Mudgee between the South Sydney Rabbitohs and the St George Illawarra Dragons on February 29.

What about the 18th man? Who did it, Vlandy alone or the Commission, the ABC has the answer.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-06/nrl-18th-player-substitute-foul-play-three-hias/100050184
The Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) has taken on board feedback from all 16 NRL clubs and the Rugby League Players Association (RLPA) before finalising its decision to introduce an 18th player to matchday squads.

I could go on and on about the Commission 'governing the game' with supporting links.

Have a read of the links on NRL website, there is nothing on there which outlines the formal decision making process. All that is really divulged are the primary objectives of the Commission, a history behind the formation of the Commission and a list of the people on the Commission. I've got no doubt that the Commission will take feedback on other initiatives before acting, such as the ones you have listed about. However, that does not mean to say that V'landys' power is reduced; he may not have had any objections to the ideas, such as the Captain's Challenge and the 18th Man.

I've said it before and I will say it again, why has the rugby league community not being provided with any context behind the introduction of the new sin bin edict? Who was consulted? How did they reach the notion of using sin-bins and send-offs? Did they consider other alternatives? Why was there no implementation plan issued to clubs and the general public. These are all valid questions that need to be answered. If V'landys is getting abuse and death threats then he really only has himself to blame. That is generally what happens to dictators.

 

[souths_reborn]

So you still think Vlandy runs the whole show, well what about these links that show decision are made by the Commision and then carried out by management.

How Rugby League is governed
Australian Rugby League Commission
Formed in 2012, the ARLC is the governing body for Rugby League in Australia. It sets the overall strategic direction for the game and works to ensure that the administration across all levels of Rugby League can meet the demands of being a modern, professional and well governed sport. It has responsibility for funding the game at all levels and helping the game to grow and foster both in Australia and internationally.
https://www.nrl.com/about-us/

What about the decision to bring in the Captains challenge- was it only Vlandy OR the Commission?
Answer-
Captain's Challenge
The Commission was also updated on proposed rule changes for the 2020 Telstra Premiership season designed to bring further innovation and excitement to the game.

A new "Captain's Challenge" system was provisionally endorsed by the Commission and will now progress to discussions with clubs, players and broadcast partners before a final decision on implementation in the 2020 Telstra Premiership. The NRL will trial the Captain's Challenge rule change at the All Stars game on February 22 and the Charity Shield game in Mudgee between the South Sydney Rabbitohs and the St George Illawarra Dragons on February 29.

What about the 18th man? Who did it, Vlandy alone or the Commission, the ABC has the answer.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-06/nrl-18th-player-substitute-foul-play-three-hias/100050184
The Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) has taken on board feedback from all 16 NRL clubs and the Rugby League Players Association (RLPA) before finalising its decision to introduce an 18th player to matchday squads.

I could go on and on about the Commission 'governing the game' with supporting links.

Have a read of the links on NRL website, there is nothing on there which outlines the formal decision making process. All that is really divulged are the primary objectives of the Commission, a history behind the formation of the Commission and a list of the people on the Commission. I've got no doubt that the Commission will take feedback on other initiatives before acting, such as the ones you have listed about. However, that does not mean to say that V'landys' power is reduced; he may not have had any objections to the ideas, such as the Captain's Challenge and the 18th Man.

I've said it before and I will say it again, why has the rugby league community not being provided with any context behind the introduction of the new sin bin edict? Who was consulted? How did they reach the notion of using sin-bins and send-offs? Did they consider other alternatives? Why was there no implementation plan issued to clubs and the general public. These are all valid questions that need to be answered. If V'landys is getting abuse and death threats then he really only has himself to blame. That is generally what happens to dictators.

 

[Game_Breaker]

Are ratings really going to be impacted by this?
I don't see the rusted on supporters switching off

 

[souths_reborn]

So you still think Vlandy runs the whole show, well what about these links that show decision are made by the Commision and then carried out by management.

How Rugby League is governed
Australian Rugby League Commission
Formed in 2012, the ARLC is the governing body for Rugby League in Australia. It sets the overall strategic direction for the game and works to ensure that the administration across all levels of Rugby League can meet the demands of being a modern, professional and well governed sport. It has responsibility for funding the game at all levels and helping the game to grow and foster both in Australia and internationally.
https://www.nrl.com/about-us/

What about the decision to bring in the Captains challenge- was it only Vlandy OR the Commission?
Answer-
Captain's Challenge
The Commission was also updated on proposed rule changes for the 2020 Telstra Premiership season designed to bring further innovation and excitement to the game.

A new "Captain's Challenge" system was provisionally endorsed by the Commission and will now progress to discussions with clubs, players and broadcast partners before a final decision on implementation in the 2020 Telstra Premiership. The NRL will trial the Captain's Challenge rule change at the All Stars game on February 22 and the Charity Shield game in Mudgee between the South Sydney Rabbitohs and the St George Illawarra Dragons on February 29.

What about the 18th man? Who did it, Vlandy alone or the Commission, the ABC has the answer.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-06/nrl-18th-player-substitute-foul-play-three-hias/100050184
The Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) has taken on board feedback from all 16 NRL clubs and the Rugby League Players Association (RLPA) before finalising its decision to introduce an 18th player to matchday squads.

I could go on and on about the Commission 'governing the game' with supporting links.

Have a read of the links on NRL website, there is nothing on there which outlines the formal decision making process. All that is really divulged are the primary objectives of the Commission, a history behind the formation of the Commission and a list of the people on the Commission. I've got no doubt that the Commission will take feedback on other initiatives before acting, such as the ones you have listed about. However, that does not mean to say that V'landys' power is reduced; he may not have had any objections to the ideas, such as the Captain's Challenge and the 18th Man.

I've said it before and I will say it again, why has the rugby league community not being provided with any context behind the introduction of the new sin bin edict? Who was consulted? How did they reach the notion of using sin-bins and send-offs? Did they consider other alternatives? Why was there no implementation plan issued to clubs and the general public. These are all valid questions that need to be answered. If V'landys is getting abuse and death threats then he really only has himself to blame. That is generally what happens to dictators.

 

[some11]

Are ratings really going to be impacted by this?
I don't see the rusted on supporters switching off

All eyes are on the refs to see who the next one binned is and for what for.

Riveting stuff. Origin will be amazing.

 

[some11]

It won't be enforced for origin or finals. Player welfare isn't such an issue to the NRL when their cash cows are at stake.

I think you'll be unpleasantly surprised in two and a half weeks.

 

[Saxon]

The NRL is looking sillier and sillier by the day. Sin binning players for the most innocuous contact whilst ball runners are leading with elbows and forearms contacting defenders Heads regularly.

Excellent point. Why aren't they throwing the book at JWH?

 

[Mr Spock!]

I'm a Roosters fan, I have no issue with it whatsoever. We need to be looking after our players. We also need to be looking after our game. Changing ingrained techniques to minimise the chance of brain injuries, therefore minimising the chance of court cases and compensation, via this new approach does both.

Separately, the fact is now that parents are better informed about brain injuries in respect to full contact sport, the less likely they are to let Little Johnny and Little Jane play the game. Wouldn't actually surprise me if player numbers have crashed across Australia...

And if they were serious, there would be a mandatory 2 week time off for HIA and concussion like they do in Juniors.

 

[gerg]

The NRL is looking sillier and sillier by the day. Sin binning players for the most innocuous contact whilst ball runners are leading with elbows and forearms contacting defenders Heads regularly.

Totally agree. JWH has been getting away with it for years.

 

[Mr Spock!]

There needs to be something which doesn't reward diving.

Maybe something like mandatory time off the field (10 min? or more) with free interchange if you are down on a reportable offence. This is to include sore necks.

 

[blaza88z]

Obviously not in the mind of the referee who point him in the bin twice.

The second sin binning should have been the send off, since he didn't get the message the first time around.

Agree with that, it should be like how it is in the Soccer

1 yellow card = 10 in the bin (very aware a single yellow card in soccer isn't 10 minutes off the field)
2 yellow cards = gone for the game

I think we seen later in the game Radley getting one put on him as a result of him still being allowed to be in the game

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

All eyes are on the refs to see who the next one binned is and for what for.

Riveting stuff. Origin will be amazing.

This was in reply to a post about potential ratings affected. I don’t consider myself to represent everyone nor a majority. But I watched my team play this weekend, and part of the broncos game til I switched off. That’s it.

I’d normally watch more games per weekend if I’m free. Although some games don’t appeal to me considering the quality of the teams.

I had ample opportunity to watch all games this round.. but the main reason I haven’t is because of the sin bin rule, which infuriates me. It’s made me turn into Buzz Rothfield on the forums with my posts/rants.

So I’m just one fan. Maybe I’m the only one who’s turned off, maybe I’m one of many, hundreds, thousands, more....? Dunno.

And if they were serious, there would be a mandatory 2 week time off for HIA and concussion like they do in Juniors.

Bang on!

Player welfare - what a load of effing bollocks.

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

There needs to be something which doesn't reward diving.

Maybe something like mandatory time off the field (10 min? or more) with free interchange if you are down on a reportable offence. This is to include sore necks.

I agree with the idea here.

For the one game I watched this round, dragons Sharks, I must have heard the ref call “milking” at least 10 times. Why should milking be allowed to go unpunished?

The ref is expected to make interpretations on various circumstances in a game so why not give them the power to penalise a milking effort.

Would hopefully get rid of actors and players trying to take advantage.

Who knows, Vlandys makes up a new rule seemingly every week and his yes men in the ARLC approve it (heaven forbid someone would oppose him). So maybe this will come in next round.

Speaking of Vlandys rules, whatever happened to the 18th man needing to be an “emerging player”???? I thought it was a joke of a rule when it came out...

And now the joke is confirmed,, Daniel Alvaro trotted out as the 18th man for the dragons on Friday night... WTF???

The NRL is a circus, Vlandys is the ringmaster and the players are treated like dancing bears, whipped to the bone if they do any wrong, and made to perform to the ringmasters liking.

 

[Someguy]

There needs to be something which doesn't reward diving.

Maybe something like mandatory time off the field (10 min? or more) with free interchange if you are down on a reportable offence. This is to include sore necks.

the problem is unless play is stopped it just gets missed. Sualli showed his inexperience on a few occasions just playing on after being fouled. Also RTS copped one last week and chose to play on, was a clear cut sin bin and 2 week holiday for opposing player if he stayed down

 

[Evil Emperor Zurg]

Watching the bunnies panthers game. New directive has clearly been cancelled.
Good news.