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The T.V Rights Thread Part III

How much will the Total Broadcast Rights Deal be?


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Edwahu

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Excuse my ignorance, what does Contra refer to?

Its goods or services in place of cash. So in the AFLs case, they get 135 million of advertising and production costs off the rights holders, on top of the cash component.
 

BDR

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Ah right, cheers for that. Pretty handy amount of advertising you could get for 135 mil!
 

Goddo

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From what I understand, all the AwFuL shows on Fox count towards the contra.

Bit pointless, as Fox needs time slot fillers for the AFL channel and would have made the shows anyway. Just look at 9 with the AwFuL footyshow, or 10 with before the game and other crap they show in Melbourne.
 

Dogs Of War

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With a name like SWANson I think you may be right.

The name Ron Swanson is out of the TV shows Parks and Recreation. The real Ron Swanson would not be getting in this sort of argument.

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Edwahu

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Another article from the Australian. Again this guys is saying less the a billion. He goes off on a tangent about contra and crowds to fill column space though, so not sure he really has much information.

NRL channel may help sweeten new TV broadcast rights deal
BY: SIMON CANNING From: The Australian May 07, 2012 12:00AM



A dedicated NRL TV channel is on the agenda in the bidding for broadcast rights. Source: The Daily Telegraph
A DEDICATED National Rugby League channel on Foxtel is back on the agenda as the pay-TV channel and the Nine Network submit their bids to retain the NRL rights today.

In their most important job since taking control of the NRL this year, the commissioners will start assessing the Nine Network and Fox Sports bids for broadcast rights, expected to be less than $1 billion.

The code is keen to expand its free-to-air presence up to four games a week, but the NRL remains vitally important to Foxtel on the east coast and in regional areas, where the company has taken over regional pay-TV provider Austar.

Fox Sports is originally believed to have ruled out a dedicated channel for the code, similar to its AFL Footy channel, but a proposal is expected to be part of the offer and could form a significant part of the contra element of Fox Sport's offer.


The bid for a billion-dollar pay day will rely heavily on the code's ability to leverage interest from the Seven Network and Network Ten, who will be allowed to bid if the NRL takes the rights to a public auction.

While the 16 clubs making up the competition hope for a cash windfall, another, no less important element may prove crucial in deciding who wins the battle.

Contra advertising -- free ads the NRL can use to promote memberships and ticket sales -- are expected to be an important factor in the winning bid as the NRL hunts for a way to fill its vast stadiums.

While the AFL can fill stadiums such as the MCG for its home and away matches, the NRL's decision to move from smaller suburban grounds and embrace bigger venues such as Sydney's 80,000-seat ANZ Stadium, the 52,000-seat Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane, the 45,000-seat Allianz Stadium in Sydney, the 30,000 AAMI Park in Melbourne and the 27,000-seat Skilled Park on the Gold Coast has increased the need to help promote its home and away matches.

The new venues have been criticised as lacking atmosphere due to empty seats.

More than 10 per cent of the AFL's $1.25bn broadcast deal came from similar contra deals and the code has been using the free advertising to great effect to promote membership and ticket sales.

Seven has filled its broadcasts with ads for coming games in various markets, and the contra has also been used to secure space in other broadcasts, in particular Seven's V8 Supercars coverage.

Over on Fox Sports, the code is also flooding the network with ads across all of the Fox Sports-owned channels and has launched the dedicated Footy channel.

There has also been keen interest from Seven to grab the jewel in the crown NRL State of Origin series if it fails in a bid to win the rights outright, while Ten would love to boost its ratings with some NRL games.

Nine retaining the code in a deal with Fox Sports remains the most likely outcome, but some observers fear that cash remains the overriding motivator for the NRL and the new commission, and it may be willing to split the two.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/med...cast-rights-deal/story-fna045gd-1226348183510
 

Brutus

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I agree - the MCG has never been filled to the brim for a home and away match.

Just look at the crowds they get for GFs and compare them to the ANZAC Day games ect..

I've never seen 95k plus for home and away so the MCG doesn't sell out for H&A (despite selling $2.50 tickets lol
 

BuffaloRules

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Fox Sports is originally believed to have ruled out a dedicated channel for the code, similar to its AFL Footy channel, but a proposal is expected to be part of the offer and could form a significant part of the contra element of Fox Sport's offer.

Dedicated channel is a must, hopefully with more discussion/panel shows like the League Lounge that are sadly lacking these days...
 

Ron Swanson

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I'm not surprised. The Australian is a Melbourne newspaper.

It's a Sydney publication actually and the only News Limited paper in this country with any journalistic credibility (if you ignore its strong right wing bias, that doesn't bother me anyway).

Not surprised at all by the Fox Sports NRL channel offer. If they want to simulcast, they're going to need a dedicated NRL channel or create a Fox Sports 4 with the sheer amount of content they would have to show on the weekend. All you would need is one overseas Australian cricket tour and they've got all sorts of broadcasting issues.
 
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carlosthedwarf

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A dedicated NRL TV channel is on the agenda in the bidding for broadcast rights.

A DEDICATED National Rugby League channel on Foxtel is back on the agenda as the pay-TV channel and the Nine Network submit their bids to retain the NRL rights today.
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Fox Sports is originally believed to have ruled out a dedicated channel for the code, similar to its AFL Footy channel, but a proposal is expected to be part of the offer and could form a significant part of the contra element of Fox Sport's offer.

Sounds like a non story to me. There's no point in having a dedicated channel because Foxtel subscriptions in NSW+QLD are already very strong.
 

Nerd

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Canning has obviously never been to Suncorp Stadium.

The article comes across as a poorly researched puff piece from an AFL supporter attempting to talk down the next rights deal.

Bit of a step down in class for The Australian as they normally have pretty good articles.
 

carlosthedwarf

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It's a shame because Canning had some great articles a few weeks ago about 10s stupid decision to take F1 and Moto GP off One HD. Not sure why he's put in such a poor effort with this one.
 

El Diablo

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Another article from the Australian. Again this guys is saying less the a billion. He goes off on a tangent about contra and crowds to fill column space though, so not sure he really has much information.



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/med...cast-rights-deal/story-fna045gd-1226348183510

believed to have ruled out a channel?

they did rule it out http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?p=8049665#post8049665

page 42 of the AFR on Feb 6

Rugby league is the most popular sport on pay TV in Australia, but Mr Delany said a dedicated NRL channel on Foxtel and Austar was not on the agenda.

“I think AFL will be unique in that regard,” he said. “AFL really is a 24 hours a day, seven days a week passion for its fans.”
 

carlosthedwarf

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The only reason they had a channel is to drive subscriptions outside NSW/QLD. It has nothing to do with passion.
 

j5o6hn

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Um When did ANY Murdoch paper get credibility Ron,those bastards have done there best to hold Rugby Leage back and undervalue it the conflict of interest is huge,they also have taken to throwing their support behind AFL.
The day the Telegraph gets around to printing anything that resembles the truth or a close proximity of it Falou will walk on water through the Heads in his magic undies,NEWS LTD are crooks liars as has been shown in the UK
 

docbrown

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Anybody buying into the NRL Channel/Foxtel Contra is an idiot.

They're trying to repeat the swifty they pulled on the AFL.

"Oh no, you'll never get a dedicated channel..."
"Okay you'll get a dedicate channel but you'll have to sacrifice this blah blah blah..."

Advertising to people who have bought the product is nowhere near as important as real cash dollars that can be spent on the ground.

You forget that Foxtel still has to meet its 50% targets. They need to create these ancillary programmes anyway. Why pay for the priveledge of something Foxtel already has to do themselves anyway?!

Do not sacrifice real dollars for an illusion.
 
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