The T.V Rights Thread Part III

[Dragonwest]

Good to see Perth crack 100,000 peak viewing, up on game one.

Half of that number was at the Paddo

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

I don't criticize League any more than anyone else on this forum and usually more constructively than some passionate Union haters when I do. I also have a lot of positive things to say about League. Some twits just can't get past the fact I also like Union. I understand the reasons for it, I just think they're peurile and childish.

FFS... lol

It's a meeting you'll not enjoy?

What you have to say about Rugby League is about as useful as gloves are to a handless man.

Just STFU where it means something and stick to getting your sorry arse plastered all over TFC.

 

[docbrown]

I don't criticize League any more than anyone else on this forum and usually more constructively than some passionate Union haters when I do. I also have a lot of positive things to say about League. Some twits just can't get past the fact I also like Union. I understand the reasons for it, I just think they're peurile and childish.

 

[Dresden Dan]

So looks like league will be same or more money than AFL & all without having the drain of funding two unwanted expansion clubs to the cost of 100s of millions of $.

What AFL should have done is saved all that Giants & Suns money by instead adding new team in Tasmania & some other AFL city paid for by private owners or members or by not adding two new teams at all.

The 100s of millions $$$ that have been spent on Giants & Suns for stuff all gain would have been better used signing up all the top NRL stars & juniors to kill off league.

The AFL has really blown it here.

 

[Canucks]

So looks like league will be same or more money than AFL & all without having the drain of funding two unwanted expansion clubs to the cost of 100s of millions of $.

What AFL should have done is saved all that Giants & Suns money by instead adding new team in Tasmania & some other AFL city paid for by private owners or members or by not adding two new teams at all.

The 100s of millions $$$ that have been spent on Giants & Suns for stuff all gain would have been better used signing up all the top NRL stars & juniors to kill off league.

The AFL has really blown it here.

I agree, even if we get marginally less than the AFL's deal it costs us alot less to sarbotage GWS than it costs them to promote them.

To be honest I would hire a guy to keep tabs on every school they go to and make sure we visit them the week after.

The money thing is imortant but 1.4 billion with no strategy is no better than 900m with decent gameplan.

My idea with the TV money? Rent out Acer Arena for a week, get every school to do an excersion and have a massive rugby league event there with the players playing mini games, skills competitions, videos on the main screen showing classic highlights plus education tips on behavior, importance of staying in school etc.... rather than seeing a million schools bring them all in and recruit them all to play.... Do a GWS and get the govt to pay for half.... 17k school kids every day....

 

[Brutus]

The third most watched show on Wednesday night in Melbourne was State of Origin rugby league. It finished just behind The Block and Nine News.

The rugby league actually beat Masterchef in Melbourne and won its timeslot.

Great result for our game.

 

[Perth Red]

So looks like league will be same or more money than AFL & all without having the drain of funding two unwanted expansion clubs to the cost of 100s of millions of $.

What AFL should have done is saved all that Giants & Suns money by instead adding new team in Tasmania & some other AFL city paid for by private owners or members or by not adding two new teams at all.

The 100s of millions $$$ that have been spent on Giants & Suns for stuff all gain would have been better used signing up all the top NRL stars & juniors to kill off league.

The AFL has really blown it here.

They haven't invested these sort of sums for today, or tommorrow. Like the investment in Swans and Lions (which I have no doubt at the time everyone in RL said was a waste of money and wouldn't be around in a few years) they are looking to 20 years+. They realise that to get the big money requires a perception of a national sport that is growing. Something we will eventually cotton on to. As we quite rightly point out many times the $'s in TV are in NSW, obvious place to try and grow your game. GC was just to make up the numbers and give that national perception imo. Tasmania will never have an AFL team as they know that it is too small a place to sustain a $30mill+ a year sports business, not disimiliar to why I can't see a CC or CQ team coming in next.
If Gallop had any ability we would have announced Perth and Brisbane2 expansion back in 2011 and be looking forward to welcoming them into the comp next season along with the sizeable TV $'s that would have come with it.

What's the betting if we get sub $billion the reasons trotted out will be AFL's national metro city presence and the fact they have an extra game each round?

 

[undertaker]

The third most watched show on Wednesday night in Melbourne was State of Origin rugby league. It finished just behind The Block and Nine News.

The rugby league actually beat Masterchef in Melbourne and won its timeslot.

Great result for our game.

I was thinking the same thing as well when I saw those ratings. In the past, Masterchef or X Factor would've finished 1st in Melbourne by quite a distance. The fact that Origin won its timeslot in the place where AFL is a religion (and up against one of Ch10's drawcard programmes) definitely disproves Ch9/Gallop's line of thinking for years, that league doesn't rate in Melbourne.

Hopefully, with a close game in Origin 3, 400k+ in Melbourne is on the cards. Either way, RL in Melbourne >>>>>>>>>>> AFL in Sydney

 

[Dresden Dan]

They haven't invested these sort of sums for today, or tommorrow. Like the investment in Swans and Lions (which I have no doubt at the time everyone in RL said was a waste of money and wouldn't be around in a few years) they are looking to 20 years+. They realise that to get the big money requires a perception of a national sport that is growing. Something we will eventually cotton on to. As we quite rightly point out many times the $'s in TV are in NSW, obvious place to try and grow your game. GC was just to make up the numbers and give that national perception imo. Tasmania will never have an AFL team as they know that it is too small a place to sustain a $30mill+ a year sports business, not disimiliar to why I can't see a CC or CQ team coming in next.
If Gallop had any ability we would have announced Perth and Brisbane2 expansion back in 2011 and be looking forward to welcoming them into the comp next season along with the sizeable TV $'s that would have come with it.

What's the betting if we get sub $billion the reasons trotted out will be AFL's national metro city presence and the fact they have an extra game each round?

That's all very nice but in the meantime league is about to catch up to the AFL income so neither code is going to out do the other when it comes to growth.

If the AFL had been smarter they should have gone for league's neck when league was weakest which was when AFL got the jackpot from Packer & league got half as much from the tv deal signed off by NRL under Gallop & News.

The AFL was stupid to rely on a 20 year plan. The Swans after 30 years haven't made any difference. They are top of the ladder & still can't get good ratings & have falling crowds.

The AFL should have relied on a plan of ripping league apart by buying the top 20 NRL stars plus best junior talent & then league would have fallen in a heap & probably imploded from in-fighting & bitching. Look how much just signing Folau caused.

The tv deal the ARLC is about to get would also have been halved as league with no stars & p!ssed off fans would have no ratings & no sponsors. The AFL would be miles in front right now in 2012. Instead they sunk their money into Giants & Suns.

The AFL missed its chance. Simple.

 

[cleary89]

After the union troll knew it wouldnt be long before the afl troll came in.

 

[PaddyBoy]

They haven't invested these sort of sums for today, or tommorrow. Like the investment in Swans and Lions (which I have no doubt at the time everyone in RL said was a waste of money and wouldn't be around in a few years) they are looking to 20 years+. They realise that to get the big money requires a perception of a national sport that is growing. Something we will eventually cotton on to. As we quite rightly point out many times the $'s in TV are in NSW, obvious place to try and grow your game. GC was just to make up the numbers and give that national perception imo. Tasmania will never have an AFL team as they know that it is too small a place to sustain a $30mill+ a year sports business, not disimiliar to why I can't see a CC or CQ team coming in next.
If Gallop had any ability we would have announced Perth and Brisbane2 expansion back in 2011 and be looking forward to welcoming them into the comp next season along with the sizeable TV $'s that would have come with it.

What's the betting if we get sub $billion the reasons trotted out will be AFL's national metro city presence and the fact they have an extra game each round?

The original plan was to keep a 16 team competition with North Melbourne moving to the Gold Coast for $100 million. GWS are the ones making up the numbers, not the Gold Coast.

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

Question for Doc.
How are the negotiations going,& do you still expect an AUG finalised deal?
A smiley face will do if things going well.

 

[Perth Red]

That's all very nice but in the meantime league is about to catch up to the AFL income so neither code is going to out do the other when it comes to growth.

If the AFL had been smarter they should have gone for league's neck when league was weakest which was when AFL got the jackpot from Packer & league got half as much from the tv deal signed off by NRL under Gallop & News.

The AFL was stupid to rely on a 20 year plan. The Swans after 30 years haven't made any difference. They are top of the ladder & still can't get good ratings & have falling crowds.

The AFL should have relied on a plan of ripping league apart by buying the top 20 NRL stars plus best junior talent & then league would have fallen in a heap & probably imploded from in-fighting & bitching. Look how much just signing Folau caused.

The tv deal the ARLC is about to get would also have been halved as league with no stars & p!ssed off fans would have no ratings & no sponsors. The AFL would be miles in front right now in 2012. Instead they sunk their money into Giants & Suns.

The AFL missed its chance. Simple.

your making the assumption that AFL's ultimate goal is to crush RL, i don;t believe it is,. they want to grow their pie as big as it can possibly be. To suggest having AFL teams in Sydney and Brisbane hasn't contributed to their success in growing their pie massively over the last 20 years is stupid. That would be like saying having the Melbourne Storm in the NRL has been a total failure and all those millions pumped into Victoria have been wasted as Storm can't draw a crowd. Storm have helped the NRL pie grow and will do so even more in years to come now the shackles are off. Same as perth will eventually do.

I disagree the value to the AFL is in NSW not on the GC. The GC doesn't grow the pie hardly but the GWS has the potential to do so. indeed they have stated that the expansion to these two areas added $150mill on to their latest deal.

 

[Nerd]

That's all very nice but in the meantime league is about to catch up to the AFL income so neither code is going to out do the other when it comes to growth.

If the AFL had been smarter they should have gone for league's neck when league was weakest which was when AFL got the jackpot from Packer & league got half as much from the tv deal signed off by NRL under Gallop & News.

The AFL was stupid to rely on a 20 year plan. The Swans after 30 years haven't made any difference. They are top of the ladder & still can't get good ratings & have falling crowds.

The AFL should have relied on a plan of ripping league apart by buying the top 20 NRL stars plus best junior talent & then league would have fallen in a heap & probably imploded from in-fighting & bitching. Look how much just signing Folau caused.

The tv deal the ARLC is about to get would also have been halved as league with no stars & p!ssed off fans would have no ratings & no sponsors. The AFL would be miles in front right now in 2012. Instead they sunk their money into Giants & Suns.

The AFL missed its chance. Simple.

Disagree. If AFL bought every NRL first grader I would still rather watch the QLD cup than AFL.

 

[Perth Red]

After the union troll knew it wouldnt be long before the afl troll came in.

Here we go:roll:

 

[Canard]

I don't criticize League any more than anyone else on this forum and usually more constructively than some passionate Union haters when I do. I also have a lot of positive things to say about League. Some twits just can't get past the fact I also like Union. I understand the reasons for it, I just think they're peurile and childish.

You call league players and supporters champions and Neanderthals and bag the shit out us over on your private school boys Union website mate, don't play that "Im above it all" bullshit here. (PS the LU spellchecker changes mung to champions)

 

[docbrown]

http://www.businessspectator.com.au...ne-bid-pd20120612-V7QNF?OpenDocument&src=hp11

WIN Television founder Bruce Gordon has expressed interest in Nine Entertainment Co as Nine scrambles to address its looming debt problem, according to a report by The Australian Financial Review.
Mr Gordon, a 14 per cent stakeholder in Ten Network Ltd, has yet to sign a non-disclosure agreement permitting due diligence on Nine, but he has begun work with advisers at KPMG and is seeking discussions with Nine's owners, CVC Asia Pacific, about a possible deal, the report said.
Mr Gordon becomes just the latest party rumoured to be interested in Nine, with Hollywood mogul Harry Sloan, private equity firm Blackstone and Telstra also said to have expressed interest.
CVC is seeking a solution that would allow Nine to repay $2.8 billion to senior lenders and another $1 billion to mezzanine or second-tier debt holders, though such a deal may be unlikely, according to the AFR.

Not the first time Gordon has perked up on Nine but considering WIN pays 9 $150 million a year in licensing it's got some synergy to it.

I find it amusing though that little brother may end up owning big brother...

 

[Chook Norris]

Actually on average NRL fans are richer than Union fans.

Is there actually any evidence proving that though

 

[docbrown]

Can't find the other survey. Must've been taken down.

 

[skeepe]

Guaranteed live HD coverage is an absolute must. This grainy shit can't continue. The long shots look like screenshots from ET's Rugby League.