The product of League is being ruined by David Gallop and he has to go

[Perth Red]

And tbh, I don't give a rats about Darwin or Tasmania, no offence to anyone from there, but I can't see the NRL ever bothering, and I personally can't say much, if any, gain to be had by doing so, particularly Tas

The AFL may well be saying the same about Woolongong, and Townsville.

The whole argument is mute as there is no real definition of what being "National" means. For me it is having the sport represented on FTA across the country and being played regularly at the top level in the majority of the countries largest population centres. I'm sure others are using the exposure to a largest population grouping, as said all mute with no "official" definition. I still don't think you can come close to national with zero profile in 2 of the 5 biggest cities in the country.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

Well then, if exposure is the key then the ratings may as well be tossed out the window.

Why would exposure be the key component?

That makes absolutely no sense. Exposure does not equal popularity. For a sport or a competition to be even considered national, it has to have more than a token presence in the biggest markets.

AFL has nothing but a token presence in the biggest market it is in. It's ratings are abysmal and it averages 17k punters per week through the gate.

 

[The Tank]

I think AFL has a more national representation than NRL but I don't think any sport is national (actually A-League may be the most national - teams in most decent sized markets)

 

[adamkungl]

The AFL may well be saying the same about Woolongong, and Townsville.

I notice you conveniently left out Newcastle...and Wollongong has a larger population than both Hobart and Darwin....anyway, irrelevant. Its not as if every single place with a 5 figure population has to have a team. The fact is that AFL doesn't have a single team in a regional city, and thus can not claim to be a national sport any more than League.

 

[Cheezel]

Look, I try to be nice to newbies so I'll put this gently.

It takes someone with a special brand of stupid to spend an hour and a half working on a post, yet at the very beginning get your and you're confused.

And don't fret about the personal attacks, you earned it via stupidity.

As far as acting tough goes, are you on medication?

Lol...I have hit a nerve....don't worry just because I don't put a hundred posts in each day doesn't mean I am a newbie so don't be nice.

Keep the personal attacks coming...I know it's all you got to defect that fact that when it comes to Australian Sport....you have the IQ of a piegon!

Sometimes one needs to overuse a word to get the point across.?

Yes you do repeat yourself!

So what I said about Gallop and his abilities as the top man on the NRL aren't attacking the subject

The attacks on your stupidity were cream. Feel free to use them on an apple pie.[/quote] lol....you bring out all the one liners don't you :lol: Please tell me when your actually going to start telling me why the AFL isn't national! All this dancing around is starting to get boring.

There is no argument. There's a goose I'm discussing it with who seems to thing AFL is a national sport. .

Goose? Common Nuffy was better and yes your still in denial and haven't told me why the AFL is not National.

And being on live in all states mean nothing if no one watches in #1 and #3 state......

Yep keep on convincing yourself :lol: you don't get it do you.

The NRL covers about the same amount of people as the AFL, more if you include New Zealand.......

So national now means how many people watch the game.....you really have lost it! For an experienced poster like yourself i expected a better argument. Are you sure your mummy knows your on the computer all the time?

But no one here that I know of claims that the NRL is a truly antional competition........

Thank god now we are making some progress.

In direct competition with Cricket?

Are you serious?

The overlaps are not very large are they? A few weeks of the NRL and AFL and a few weeks of Super 14.........

Yes unless I was dreaming SA was here during the summer and pretty match tied up the media over that period. To be honest you don't hear much about the A-League unless you tune to fox sport news.

I blame everyone involved, including Gallop who was in it up to his eyeballs..........

Finally now that explains everything. You just don't like Gallop due to super league! We have made progress I am impressed. It's like i have to give you a few upper cuts before you spill out the truth.

Mancard...........

Yep keep those big word coming:crazy:

Yeah, as I said, you tell yourself whatever you need to, to get through the day.

Robbo.... LOL

Well I am glad you have back flipped on a few things all you got to do is admit that the AFL is a national sport (National doesn't mean Auckland or regonal NSW & QLD either Gerbil Farmer) and we can move on :shock:

 

[Cheezel]

Well then, if exposure is the key then the ratings may as well be tossed out the window.

Why would exposure be the key component?

That makes absolutely no sense. Exposure does not equal popularity. For a sport or a competition to be even considered national, it has to have more than a token presence in the biggest markets.

AFL has nothing but a token presence in the biggest market it is in. It's ratings are abysmal and it averages 17k punters per week through the gate.

It might be a token presence but how does that make it not National?

 

[Perth Red]

Over the last 10 years the Swans have averaged over 30,000, what wouldn't we give to have a team in a non RL city drawing that many?

 

[bartman]

f**k there's some lengthy quoting posts in this thread :lol:

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

Over the last 10 years the Swans have averaged over 30,000, what wouldn't we give to have a team in a non RL city drawing that many?

Averaged per game.

What have they averaged per week?

They're ok while they only have one game per fortnight. Wait and see what they average when the west sydney willy wankers hit town...

There will always be a small following for AFL in Sydney. Let's not forget it's a pretty big city and we're only talking about 100k per week watching the swans live and on tv.

That aint many...

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

f**k there's some lengthy quoting posts in this thread :lol:

Fun eh? lol

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

Lol...I have hit a nerve....don't worry just because I don't put a hundred posts in each day doesn't mean I am a newbie so don't be nice.

Yeah, you've hit a nerve... LOL

FMD what next, "Get a life" ?

You're a newbie.

Or what do the cool kids call them?

Noobs?

Keep the personal attacks coming...

ok

You have the intellectual capacity that one would expect of bone china. If you were any stupider you'd be locky #1.

I know it's all you got to defect that fact that when it comes to Australian Sport....you have the IQ of a piegon!

Maybe, but I know how to spell "Pidgeon"...

LOL

Always funny when someone derides someone else's intelligence by showing their own lack of it.

Yes you do repeat yourself!

Do I?

Do I?

lol....you bring out all the one liners don't you :lol: Please tell me when your actually going to start telling me why the AFL isn't national! All this dancing around is starting to get boring.

You could be told 100 times but it won't register.

Because you're thick.

piegon.... LOL

Goose? Common Nuffy was better and yes your still in denial and haven't told me why the AFL is not National.

Yeah, I have, you just can't see it.

Yep keep on convincing yourself :lol: you don't get it do you.

Didn't I say that?

Now you're just aping me... Smart move... your stuff is Craig McLaughlin...

So national now means how many people watch the game.....you really have lost it! For an experienced poster like yourself i expected a better argument. Are you sure your mummy knows your on the computer all the time?

Do we have to go through this every time?

It's you're, not your. You're hard to read. Wait, I'll make it so you can understand.. "Your hard to read".

And have some class, your argument is with me, not with anyone in my family.

Thank god now we are making some progress.

Avoid the point.

No one is claiming the NRL is truly national and AFL isn't national because it has no representation in 40% of the population.

Simple isn't it.

Yes unless I was dreaming SA was here during the summer and pretty match tied up the media over that period. To be honest you don't hear much about the A-League unless you tune to fox sport news.

You're stupid.

Soccer is not in competiton with Cricket.

Finally now that explains everything. You just don't like Gallop due to super league! We have made progress I am impressed. It's like i have to give you a few upper cuts before you spill out the truth.

Nah, I had been a supporter of Gallop, and if you want to troll through my 30,000 odd posts, you'll see that. But he's passed his use-by-date and has to go.

He's useless now and holds the game back. As does his employer.

We won't get rid of either for a while yet though.

Yep keep those big word coming:crazy:

Mancard is a big word?

Is piegon a big word too?

:lol:

Well I am glad you have back flipped on a few things all you got to do is admit that the AFL is a national sport (National doesn't mean Auckland or regonal NSW & QLD either Gerbil Farmer) and we can move on :shock:

We're back to you telling yourself whatever you need to in order to feel better about making a dick of yourself...

You had very little before and I think the tank is empty now...

Move along kid.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

It might be a token presence but how does that make it not National?

How many people live in Country NSW?

How many AFL teams are there in country NSW?

Do you know how many people live in country NSW?

There are more people in country NSW than in either SA or WA.

The AFL have teams in 5 capital cities plus Geelong.

NSW excluding Sydney is not represented.
Qld excluding Brisbane is not represented.
The NT is not represented.
The ACT is not represented.
Tasmania is not represented.
Hell, even Victorian country has minimal representation. One team in Geelong who play half their games in, wait for it, Melbourne.

 

[$$Poor Boy Blues$$]

How many people live in Country NSW?

How many AFL teams are there in country NSW?

Do you know how many people live in country NSW?

There are more people in country NSW than in either SA or WA.

The AFL have teams in 5 capital cities plus Geelong.

NSW excluding Sydney is not represented.
Qld excluding Brisbane is not represented.
The NT is not represented.
The ACT is not represented.
Tasmania is not represented.
Hell, even Victorian country has minimal representation. One team in Geelong who play half their games in, wait for it, Melbourne.

u really get involved in these p!ssing up the wall contentests...who cares, guys

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

u really get involved in these p!ssing up the wall contentests...who cares, guys

So to show you don't care, you first read, then quote, then reply.

 

[Perth Red]

Averaged per game.

What have they averaged per week?

They're ok while they only have one game per fortnight. Wait and see what they average when the west sydney willy wankers hit town...

There will always be a small following for AFL in Sydney. Let's not forget it's a pretty big city and we're only talking about 100k per week watching the swans live and on tv.

That aint many...

So you agree that they do actually have a fan base that majority of RL clubs would die for?

Thank frik that they don't have a big TV viewing audience as I say! Doesn't mean that they can't say that their code has a much bigger profile and presence in non traditional cities than RL does. We have one, Melbourne where there is no FTA, low crowds (in comparison) and minimal jnrs and amateurs playing the game in comparison.

I hope one day we are as succesful at spreading our game as the AFL has been, hopefully that day will be soon if we ever get the $'s the sport is worth.

 

[Cheezel]

Yeah, you've hit a nerve... LOL

FMD what next, "Get a life" ?

You're a newbie.

Or what do the cool kids call them?

Noobs?

ok

You have the intellectual capacity that one would expect of bone china. If you were any stupider you'd be locky #1..

:lol: Embarrassing, give yourself an uppercut!

Maybe, but I know how to spell "Pidgeon"...

LOL

Always funny when someone derides someone else's intelligence by showing their own lack of it

:lol: it just gets worse....all you have now is to pick up on spelling mistakes. Talk about paraniod "piegon"

Now you're just aping me... Smart move... your stuff is Craig McLaughlin.....

You like Craig McLaughlin maybe Bros is more your style

Do we have to go through this every time?.....

Yes

It's you're, not your. You're hard to read. Wait, I'll make it so you can understand.. "Your hard to read".?.....

Now your the grammer king :lol: is this the HSC? Are you marking my posts?

And have some class, your argument is with me, not with anyone in my family.".?.....

Class? nuffy, noobs ....lol...... I think you should go back to class before you get in trouble.

No one is claiming the NRL is truly national and AFL isn't national because it has no representation in 40% of the population.".?.....

We are getting very close now. If we can get past this fasination you have with population maybe we can move on!

Soccer is not in competiton with Cricket..".?.....

lol....keep on embarrassing yourself!

Nah, I had been a supporter of Gallop, and if you want to troll through my 30,000 odd posts, you'll see that. But he's passed his use-by-date and has to go...".?.....

We won't get rid of either for a while yet though....".?.....

Correct....quick pull out the Mancard

You had very little before and I think the tank is empty now...

Move along kid.

Each time you reply to my post we make a little more progress. Antichrist I know you can do it! Why do you think the AFL is not a national game? If you asked the local punter in the street if the AFL has a national game. The answer would be yes. Even all the idiots in the media refer to the AFL as a national game. All you can do is bring out the old population line :crazy:.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

So you agree that they do actually have a fan base that majority of RL clubs would die for?

Yeah, I'm sure every Rugby League club in Sydney wished they were the only team in the largest city in the only country the spot is played at professional level.

Thank frik that they don't have a big TV viewing audience as I say! Doesn't mean that they can't say that their code has a much bigger profile and presence in non traditional cities than RL does. We have one, Melbourne where there is no FTA, low crowds (in comparison) and minimal jnrs and amateurs playing the game in comparison.

You can wank on about profile all you like, that doesn't make it popular.

And don't overestimate Sydney AFL, tke out the Swans and it's abysmal.

I hope one day we are as succesful at spreading our game as the AFL has been, hopefully that day will be soon if we ever get the $'s the sport is worth.

What, spreading out so far as to not get past the shores of one country?

They haven't moved an inch in 100 years. (Australian Football that is)

 

[adamkungl]

Each time you reply to my post we make a little more progress. Antichrist I know you can do it! Why do you think the AFL is not a national game? If you asked the local punter in the street if the AFL has a national game. The answer would be yes. Even all the idiots in the media refer to the AFL as a national game. All you can do is bring out the old population line :crazy:.

So, what DOES make AFL a national game? I mean, other than Demetriou and Victorian propaganda. It certainly isn't population. It isn't even dots on a map. When you actually look at it, they come off worse in both. It's pure propaganda, and you know it.

 

[Cheezel]

So, what DOES make AFL a national game? .

The fact that the game has teams in the 5 major capital cities. Chuck in Hobart "like the Central Coast for league" who are AFL mad and have games played there throughout the year. Have wall to wall media coverage across Australia. That leaves NT and ACT with a small AFL presence.

As much as i can't stand AFL they have a national game hence why they have a better TV deal then the NRL.

As I have mentioned, put a League team in SA and WA and we will also have a national competition.

I mean, other than Demetriou and Victorian propaganda. It certainly isn't population. It isn't even dots on a map. When you actually look at it, they come off worse in both. It's pure propaganda, and you know it.

Maybe it is Propaganda! But if I pull out a map of Australia and put dots on the map it starts to look pretty national to me. Do the same with NRL and we have the EastCoast all tied up.

 

[Rastus_in_Melbourne]

While the AFL is busying putting teams in capital cities in the past 2 decades, rugby league is still busying deciding if they should expand to err.......Gosford.