The T.V Rights Thread Part III

[Brutus]

Ch 7 is shit. I've never liked it. But if they get the rugby league...

 

[docbrown]

Just in brief reply to a few things
* Expansion 9th game - 2015-2017
* Despite digital coverage the halo effect still exists (and even then it exists to act against the network's own secondaries too)
* It's true that people will avoid channels that are oversaturated with content they dislike
* 9 benefits from the NRL's youth halo

 

[El Diablo]

Optus are apparently going to appeal the TV Now decision say Sky News

 

[j5o6hn]

I avoid commerical TV like the plague watch SBS and ABC,watch Gem on Sunday for RL as I,m in Perth rest of the time I watch Foxtel I have Foxtel for Footy if that goes so does Foxtel.
7 9 10 are crap

 

[El Diablo]

http://technologyspectator.com.au/industry/internet/optus-declares-high-court-challenge-tv-now-case

Optus declares High Court challenge to TV Now case
Harrison Polites

Published 12:44 PM, 10 May 2012
Last update 12:50 PM, 10 May 2012

Optus has declared it will appeal the latest TV Now ruling in the High Court, continuing a saga that is set to shape the future crossroads of technology and copyright law.

The latest decision to appeal is set to continue an ongoing legal saga involving the AFL, Telstra and Optus’ TV Now product.

“We believe the TV Now case is extremely important in deciding the future for innovation, consumer choice and competition” Optus chief executive Paul O’Sullivan said.

“As innovations like TV Now are readily available in other parts of the world, Australia must remain globally competitive and embrace the rapid convergence of technologies as we head towards an NBN world,” Mr O’Sullivan said.

“Australian consumers want legitimate access to content on any device regardless of the genre and we want to continue making the latest technologies available to Australians to meet this demand.”

 

[docbrown]

Optus are apparently going to appeal the TV Now decision say Sky News

For people who claim to be innovators they do a good job at going in circles :crazy:

 

[Karl]

7 has Mythbusters and Top Gear. And some way behind the US shows most people just download. And some old shows no-one cares about anymore, And Southpark, and twe Colbert Report, but they are never on when I'm watching the box, and I'm kind of over South Park anyway. Nope, Brutus is right. 7 is woeful.

 

[Karl]

Optus are apparently going to appeal the TV Now decision say Sky News

Pidgeons, meet Cat.

Lets pretend they get up and TV Now comes to Australia, as I believe it should.

What are the impacts do you think?

 

[rednblack]

7 has Mythbusters and Top Gear. And some way behind the US shows most people just download. And some old shows no-one cares about anymore, And Southpark, and twe Colbert Report, but they are never on when I'm watching the box, and I'm kind of over South Park anyway. Nope, Brutus is right. 7 is woeful.

Didn't know south park was on 7. When?
Top Gear is on Go, isn't it?

 

[El Diablo]

Pidgeons, meet Cat.

Lets pretend they get up and TV Now comes to Australia, as I believe it should.

What are the impacts do you think?

Union will die

 

[age.s]

the AFL nutters are still at it http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=24154739#post24154739

Hilarious. They sit there and lambast League fans for trolling, arrogance, idiocy and irrational hating and prove this with trolling, arrogance, idiocy and irrational hating. They talk about hatred and anti-victorianism and try to prove this with bigoted posts of their own. I actually couldn't care less about the hating, it's the sanctimonious, holier than thou attitude they take while doing it that makes it so putrid. If they're looking a reason so many NRL fans hate them (and by extension their geniused sport) they should look at their own comments in that thread for a clearer picture.

 

[BDR]

To be fair though they're cherry picking moronic posts - like the one from the guy refusing to watch channel 7 because of AFL. Guys on here are doing the same, there are obviously one-eyed fans on both sides.

I don't know why we are even dignifying their bullshit with a response.

 

[docbrown]

Pidgeons, meet Cat.

Lets pretend they get up and TV Now comes to Australia, as I believe it should.

What are the impacts do you think?

It won't get up.

If Optus wins the next appeal the law will be changed anyway. There's near universal political support against it.

I can understand why people would want a service like TV Now.

Cheap. Near live. Ad-free - but it's unsustainable.

If Optus were to actually pay for the rights to those programmes they couldn't offer it for anywhere near the same price.

 

[Ronnie Dobbs]

Plus that Optus TV Now ad really gets on my nerves.

"Thats right little monkey man"

"Its a great day for you and the monkey on your back"

WTF?

Time for a new agency Optus.

 

[Karl]

Didn't know south park was on 7. When?
Top Gear is on Go, isn't it?

http://au.tv.yahoo.com/tv-shows/filter/o-t/

You're right though - Top Gear is on 9 and Go.

Lying bastiges!

 

[Karl]

It won't get up.

If Optus wins the next appeal the law will be changed anyway. There's near universal political support against it.

I can understand why people would want a service like TV Now.

Cheap. Near live. Ad-free - but it's unsustainable.

If Optus were to actually pay for the rights to those programmes they couldn't offer it for anywhere near the same price.

Something like it will come in. They'll get a model up that won't infringe the Copyright Act. I am allowed to record Free to Air TV and watch it for my own personal use, this is just a way to do it using a mobile phone, someone elses hard drive and to watch the content very quickly after it's been recorded. The reasoning behind the judgement must be very technical and it will be a judgement that will be confined to a very specific fact scenario.

For example, have a device that records the content on my own hard-drive at home and uploads it in a stream to a server I rent from Optus for my personal access only, and then Optus enables me to access my server via my mobile phone.

 

[docbrown]

Something like it will come in. They'll get a model up that won't infringe the Copyright Act.

Not with the current system and definitely not with playback within the original airtime.

Optus are getting a request for a specific programme and thus can't claim ignorance when they copy it. And mind you - it was also revealed that to save server space the TV Now system is designed to copy from a minimal number of original copies if requests are received from multiple users i.e. if 500,000 people request a copy of State of Origin, the system would determine the bare minimum amount of copies required for mailbox transfer (this means there aren't 500,000 individual copies at anyone time as per their original argument).

 

[seanoff]

Not with the current system and definitely not with playback within the original airtime.

Optus are getting a request for a specific programme and thus can't claim ignorance when they copy it. And mind you - it was also revealed that to save server space the TV Now system is designed to copy from a minimal number of original copies if requests are received from multiple users i.e. if 500,000 people request a copy of State of Origin, the system would determine the bare minimum amount of copies required for mailbox transfer (this means there aren't 500,000 individual copies at anyone time as per their original argument).

i can't see how it gets around using a carriage service. there is no way to argue they aren't re-broadcasting using a carriage service.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Same with me. I have spent too many years watching channel 9, thanks almost entirely to them having the footy and the cricket rights. That led to me watching other programs on 9, without ever being very aware of what was on other channels. Losing the footy will definitely have an impact on the ratings for their other shows too!

Agreed.

I was surprised when I heard that channel 7 was the industry leader, because I just don't ever watch it. I watch f**k-all tv anyway but when I do it's channel 9 and Foxtel - for the NRL.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

Probably means nothing, but I just saw an ad on 7 pushing League. It was them saying that they would have Hindmarsh in talking about how the Eels plan on turning the season around on the news tomorrow.

Now, I'm no industry expert, but why would a channel promote a sport that's on another channel?