The Rumours Thread

[Dragon David]

My thoughts are why not bring in a draft just like the AFL does, seems to work for them.

I agree that there should be something that would help to even out the strength or weakness of teams and try to get some balance enabling all teams to be much the "same" but results are based on the fitness, finesse and game plans to beat the opposition. I am sure that they tried to bring in a draft system in the past viz.
"The draft in rugby league was abolished. Terry Hill got his wish and spent the next few seasons at the Magpies before moving to Manly as an uncontracted player ..."

Some people have thought of a point system to be the best way - someone here might be able to explain this?

 

[justadragon]

I agree that there should be something that would help to even out the strength or weakness of teams and try to get some balance enabling all teams to be much the "same" but results are based on the fitness, finesse and game plans to beat the opposition. I am sure that they tried to bring in a draft system in the past viz.
"The draft in rugby league was abolished. Terry Hill got his wish and spent the next few seasons at the Magpies before moving to Manly as an uncontracted player ..."

Some people have thought of a point system to be the best way - someone here might be able to explain this?

Yeah agree Dave, if you look at the AFL you will see different teams in the 8 every year, plus I also think it builds excitement and hope for the clubs and supporters, anything really that will level the playing field will do me and not that rubbish that I read about a week ago discussing development players and debuts of some clubs, thats just ridiculous.

 

[BLM01]

Mate, if we had 50% of his strike rate - we’d be champions. As much as it pains me say it - the Storm take their professional to another level . What we have is park football attitude with a bunch of guys signed up because they are cheap first and foremost!!!

Behind the scenes rich ownership money NEWS Limited and the influence who had a big say in how the NRL was run to ensure their survival in the early days went along way to where they are today, which is a now well run organisation after the cheating scandals.
Bellamy no doubt is a coaching legend but their is only 1 of him to go round to 16 clubs.
Dragons have tried in the past to poach him...he always stayed at Melbourne

I agree with except for the purchase of Widdop and Hunt between 2011-2020 we had that cheap and or loyal stalwart player purchase mentality
I believe we are trying and are starting to right the wrongs of the Price / McGregor / Millward eras
Still a ways to go

 

[possm]

A Draft is a leveler the NRL is missing. This along with some stricter rules being introduced.

Surely, if an AFL draft is not a restraint of trade, then an NRL draft should be judged accordingly.

 

[AyiosYiorgos]

A Draft is a leveler the NRL is missing. This along with some stricter rules being introduced.

Surely, if an AFL draft is not a restraint of trade, then an NRL draft should be judged accordingly.

If an AFL player challenges the Draft, they will win, players and their union have an understanding with the AFL that they will not challenge it

 

[possm]

I doubt this would make any difference to the result of a challenge. If an entity challenges the validity of a draft in the NRL then the judgment would apply to both codes providing the NRL closely follow the AFL system.

Given the circumstances, the defense of such a draft would have both the NRL and AFL jointly defending the policy in court. I'd say, at worst there may be some slight changes to the current AFL draft policy as a result.

 

[Trifili13]

It's what AY said above, no player or club has challenged it in the AFL. As soon as someone does, it will be gonsky due to restraint of trade like it was in the NRL. Sports with salary caps are mostly in American sports but all have a draft attached to them. That way you don't have the BS about players happy to play for unders for the top teams who end up with a squad valued at 1 to 2 million above the salary cap while most of the bottom teams (who are forced to spend 95% of their salary cap like everyone) yet have to pay overs and end up with a squad that in reality is only worth 7 to 8 million.

 

[BLM01]

I doubt this would make any difference to the result of a challenge. If an entity challenges the validity of a draft in the NRL then the judgment would apply to both codes providing the NRL closely follow the AFL system.

Given the circumstances, the defense of such a draft would have both the NRL and AFL jointly defending the policy in court. I'd say, at worst there may be some slight changes to the current AFL draft policy as a result.

The draft IN NSW (ARL? or NRL) has been challenged in the courts and lost
Move on

 

[denis preston]

Yes lets move on to actual rumours .

 

[BLM01]

Oh no..speaking of needing hookers I see Josh McCrone has been signed up for the Dragons again!

But this time its Temora

 

[Dragonslayer]

AFL has 2 systems, a draft period and a trade period.

The 'draft' tends to focus in jr players a club level, who get selected in rep games and then get invited to 'camps' to prove their skills under different criteria. As far as I am aware they aren't contracted to any AFL club except under certain rules such as 'father/son'.

The 'trade' period is the interesting one. All clubs have to nominate the full squad by a certain date. Players gave to nominate themselves for the trade and usually they fall into 3 catagories:
1. Players with no contract - a few of these maybe playing in 'reserve grade' competitions.
2. Players who are not offered a new contract.
3. Players who are 'unhappy' at their present club.
Again, as far as i'm aware they nominate their club of choice and (a) if another club is willing to pick them up, and (b) their current club wants to keep them but must match the 'trade offer' to do so.

As you can see there is no 'restraint of trade' as the player is the one doing the business not the club.
We basically have the same system in the NRL with players who are off contract (ie: Sims) can start negotiating with clubs before his current contract expires. The only difference is that its not in a defined window like the AFL system.

 

[Gourley's Socks]

One thing that would even out the teams would be an impartial application of the judicial process.

It's no coincidence that the "glamour clubs" are glamour clubs because they can keep their top 17 on the park more often than many others. And for this, they can thank a judiciary that, most kindly, is wildly inconsistent.

 

[Dragon David]

One thing that would even out the teams would be an impartial application of the judicial process.

It's no coincidence that the "glamour clubs" are glamour clubs because they can keep their top 17 on the park more often than many others. And for this, they can thank a judiciary that, most kindly, is wildly inconsistent.

Not only can they attract the better players, they can attract better outcomes in hearings and therefore maintain a winning sequence.

 

[RedVee_8]

This comment will probably get a lot of heat but I think the Steelers emblem should be on the sleeve of our jersey (ala West's) or have both original emblems st George Dragonslayers and Steelers logo on the sleeves and St George Illawarra emblem on the front keep all parties happy.

Maybe because the Steelers are no part of the JV

 

[thebigredv]

Su'a my new poster boy.

 

[Gardenia]

Behind the scenes rich ownership money NEWS Limited and the influence who had a big say in how the NRL was run to ensure their survival in the early days went along way to where they are today, which is a now well run organisation after the cheating scandals.
Bellamy no doubt is a coaching legend but their is only 1 of him to go round to 16 clubs.
Dragons have tried in the past to poach him...he always stayed at Melbourne

I agree with except for the purchase of Widdop and Hunt between 2011-2020 we had that cheap and or loyal stalwart player purchase mentality
I believe we are trying and are starting to right the wrongs of the Price / McGregor / Millward eras
Still a ways to go

Which reminds me - we sent Widdop home on a plane when he came back asking for his job back. He was class and I can never understand why they did this.

 

[VodkaSaint]

Which reminds me - we sent Widdop home on a plane when he came back asking for his job back. He was class and I can never understand why they did this.

his shoulder would not have stood up to the nrl standard

 

[BLM01]

Which reminds me - we sent Widdop home on a plane when he came back asking for his job back. He was class and I can never understand why they did this.

More importantly why did he leave in the first place.?
2 should recos and age. Right decision. No on else in the NRL said hi either

 

[BLM01]

Poor Brownie will have nightmares and 70 odd scorelines against the Storm
In saying that we play them after the Tigers

 

[Dragon David]

Poor Brownie will have nightmares and 70 odd scorelines against the Storm
In saying that we play them after the Tigers

I am sure that there are lots of other teams saying that they were lucky it wasn't them that got thrashed to 70. I'm glad it wasn't us but we do have to play them and we know that they will be hard to play against.