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The T.V Rights Thread Part III

How much will the Total Broadcast Rights Deal be?


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If Brisbane2 get the nod I can see them regularly feature in this Sunday evening spot alongside Perth to capitalise on the Brisbane FTA audience.

I think they will have 7-10 or so games a season for 2013&14 in this slot to see ho wit rates then it will be a permenant fixture 2015 with the extra game expansion brings. They are alrewady talking about 3 of them being in Perth next year, I can see them putting the Broncos/Titans in a couple of them to test the Q'land response as well.
 

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If Brisbane2 get the nod I can see them regularly feature in this Sunday evening spot alongside Perth to capitalise on the Brisbane FTA audience.

I think they will have 7-10 or so games a season for 2013&14 in this slot to see ho wit rates then it will be a permenant fixture 2015 with the extra game expansion brings. They are alrewady talking about 3 of them being in Perth next year, I can see them putting the Broncos/Titans in a couple of them to test the Q'land response as well.

Why? The sunday night game will be first and foremost going after sydney ratings. There should be a variety of teams getting a game in that time slot. The people in brisbane should learn to follow rugby league instead of just the brisbane team.

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I can see the Sunday afternoon game will always feature a Sydney team (hopefully the NRL will make this the blockbuster game of the round featuring two Sydney teams each week where possible, play it at ANZ of SFS and pack the place out with a real event atmosphere) and the Sunday evening a Q'land/Perth team. They like to get audiences into routines and not surprisingly the bigger NSW audiences are when two NSw teams play and the bigger Q'land audience is when a Q'land team plays.
 

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I can see the Sunday afternoon game will always feature a Sydney team (hopefully the NRL will make this the blockbuster game of the round featuring two Sydney teams each week where possible, play it at ANZ of SFS and pack the place out with a real event atmosphere) and the Sunday evening a Q'land/Perth team. They like to get audiences into routines and not surprisingly the bigger NSW audiences are when two NSw teams play and the bigger Q'land audience is when a Q'land team plays.
I agree with your thoughts. Sunday 3/4pm LIVE featuring 2 sydney teams and make it Sydney match of the round from ANZ, Allianz or one off SCG match. The 6/7pm Sunday evening match would feature a NSW team on most occasions and always a QLD/WA/VIC team. WA would be the target due to the time difference. Would WA residents be happy with attending 5pm local time for all home games on a Sunday? Personally I would prefer Saturday nights 7.30 local for WA home games
 

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I think Sunday at that time would work well, doesn't interfere with sports and the beach and early enough that the kids can attend without too much school night impact. Othe roption from Tv's point might be a Sat 7pm (WA time) game giving a 9pm live game on Fox. Supersaturday may then be 4 games. Depends on how much Fox are willing to pay v's FTA for a second live Sunday game on FTA I guess? I am guessing a second Sunday game will be far more valuable than a 4th Saturday late night game.
 

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Good to see the IOC has acknowledged the NRL is a roundabout sort of way...

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...ct-is-negotiated/story-fn91v9q3-1226446271250

Olympic TV rights deal on hold until NRL contract is negotiated
THE IOC is holding off negotiating the next Olympic television rights deal for Australia until after the NRL broadcasting deal is done, according to Games marketing boss Timo Lumme.

Foxtel and the Nine Network paid a reported $128 million for the rights to broadcast the 2010 winter and 2012 Olympics, but the IOC says negotiations for the next rights package, to cover the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi and the 2016 Summer Olympics in Rio, have not yet begun.
Kerry Stokes's Seven group, which was the long-time Olympic broadcaster until the Nine/Foxtel consortium beat it for the 2010/2012 rights, is understood to be keen to win back the Olympic rights. But both Nine and Seven are in a more difficult financial position than they were when the last deal was struck in 2007.
Speaking in London yesterday, Mr Lumme told The Australian that the IOC would wait until the end of the London Games before turning its attention to the Australian rights deal for the next Games.








"We are gradually turning our sights to Australia," he said.
"We haven't made any decision on that, but it is something that we will be focusing on after the end of the Games.
"We want to see the rugby league deal done. That helps. That means clear air for us."
Australia is one of the last major countries to finalise an Olympic broadcasting deal for the 2014/2016 Games.
Mr Lumme said he expected the IOC to begin consideration of an Australian TV rights deal "before the end of the year, but we haven't taken a decision as yet as to when we are going to go ahead".
Senior Nine executives, including managing director Jeff Browne and chief executive David Gyngell, have been in London for the Games, along with Foxtel chief executive Richard Freudenstein.
Mr Lumme said he had heard that Ryan Stokes, son of Kerry Stokes and a former member of the IOC televison commission, might be in London as well, but he had not had any discussions with him during the Games.
He said the IOC felt "very comfortable" with the attractiveness of the Olympics as a product for television in Australia.
"We all know that broadcasters need premium content, so we feel very comfortable that we will be premium content," he said.
He rejected the suggestion that the disappointing performance of the Australian team in London might adversely affect the price of the next television rights deal.
"Yes, there have been a few less gold medals, but the overall performance is strong and will remain strong in the future. It is a very potent package.
"We are very confident that we will get the right value for the market."
The first big deal was struck last year with long-time US Olympic broadcaster NBC, which will pay $US4.38 billion ($4.15bn) for the 2014, 2016, 2018, and 2020 Winter and Summer Olympics rights.
The IOC has since announced a string of deals around the world, most of them for the 2014 Winter Games and the 2015 Summer Games as a package. While the IOC does not release the details of its deals, market estimates are that it has struck deals for France worth $US125m, for Germany worth $US187m, for Spain worth $US93m and for Italy worth $US220m.
On the eve of the London Games, government owned broadcaster BBC retained the rights to the next four Olympics in a $US100m deal. It followed up with a deal with CCTV for the Chinese TV rights for a reported $US160m.
The Canadian television rights package is understood to have just been wrapped up for between $US75m and $US80m, almost half the estimated $US150m paid for the current 2010/2012 Games package.
The IOC does not announce the amount it receives for individual television deals, but Mr Lumme agreed yesterday that there was "always going to be a blip" in the Canadian television rights fees for the next Games as the 2010/2012 package included the Vancouver Games, and home Olympics command a premium.
The question for Australia could be whether the deal is for a package of two Games or for a package of four Games. In an interview with The Australian earlier this year, Mr Lumme said the IOC was expecting an increase of at least 10 per cent on the $128m negotiated for the Australian television rights for 2010 and 2012.
However, the Canadian rights deal, which was struck at a much lower level, is a warning to the IOC that its quest for ever-increasing rights fees runs into the economics of broadcasting the Games when the economic environment is uncertain.
It is understood that the private consortium holding the Canadian rights for 2010 and 2012 has made a loss on the deal despite the fact that the winter Games took place on Canadian soil.
Government broadcaster CBC has regained the rights in the latest deal, following two low-ball bids which were rejected by the IOC.
Mr Lumme said the IOC had grossed almost $US4bn from the television rights deals for the London and Vancouver Games, some 50 per cent more than the $US2bn it raised from the rights to the 2006 Winter Games in Turin and the 2008 Summer Games in Beijing.
 

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What do you mean "hostile"?

And when are we going to bloody well know what the tv deal for League is? the suspense is killing me and it seems like its dragging on forever.
 

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What do you mean "hostile"?

And when are we going to bloody well know what the tv deal for League is? the suspense is killing me and it seems like its dragging on forever.

The time the games will be held will be a pain in the arse for Australasia and those who watch the Olympics.
 

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The time the games will be held will be a pain in the arse for Australasia and those who watch the Olympics.

Not much difference between London and Rio. London is 9hrs behind, while Rio is 13hrs behind, so 9pm here = 8am there. If anything it's slightly less hostile because the prime time events will be on later in the morning. Only hurts the broadcaster who won't have much to show besides replays between 7-9pm.

Will have minimal impact on League broadcasts if Nine win both rights which is also good.
 

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Not much difference between London and Rio. London is 9hrs behind, while Rio is 13hrs behind, so 9pm here = 8am there. If anything it's slightly less hostile because the prime time events will be on later in the morning. Only hurts the broadcaster who won't have much to show besides replays between 7-9pm.

Will have minimal impact on League broadcasts if Nine win both rights which is also good.

That 4 hours will make a huge difference.

In London there is a good range of events from 7pm-11pm, while the majority of the marquee events are held in the early hours of the morning while people are getting ready for work/school.

Pushing those times back 4 hours means that the morning events will start later in the night outside prime-time TV, and the majority of the marquee events will be late morning, when a lot of people will be at work. It will only help the weekend ratings, as the people who can't be stuffed waking up at the crack of dawn can watch too.

The highlights package that the TV station shows at night will probably out-rate the live events by a fair margin.
 

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That 4 hours will make a huge difference.

In London there is a good range of events from 7pm-11pm, while the majority of the marquee events are held in the early hours of the morning while people are getting ready for work/school.

Pushing those times back 4 hours means that the morning events will start later in the night outside prime-time TV, and the majority of the marquee events will be late morning, when a lot of people will be at work. It will only help the weekend ratings, as the people who can't be stuffed waking up at the crack of dawn can watch too.

The highlights package that the TV station shows at night will probably out-rate the live events by a fair margin.

Was exactly my point, Nine has been starting it's coverage at 7pm, with a lot of events starting at around 7:30-8pm. In Rio with another 4 hours behind, live coverage won't start until 11pm, that could push the start of main event heats back to midnight.

Lets look at some average ratings, last night for example

Early Evening 6:50-8:30pm - 1.6 mil
Evening 8:30pm-11pm - 1.7mil
Late and Fringe both at around 700,000, not sure on the timeslot.

http://molkstvtalk.com/ratings/ratings-080812/
 

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Broadcast rights might not be sealed before old deal runs dry

NOW the ARL Commission is approaching what is being termed the ''struggle'' stage of the broadcast rights negotiations, chairman John Grant has raised the prospect of no new deal being signed by the time money from this contract dries up.
In the pursuit of the ''right outcome'', Grant said all possibilities had been explored. And while it is expected the administration will have a new deal by November 1, he said the game was sustainable even if the windfall from the new deal were delayed.
''It's something that we're not going to drive any faster than we need to to get the right outcome,'' Grant said yesterday. ''We're pursuing it as quickly as we can. It would be nice to have all i's dotted, all t's crossed and money flying by the first of November, which is the end of the current broadcast rights, but if that doesn't happen, we can sustain ourselves for some considerable time after that. We've got to get the right outcome.''
If there are delays, there are implications for the clubs. They have been told to expect a salary cap of $5 million next season, but there is still uncertainty about the level of the player payment ceiling beyond that. Some players might hold off signing long-term with their clubs, as they wait for a concrete idea of the money on offer. Grant, though, stressed that, ''We've given the clubs pretty clear guidelines on what we believe they should be basing their planning around, and we're all moving from the same process.''

He is also prepared to be patient about the search for a new chief executive, despite the public thirst for a quick appointment. He also raised the prospect of a short-term boss - although he did not clarify what sort of timeframe he meant. ''We've gone to the second stage of that process, which is identifying a shortlist of candidates. We're in the process of interviewing that shortlist,'' Grant said. ''We're not under pressure to make a hasty decision.''
The commission met officials from the four western Sydney clubs in Parramatta yesterday, with Grant saying the administration was intent on a less ''fragmented'' approach in the region. ''The economy of western Sydney is growing at an amazing rate, and rugby league needs to be a part of that growth,'' Grant said.
The commission decided next year's City-Country match would be played at Coffs Harbour, while plans for a Nines tournament in New Zealand in 2014 would continue to be reviewed. The commissioners have also ended any prospect of North Queensland halfback Robert Lui playing again this season, prompting an angry response from the Cowboys.
Lui had been banned from playing in April after pleading guilty to assault occasioning actual bodily harm to his partner Taleah Backo. The Cowboys had attempted to convince the ARLC he should be able to play again this year, due to favourable reports from a psychologist, but that plea was rejected. ''We are very disappointed with the decision,'' Cowboys chief executive Peter Jourdain said in a statement. ''The psychologist who has been working with Robert for many months is of the very firm view that Robert is now at the point where playing football is a very important part of his rehabilitation.''



http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...al-runs-dry-20120809-23x6v.html#ixzz2364HcIAx
 

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/nrl/no-deadline-for-tv-deal/story-fnca0von-1226447079898

No deadline for TV deal

by: Brent Read
From: The Australian
August 10, 2012 12:00AM

THEY stand accused of standing still. No chief executive, no television deal, referees in crisis, clubs and players crying out for more money.

Today signals the six-month anniversary of the ceremonial baton being passed from the game's former administration to the independent commission and pressure continues to mount on chairman John Grant and his fellow commissioners.

Not that Grant seems overly concerned as he sits in his makeshift office at Rugby League Central. During an interview with The Australian to mark the commission's six months in charge, he makes no apologies for its meticulous approach.

On the broadcasting deal and search for a chief executive, Grant preaches patience. Striking the right deal and finding the right person takes time. As he rightly points out, he and his fellow commissioners will be judged on the outcome. The two biggest issues in rugby league will shape their legacy. Get it right and they will be lauded. Get it wrong and they will be in the crosshairs. It's part of the reason Grant refuses to put a timeline on broadcasting negotiations.

It will be done when it's done. Despite widespread speculation it could be completed before next month's grand final, Grant suggests that may be a tad optimistic. The commission even has contingency plans in place should talks go beyond October 31, when the current deal expires and existing television money dries up.

The process hasn't been helped by the Olympic Games, which stalled negotiations for a fortnight as the networks' big players headed to London. Nevertheless, they have begun in earnest again and Grant remains optimistic the game will get its golden pay-day.

"You can't put timing on a negotiation that is going to take a number of parties to come to terms," Grant said.

"There is no timing necessity around grand final. There is no timing necessity other than 31st of October, which is not drop dead, because we have contingencies beyond that. If it takes longer to get the right outcome, it will take longer. We need to not be driven by time, but be driven by the right outcome.

"I think we have the best television product in Australia. We deliver something over 30-plus weeks which is top drawer. Therefore we're going to make sure we get as much as we can out of it."

The magical figure is $1 billion, although that may be conservative if the commission decides to look for a longer deal than the expected five years. Grant confirmed that the length of the next deal was flexible.

As for the referees, he made it clear there would be no knee-jerk reaction.

"Our objective is to make sure the game is as entertaining an experience as it can be for the fans," Grant said.

"We're not going to be sidelined by particular spikes of anything, whether it be referees, rule changes, whatever.

"We're not going to publicly have any performance reviews of them. What we need to be doing is standing behind our referees and understanding they have this job."

While the game's biggest issues remain in a holding pattern, the commission has made some decisive and influential calls. The most significant was to part ways with chief executive David Gallop, a move which still rankles some.

Grant takes great pride in the decision to switch to the McIntyre finals system, a move which will be vindicated when the finals begin next month. He and his fellow commissioners also presided over the Gold Coast Titans debacle and its subsequent rehabilitation.

Those who question the commission's work over the past six months should remember the delicate situation involving the Titans. From day one, it was thrust upon them. The Titans are now edging clear of the financial abyss.

"We're talking about the demise of a football club, the ramifications of which are the breakdown in a broadcasting relationship in terms of number of games we can deliver, penalties associated with that. It's huge. I think people underestimate the engagement the commission had around that issue."

Grant acknowledges there was enormous expectation placed on the commission.

"We came into this role knowing the weight of expectation," Grant said.

"We're responding where we think it is appropriate. Look at the game. The people who support and follow the game, they're having a better time this year than they had last year, and last year was fantastic. I think that is really the barometer -- where is the game at and where do the stakeholders think the game is at."
 
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