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The Steve Kearney Thread

Poupou Escobar

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You`ve said some pretty stupid things on this forum, but this is the stupidest. What players do we have in the side now who were there in 2005? Um .... Hindmarsh. Burt. Anyone else? A two man revolution. :lol:

Smith and Moimoi were here as well. Plenty of the players from 2005 were still here through the Hagan era as well.

This group of players has evolved since 2005 to include a lot of players that were here for the ousting of one coach or another - there were rumours that Mateo wasn't happy with Anderson and so on. Hayne has been in first grade since '06. There's even a few who arrived in 2010 that might not have liked Anderson and now have a problem with Kearney.
 

Maroubra Eel

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There is definitely a big problem somewhere.
It evident by the way the players have dogged it the last 2 weeks.

I just hope someone can get to the bottom of it.
 

Avenger

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If we were to sack Kearney the best credentialed coach to replace him would be Ricky Stuart. I don't rate Ricky but at least he would attract some players to our squad.
 

Suitman

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If we were to sack Kearney the best credentialed coach to replace him would be Ricky Stuart. I don't rate Ricky but at least he would attract some players to our squad.

.........and possibly leave us in the same mess as he left the Roosters and Sharks?

No thanks.

Suity
 

Eels Dude

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Stuart wasn't a terrible coach. He did well at the Roosters with 3 grand finals in a row and a premiership. It was inevitable they weren't going to sustain that because like most teams after a years of success your team is torn apart by the salary cap. He did a reasonable job at Cronulla to start with, finished equal first with Manly and Melbourne in his second year despite having a much worse team. Off field dramas as well as the fact they couldn't recruit players because of their financial situation was probably the reason they went to s**t again.
 

eels81236

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Stuart is a between the ears type coach. We might need someone like Stuart but we don't need Stuart.

Or when we have been through the remaining 85% of the season we may be going OK.
 

mickdo

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There is definitely a big problem somewhere.
It evident by the way the players have dogged it the last 2 weeks.

I just hope someone can get to the bottom of it.

I could be wrong, but for me it all seemed to change after Hayne's injury in round 2. We went from him being in the clear and set to put us 8 points in front, to what looked like a season ending injury.

I remember how I felt myself sitting in the stands when he went down, and alot of people around me were gasping and saying things like 'there goes the season'. Some of the players must have felt the same way, and although they put up a fight for the rest of that game, not having had him playing since has left a big hole not only as a player but to our confidence.

Anyhow, just my 5c worth...
 

natheel

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Ricky Stuart inherited a good squad with Roosters though. they made the GF in 2000 and came 6th in 2001.

he won a comp in his first season with a squad formed by Murray and he slowly tore it apart. lost 2 gfs then missed the finals in 05 and second last in 06 his last year. went to the sharks in 07. Where they had been in the finals in the years of 2000, 2001, 2002, 2005. then he got there in 07. granted they hadn't made the finals the year before but he was meant to turn them around to no avail (best result was 3rd in 08 all rest he missed the finals) . he's like Mal Meninga all he will be is an origin coach
 

Gronk

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Kearney must take responsibility for the Eels' plight

WHO do you blame for the terrible mess the Parramatta Eels find themselves in right now?

The usual suspects were calling for the directors to stand down over the weekend.

This board came into power the year Parramatta lost $9 million under old boss Denis Fitzgerald.

They got rid of the deadwood and transformed the club into a thriving business that now makes $10 million a year.

I didn't see any board members missing tackles against the Panthers on Friday night.

I didn't see them missing any tackles the previous week against the Cowboys, either.

It's quite obvious to anyone with a reasonable rugby league knowledge that Parramatta have coaching and recruitment problems. Despite his success with the Kiwi Test side, Stephen Kearney has shown nothing in 18 months.

The poor man looks shell-shocked.

Some of the recent signings - Carl Webb, Ben Roberts, Chris Walker, Paul Whatuira, the Tonga brothers and Reni Maitua - haven't struck a blow.

Sure, the board was responsible for sacking Daniel Anderson and for appointing Kearney.

But the Kiwi coach has had total control of the footy club, the salary cap, the coaching staff and the recruitment.

The day he signed he made it clear he would not tolerate any interference.

The board has stood back and given him a free rein.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/price-worth-every-cent/story-e6frfgbo-1226309821589
 

Bigfella

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The reason they sacked anderson was because we were told missing the semi's was unacceptable for this club so they brought in kearney.

So with a new coach we were meant to fix the incosistency from game to game under longface leader then after round 12 2011 it became a rebuilding year with a 3 year plan.

So after round 4 its a clean out year which has now become 5 year plan.

mmmmmmm surely the buck has to stop somewhere

1. The reason we were told that Anderson was sacked was that his future planning was not good enough.

2. 3 or 5 year plan, sacking Kearney now will not get any better results this year or next.

The buck HAS stopped.

We have a coaching and recruitment team who have come in and said recruitment, retention and attitude are all crap and we are rebuilding from the bottom up.

They have targeted areas and begun addressing them.

The players initially reacted well and have now dropped their bundle two games on a row.

All the good work will now be undone because of people with ore-existing agendas about Anderson/ 3p/ fitzgerald / or who don't want particular players omitted.

Sacking Kearney one season and four games in would be a disaster.

And people saying he has a great roster are being disingenuous.

He has a moderate roster with no hooker, an average back row, atrocious outside backs and no depth.

In addition his best player by a million miles has been unavailable.

There are soapy political fingers in and outside this club it has not been allowed to pull in one direction for twenty years - maybe more.
 

Gronk

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1. The reason we were told that Anderson was sacked was that his future planning was not good enough.

2. 3 or 5 year plan, sacking Kearney now will not get any better results this year or next.

The buck HAS stopped.

We have a coaching and recruitment team who have come in and said recruitment, retention and attitude are all crap and we are rebuilding from the bottom up.

They have targeted areas and begun addressing them.

The players initially reacted well and have now dropped their bundle two games on a row.

All the good work will now be undone because of people with ore-existing agendas about Anderson/ 3p/ fitzgerald / or who don't want particular players omitted.

Sacking Kearney one season and four games in would be a disaster.

And people saying he has a great roster are being disingenuous.

He has a moderate roster with no hooker, an average back row, atrocious outside backs and no depth.

In addition his best player by a million miles has been unavailable.

There are soapy political fingers in and outside this club it has not been allowed to pull in one direction for twenty years - maybe more.

I agree with this to a certain extent. We need to build for the future etc.

However we need to win games because otherwise the fans drop in numbers. If the fans do not come then we lose money. 2013 memberships will slip and as cellar dwellers our free to air exposure will also slip. Sponsors will find us less attractive and that puts greater pressure on the finances.

A coaching change may be our only hope to snap the squad into a different mindset. SK has about 4 weeks before the board have to look for alternatives IMO.
 

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I didn't see any board members missing tackles against the Panthers on Friday night.

I didn't see them missing any tackles the previous week against the Cowboys, either.

I didn't see Kearney missing any either - so what's the point Rothfield?
 

Gronk

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I think that blaming the Board for on-field performances is drawing a long bow. No other club's Board would be in the firing line for what the team dishes out unless they are influencing the coach's roster and team selections.

The buck stops with the players and the coach. The coach needs to get them working and winning.

Blaming the roster is a copout.

If we were losing by a couple each week then the knives wouldn't be out for the coach. Facts are that after 4 rounds we are -97 on the F&A differential. He needs to fix that or go.
 
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