The Pride thread 🌈

[IFR33K]

They were there to protest cos Latham was speaking ... im not sure of the details of exactly what they were saying against him - do you know? .... im no Latham fan, does your belief mean he has a right to be heard too?

If I’m not mistaken I believe Latham in the past has spoken up about transgenders iirc. I’m assuming some have taken offense to his comments.

protesting outside a church is ludicrous thou. Especially breaking a glass cross. They went there for a reaction and they got one. I’m not sure they’ll go there again.

 

[Gronk]

Latham is echoing the transphobia from the USA. There is no specific elements in the NSW curriculum that promotes, encourages or even remotely scratches the surface of anything trans, yet he’s still banging on with his fake outrage.

 

[Gronk]

^^^^ For context, read the Bill that he was seeking to have passed in NSW

A bill with no way

Mark Latham's anti-trans bill that seeks to prohibit NSW schools from teaching gender fluidity faces a constitutional hurdle.

lens.monash.edu

What is the anti-trans kids bill about?​

Latham’s Education Legislation Amendment (Parental Rights) Bill 2020 is all about denying that trans people are real. Latham told parliament that acknowledging the existence of gender diversity is one part of a “disease in most Western education systems” that he wants to “outlaw” in NSW.

The bill will effectively force all public and private schools to deny that trans people exist. It will be unlawful for schools to tell their students that there is a difference between chromosomal sex on the one hand, and gender expression on the other.

 

[Homo man69]

^^^^ For context, read the Bill that he was seeking to have passed in NSW

A bill with no way

Mark Latham's anti-trans bill that seeks to prohibit NSW schools from teaching gender fluidity faces a constitutional hurdle.

lens.monash.edu

What is the anti-trans kids bill about?​

Latham’s Education Legislation Amendment (Parental Rights) Bill 2020 is all about denying that trans people are real. Latham told parliament that acknowledging the existence of gender diversity is one part of a “disease in most Western education systems” that he wants to “outlaw” in NSW.

The bill will effectively force all public and private schools to deny that trans people exist. It will be unlawful for schools to tell their students that there is a difference between chromosomal sex on the one hand, and gender expression on the

It won't make public and private schools deny trans people exist? You're bending the truth so it aligns with your agenda. The bill means schools educate students about biological sex only. They won't be doing lessons about trans people not existing

 

[Homo man69]

If I’m not mistaken I believe Latham in the past has spoken up about transgenders iirc. I’m assuming some have taken offense to his comments.

protesting outside a church is ludicrous thou. Especially breaking a glass cross. They went there for a reaction and they got one. I’m not sure they’ll go there again.

Usually trans protesters only deal with a small amount of counter protesters. This time they bit off more than they could chew. Don't have much pity for them

 

[Gronk]

It won't make public and private schools deny trans people exist? You're bending the truth so it aligns with your agenda. The bill means schools educate students about biological sex only. They won't be doing lessons about trans people not existing

It didn’t pass. The bill was withdrawn. It’s not my agenda.

 

[the phantom menace]

And these are the harmful merkins that the Liberals would rather preference than the giraffe shooters...

 

[Poupou Escobar]

or thats trans kids should even be treated with respect.

It’s school ffs. No kids are treated with respect.

 

[hindy111]

Latham is echoing the transphobia from the USA. There is no specific elements in the NSW curriculum that promotes, encourages or even remotely scratches the surface of anything trans, yet he’s still banging on with his fake outrage.

Time and place. What did they think would happen going to Sth west Sydney and smashing a cross?
It was very silly and their own fault.

 

[Gronk]

Time and place. What did they think would happen going to Sth west Sydney and smashing a cross?
It was very silly and their own fault.

Source ? Not saying they didn’t, but from the reports I saw there were a dozen LGBTQ people representing transgender rights vs hundreds.

Two arrested after violent clashes outside Sydney church ahead of Mark Latham speech

Police say the riot squad and operational support were called in to disperse a confrontation between LGBTIQ+ activists and counter-protesters.

www.sbs.com.au

 

[Twizzle]

They were there to protest cos Latham was speaking ... im not sure of the details of exactly what they were saying against him - do you know? .... im no Latham fan, does your belief mean he has a right to be heard too?

No, I don't know either but Latham has made transphobic comments in the past so no wonder they are targeting him.

They both have a right to speak and be heard, everyone has a right to an opinion, not just the ones that people may agree with.

 

[Gronk]

They were there to protest cos Latham was speaking ... im not sure of the details of exactly what they were saying against him - do you know? .... im no Latham fan, does your belief mean he has a right to be heard too?

Hate speech vs freedom of speech. I think it’s pretty clear that the people of that parish were selected by Latham over, say some church in Turramurra, because of the powder keg potential a week out from the election. They were used as political pawns by Latham and they should have seen it coming.






Interestingly the Catholic weekly reckons that

The people who acted violently outside St Michael’s Belfield were not members of the local parish community,” the Archdiocese of Sydney’s spokesperson said.

Updated: Catholic Archdiocese of Sydney condemns violent protests at St Michael's, Belfield | The Catholic Weekly

Following violent protests at a political forum held at the parish, a spokesperson for the archdiocese said violence was incompatible with the Gospel

www.catholicweekly.com.au

 

[hindy111]

Source ? Not saying they didn’t, but from the reports I saw there were a dozen LGBTQ people representing transgender rights vs hundreds.

Two arrested after violent clashes outside Sydney church ahead of Mark Latham speech

Police say the riot squad and operational support were called in to disperse a confrontation between LGBTIQ+ activists and counter-protesters.

www.sbs.com.au

Well they are a minority group. I think they need to be carefull. People will give a bit but try and take to much and there will be backlash
We've come a long way which is great i feel bit small steps. People now are getting a bit sick of hearing it all now.

 

[Gronk]

Well they are a minority group. I think they need to be carefull. People will give a bit but try and take to much and there will be backlash
We've come a long way which is great i feel bit small steps. People now are getting a bit sick of hearing it all now.

Or merkins could just leave them alone.

 

[hindy111]

Or merkins could just leave them alone.

This is true. I am just saying it was always going to cause a stir in that area. And they'd have to of been silly to think something wild wasn't going to happen.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Interestingly the Catholic weekly reckons that

The people who acted violently outside St Michael’s Belfield were not members of the local parish community,” the Archdiocese of Sydney’s spokesperson said.

Of course they weren’t. Churchgoers don’t fight. They turn the other cheek. Violent acts in defence of Christianity aren’t performed by religious Christians, but instead by cultural/tribal Christians. People for whom religion and religious values are like an ethnic identity. Think non-observant Muslims.

 

[Twizzle]

People now are getting a bit sick of hearing it all now.

translated = you are becoming less tolerant

you don't speak for all "people"

 

[IFR33K]

Or merkins could just leave them alone.

Hard to be left alone when they’re protesting in places that will get a few people upset

 

[IFR33K]

translated = you are becoming less tolerant

you don't speak for all "people"

If a Muslim man came to you to preach, but you couldn’t be bothered hearing what he has to say, does it make you less tolerant? Or just genuinely not interested in his religion?

 

[Twizzle]

If a Muslim man came to you to preach, but you couldn’t be bothered hearing what he has to say, does it make you less tolerant? Or just genuinely not interested in his religion?

what's the difference ?