The Rumours Thread

[dungay dragon]

Reported on radio by Peter Peters, but they want 50k extra for Suli to match the 50k they paid for Saab.

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[dungay dragon]

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Thought the Kikau tale was interesting..DD is right , we need to land a big fish...instead of the carp we are netting..hopefully/perhaps he is the one...

 

[redandwhite4evr]

We are on the rebuild so 22 probably won’t be spectacular either no matter who coaches us but 2023 and beyond is where we need to look. Sims won’t be setting the world on fire then I’m sure. We have Sua sorted, so another good dynamic back rower and we are looking a lot better.

While I'm not suggesting any coincidence with the Sims announcement, I was quite impressed with Billy Burns last night. He's nowhere near the finished product but his defence and work rate seem to be improving each time he plays and he was the forward most likely to crack the line last night- got one magic ball away (to a winger I think) while falling. He's got the height and build to be a gun, edge backrower- just needs the finishing touches.

 

[redv13]

Burns has finished the season well in a very ordinary pack. Good off season and some muscle coming into the squad and 2022 could be a decent year for the young fella

 

[blacksafake]

While I'm not suggesting any coincidence with the Sims announcement, I was quite impressed with Billy Burns last night. He's nowhere near the finished product but his defence and work rate seem to be improving each time he plays and he was the forward most likely to crack the line last night- got one magic ball away (to a winger I think) while falling. He's got the height and build to be a gun, edge backrower- just needs the finishing touches.

Have liked him since he’s joined us, there’s a footballer there & should only get better. IF our forwards can get some momentum going next year he,Su’a & the youngsters will cause trouble.

 

[Forbes Creek Dragons]

While I'm not suggesting any coincidence with the Sims announcement, I was quite impressed with Billy Burns last night. He's nowhere near the finished product but his defence and work rate seem to be improving each time he plays and he was the forward most likely to crack the line last night- got one magic ball away (to a winger I think) while falling. He's got the height and build to be a gun, edge backrower- just needs the finishing touches.

Im a big fan, he was a mid season signing so get him there all pre season and starting there round 1 to build some combos and I can see him being very dangerous which in my opinion is extremely important to our side. With the side we are building it seems to be a very attack based side, for way too long well into the Mary and Price era we have been a team that has picked players to "Not lose the game" as opposed to players to actually win the game. Hook is not exempt from this criticism at all with his "safe" selections but with the year we had 1 year is way too early to completely write him off just yet.
While I still think next year we are still a work in progress I do believe Amone in combination with Hunt will add a lot more spark than Norman in attack. With his footwork and running game he could cause some issues if he has some dangerous back rowers and centres outside him running good lines at speed.

 

[St Tangles]

I wouldn't be breaking the bank for Suli
Manly want him to go as much as we want him
It's all about salary cap balancing he hasn't done anything wrong at Manly they are paying 550K for their 3rd choice centre

 

[redandwhite4evr]

I wouldn't be breaking the bank for Suli
Manly want him to go as much as we want him
It's all about salary cap balancing he hasn't done anything wrong at Manly they are paying 550K for their 3rd choice centre

I respectfully disagree that Manly want him to go as much as we want him. This is our second go at him and nothing much has changed. Manly may be paying $550K for their third choice centre but, as I said, he's big enough and mean enough to be be converted to a successful backrower cum centre and Manly have at least three backrowers coming off contract at the end of this year. This deal was touted months ago but is still dragging on- mainly because we now know Bird is too slow for the centres and there is no one in the club remotely near Suli's standard.

Of course when and if the deal gets done, we'll never know the details- but I'd rather be in Manly's position than ours.

 

[Crush]

The Truth is he has been one our better meter eaters

So with guys like this do just accept that they are going to miss half the season every year through suspensions and take what you can get from them?
After he serves his 6 weeks it’ll be only a matter of weeks before he goes for another suspension, it’s inevitable.

 

[Gareth67]

I would like Suli at the Dragons as he would certainly add plenty of size and strength to our back line , however if Manly wish to play games in releasing him then I would give the bloke a miss and go after someone else .

 

[St Tangles]

I respectfully disagree that Manly want him to go as much as we want him. This is our second go at him and nothing much has changed. Manly may be paying $550K for their third choice centre but, as I said, he's big enough and mean enough to be be converted to a successful backrower cum centre and Manly have at least three backrowers coming off contract at the end of this year. This deal was touted months ago but is still dragging on- mainly because we now know Bird is too slow for the centres and there is no one in the club remotely near Suli's standard.

Of course when and if the deal gets done, we'll never know the details- but I'd rather be in Manly's position than ours.

I'm happy to disagree and respect your opinion
I think they want him off the books as they have a few other targets
Agree that we won't know all the details and they are often reported wrong anyway

 

[Forbes Creek Dragons]

I would like Suli at the Dragons as he would certainly add plenty of size and strength to our back line , however if Manly wish to play games in releasing him then I would give the bloke a miss and go after someone else .

It is vastly different to the Saab situation. He was a player they clearly head hunted while still well under contract that we wanted to keep. Suli is a player they have shopped around they are trying to get off their books. But we played the game with them so they will play it back. I’d call their bluff personally and put the ball back in their court.

 

[Gareth67]

It is vastly different to the Saab situation. He was a player they clearly head hunted while still well under contract that we wanted to keep. Suli is a player they have shopped around they are trying to get off their books. But we played the game with them so they will play it back. I’d call their bluff personally and put the ball back in their court.

Exactly FCD , Dessie went after Saab with a vengeance , he wanted him and regardless of what the young bloke said about the ‘ gong being too far to travel to etc. etc. you can be sure that Des fed him that rubbish to pass on to the media .

Another sad sob story , another instance of Hasler interfering with other clubs rosters as he did when he first went to the Bulldogs.

But if the information is correct that the Manly want money for the release then as I said previously , they can hang on to Suli .

 

[Trifili13]

It is vastly different to the Saab situation. He was a player they clearly head hunted while still well under contract that we wanted to keep. Suli is a player they have shopped around they are trying to get off their books. But we played the game with them so they will play it back. I’d call their bluff personally and put the ball back in their court.

Agree, I think Manly have all their eggs in the DCE and Trbojevic basket which would be soaking up about one third of their cap, and with a couple of young up and comers like Schuster and Olakautu that they will need to upgrade, they can't afford to have a $550k player on the bench.

Manly is just trying to get Saab's money back by charging us a fee for Suli.

 

[Forbes Creek Dragons]

Agree, I think Manly have all their eggs in the DCE and Trbojevic basket which would be soaking up about one third of their cap, and with a couple of young up and comers like Schuster and Olakautu that they will need to upgrade, they can't afford to have a $550k player on the bench.

Manly is just trying to get Saab's money back by charging us a fee for Suli.

Yeah and we already have Bird, Max Feagai and Ramsey who could all potentially play or be turned into centres with some work over the off season. If he was a block busting prop I’d consider swallowing my pride and paying up but I wouldn’t play this game for someone who has proven to be as inconsistent as he has. Don’t get me wrong I’d take him but wouldn’t pay overs.

 

[RedVee]

It’s a test for Hooks Moneyball tactics

 

[OneEyedDragon]

I'm happy to disagree and respect your opinion
I think they want him off the books as they have a few other targets
Agree that we won't know all the details and they are often reported wrong anyway

I thought that Suli was keen on a move away from Manly as he was 3rd choice centre and couldn't crack it for FG. I believe he was looking for a club where he thought he would play regular FG. Dragons fit the bill. Manly may be playing financial funny buggers, but I think Suli does want to move.

 

[BIG RIG]

I am convinced that nothing will change next year and we will be in the same situation in exactly 1 year time

 

[OneEyedDragon]

I am convinced that nothing will change next year and we will be in the same situation in exactly 1 year time

That's not a Rumour, that's a Negative ONLY post! Enjoy the off season, and I desperately hope you are wrong. Or should I say there is a Rumour that you will be wrong.

 

[mickeylane]

You can add Ryley Jacks from Storm rumor as well on an incentive-based contract to cover in the halves ..Id say a Adam Clune type role...