The T.V Rights Thread Part III

[El Diablo]

"I don't know the initial bid, but they wont get much" :lol:

he's a joke

"they won't get a billion but nobody has told me any figures because they'll end up in court"

he's all over the shop :lol:

 

[Brutus]

Kent's just slurring the words of his pay masters as per usual.

 

[docbrown]

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=24139047#post24139047

hi Smokin

Apparently Juniors at the MCG aren't $2.80 - they're $2.50 :lol:

 

[Brutus]

Excellent call by "UTR" on 2SM following the Kent interview.

Somebody from here? If so, well done.

 

[El Diablo]

and Kent will be on The Back Page tonight

News Ltd have given him a busy schedule to get him to spread their message

 

[Ronnie Dobbs]

Excellent call by "UTR" on 2SM following the Kent interview.

Somebody from here? If so, well done.

Please do elaborate

 

[nrlnrl]

That's the problem. For 5 years now AFL has been on the default channel - Fox 1 - at the clubs, meaning whenever you walk into a licensed club AFL is on as Fox one is the default channel for the big screen.

I have never seen this at pubs or clubs. None of them consider 1,2 or 3 as the "default" channel - if anything though, the rugby league is always on most of the screens whether it's Channel 9 or Fox Sports. The ones I go to have multiple screens & are happy to change the channel to whatever you'd like to watch.

Maybe I'm just lucky - better go & buy an Oz Lotto ticket....

 

[RL The greatest game]

Kent reckons we'll get close to a billion

reckons current bid is $800-850 million

he doesn't know much really. just guessing

I will be surprised if the final offer is less than $billion. Any opening offer is just that. nothing more nothing less. Its called negotiations. Its like a game of poker, not letting your opponents know what you have got to offer.

 

[nrlnrl]

Lets face it guys, until the final bid is on the table and accepted by the NRL, we are going to have to put up with morons banging on about AFL getting more because they have longer games, national coverage and more natural ad spots. I'd like to think that once the deal is done that the dick measuring contest will finish, but I have no doubt that all it will do is start the excuses v bragging contest.

unfortunately that is a certainty

we'd be better off worrying about how the rights are going to be used

 

[taste2taste]

I will be surprised if the final offer is less than $billion. Any opening offer is just that. nothing more nothing less. Its called negotiations. Its like a game of poker, not letting your opponents know what you have got to offer.

Correct. Also 7 & 10 will drive up the price once they make bids.

 

[CC_Roosters]

I have never seen this at pubs or clubs. None of them consider 1,2 or 3 as the "default" channel - if anything though, the rugby league is always on most of the screens whether it's Channel 9 or Fox Sports. The ones I go to have multiple screens & are happy to change the channel to whatever you'd like to watch.

Maybe I'm just lucky - better go & buy an Oz Lotto ticket....

I agree. I have never seen afl on in any club on the central coast, by default all of the tv's on are set to FS2 by default if anything

 

[Tommax25]

For starters it obviously looks like 9 & FS couldn't get their act together in time and are bidding on the original properties.

Note that this article contradict the one the other that goes into detail about ad breaks etc - and that those plans are already in motion.

But anyhow examining it for what it is -

* Blame it on the AFL - rather than the company that pays Kent who want to f**k over the game at every turn... also they try and turn into an AFL vs NRL issue rather than a NRL fans vs Fox/9 issue

* The AFL's figures are less than sparkling - yet since the start of the season we've heard continuous propaganda about how strong the ratings are - it has actually shown that simulcast works

* AFL boats a pre-season comp - oh well... how will the NRL ever overcome that... :lol:

* It's a fluke that the AFL states have low ad revenue - they've never had as much AFL content as they do. There's a two word reason why there's a disparity between NSW/QLD and those states - it's called Rugby League

* To attract more subscriptions in those states Fox Sports created a fully dedicated AFL channel which has brought sparkling ratings through existing customers - but not enough new subscriptions to justify the cost. - Bullshit. First quarter THIRD year dumb arse - check their own strategy

* Given the two major rugby league states, NSW and Queensland, already have a much higher percentage of pay-TV subscriptions, there is less upside for the pay-TV subscriber to compete for the NRL rights. - not even Foxtel believes that they'll retain all their CURRENT viewers in 2020 - they need to grow viewers to account for the ones they're going to lose to NBN etc

* About introducing mandatory ad breaks during games, a proposal Nine has distanced itself from. - If only the head of the network hadn't come out so publically in favour of it we might believe that :lol:


* Nine and Fox Sports will next come together to see if they can provide a joint agreement before the NRL goes to an open market - bullshit. The NRL has no legal requirement to give Nine another first opportunity to pull their shit together. Time line is past. All aboard!


But of course most rugby league fans will remain silent about this. They'll go to Footy Show audience on Thursday night and instead of throwing tomatoes they'll clap and cheer and cop it sweet.

If this pisses you off, express yourself for crying out loud. Point out just how f**king angry it makes you.

Of course Kent forgot to add this little comment at the bottom-


*"This piece of diversionary propaganda bought and paid for by News Limited - f**king Rugby League over since 1997"

I will express my anger at this, despite it obviously being the initial bid, but where should I do it? I'm sure I'm not supposed to comment on the papers article, that just helps them, and not on 9's fb as they'd delete it if its bad anyway. Email to Gallop/Comission? Do you know it?

 

[taipan]

Nothing to do with reading any crap that the Telegraph dishes out.

The advertising dollars simply aren't there to warrant overpaying for the NRL rights. Nine can't afford to overpay - they have a $2 Billion loan to re-negotiate early next year and aren't making any real money. Seven have already overpaid for the AFL rights and it simply isn't worth their while to pay stupid money for it. Ten don't have the owners that will allow them to pay stupid money for the rights. Fox will simply wait and see who gets it because they have no competition - they don't need to pay stupid money for it.

I said all of this 12 months ago and the economic climate has got worse - not better. $1 Billion for the rights at the moment makes no sense for any of the 3 FTA stations. That is the problem.

Actually there is a 4th station,it's called Foxtel.At last reports they have some influence,and need rugby league like a nympho needs a nookie.

 

[Tommax25]

My first thought when I read the Paul Kent article, which was the first one I read and had me a little worried, was that wait a second? The NRL is going to suffer, despite raping the AFL in ratings for years, because the networks overpaid for the AFL? So the NRL is going to suffer for the MISTAKES of the networks?

9/Fox need NRL more than we need them, and if anything the NRL could say "how about this? If you don't bid minimum $1billion, even if no-one else bids, then no-one gets the rights, how about that?" 9/Fox would come crawling back, so they need to stop acting like the NRL is going to suffer because AFL was overpaid. NRL will get parity.

 

[docbrown]

Excellent call by "UTR" on 2SM following the Kent interview.

Somebody from here? If so, well done.

Didn't listen, what did they say and what was the response?

 

[Tommax25]

I have never seen this at pubs or clubs. None of them consider 1,2 or 3 as the "default" channel - if anything though, the rugby league is always on most of the screens whether it's Channel 9 or Fox Sports. The ones I go to have multiple screens & are happy to change the channel to whatever you'd like to watch.

Maybe I'm just lucky - better go & buy an Oz Lotto ticket....

I don't go out clubbing/pubbing that often but when I do this seems to be the case. NRL, if on, will be on the main screen, as it should be, regardless of the channel. However, it did piss me off once that they had on nrl on a side screen, which was the only one I could see from where we were, and they changed it to afl.

Unless someone asked for the afl to be shown somewhere thats bullshit. I'm not unreasonable but EVERY screen in a pub in nsw and qld should have rugby league on it when its on unless someone asks for afl, then it can be put on one screen for them. This could have been the case in my experience, but if it wasn't its bullshit. Would a pub in Victoria put on the nrl on a screen randomly when it started? I highly doubt it.

 

[andrew057]

Yeah some people seem to act like Fox 1 is some sort of default?

 

[docbrown]

My first thought when I read the Paul Kent article, which was the first one I read and had me a little worried, was that wait a second? The NRL is going to suffer, despite raping the AFL in ratings for years, because the networks overpaid for the AFL? So the NRL is going to suffer for the MISTAKES of the networks?

9/Fox need NRL more than we need them, and if anything the NRL could say "how about this? If you don't bid minimum $1billion, even if no-one else bids, then no-one gets the rights, how about that?" 9/Fox would come crawling back, so they need to stop acting like the NRL is going to suffer because AFL was overpaid. NRL will get parity.

If you're trying to voice your displeasure over 9, best to contact Fairfax journos. Main guys -

rhinds@theage.com.au

twitter-
@phillutton
@bradwalterSMH

 

[applesauce]

Yeah some people seem to act like Fox 1 is some sort of default?

The only evidence I have seen of this is at various gyms.

 

[Ron Swanson]

he's a joke

"they won't get a billion but nobody has told me any figures because they'll end up in court"

he's all over the shop :lol:

Why would anyone in the negotiating process tell a journo how much the offer is? Not only does it screw over 9/Fox's strategic position, it would ruin the NRL's position (they don't want 7, 10 etc. to know how much the bid is). Plus, of course there's confidentiality at play as Paul Kent suggested.

I'm sure Roy will tell you it's an offer of $1.5 trillion and you'll think he's a genius.