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The TV rights thread part II

Providing the price is right which is your preferred FTA broadcast option?

  • All games on Seven

    Votes: 11 4.2%
  • All games on Nine

    Votes: 17 6.5%
  • All games on Ten

    Votes: 59 22.6%
  • Seven/Nine split

    Votes: 10 3.8%
  • Seven/Ten split

    Votes: 109 41.8%
  • Nine/Ten split

    Votes: 55 21.1%

  • Total voters
    261
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BDGS

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Gallop is the figure head for the NRL board, if you gonna blame anybody you should be hating on the current NRL board not the figure head.

That fact that we are getting rid of that board and going to to an IC is should be great a thing for those supporters that do this. But they don't, they just start bitching about who is on the IC. Moaners and whingers, and unfortunately these are league fans.
 
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Gallop is the figure head for the NRL board, if you gonna blame anybody you should be hating on the current NRL board not the figure head.

That fact that we are getting rid of that board and going to to an IC is should be great a thing for those supporters that do this. But they don't, they just start bitching about who is on the IC. Moaners and whingers, and unfortunately these are league fans.

Do you have any idea how business organisations work?

Any idea at all?
 

andrew057

First Grade
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NRL 'deserves' huge cash from TV deal

  • Richard Clune and Jessica Hallora


THE NRL is set to score close to a billion dollars when it renegotiates the sale of its broadcast rights thanks to Lachlan Murdoch's love of the game and Nine boss David Gyngell's determination to retain rugby league at any cost.

And firing a pointed salvo at Network Ten - where Mr Murdoch remains interim CEO - and commercial rival Channel Seven, Mr Gyngell told The Sunday Telegraph that Nine would "not be losing the rights" in the pending broadcast negotiations for the 2013-2017 seasons.

"Nine is happy to pay more for rugby league because it's the greatest game of all," Mr Gyngell said. "And not only is it the greatest game of all, but it deserves the extra money."

As the current rights holder, Nine sits in the box seat with first and last refusal. Nine screens three weekly matches, State Of Origin and international games, while Foxtel airs five season games per week.

Ten's expected bid for at least one weekly NRL game is attached to Mr Murdoch's staunch support of the sport, his association with NRL boss David Gallop and his network's decision last week to opt out of AFL broadcasting from the end of this season. A Ten source said: "No one knows where we stand at the moment and what will happen.

"The [independent rugby league] commission is still not finalised and it's a real guessing game. It seems unlikely that we'll entertain an NRL bidding war - but it's TV ... you never say never."

Meanwhile, Kerry Stokes' Channel Seven will make a play for the lucrative sport despite failing to on-sell AFL to Ten, meaning it now has to find timeslots for four AFL games a weekend, filling its schedule.

Seven spokesman Simon Francis said: "We've been clear on this for some time. David Leckie loves league.

"Seven first broadcast league in 1964 with Rex Mossop and we had a 20-year partnership with this great game. We would love to be back and we'll be involved in the negotiations for the television rights for NRL."

Under the new AFL deal, Seven gains extra ad revenue via Foxtel's simulcast AFL broadcasts - to include 75 per cent of "Seven" commercials.

NRL boss David Gallop has already held informal meetings with "all parties" and said he felt "heartened" by Mr Gyngell's words.

"I have spoken to all the commercial networks again this week and they are aware that once the flag drops, the race will be on to acquire our rights," Gallop said.

"That's very encouraging, particularly coming from the boss of Channel Nine.

"We expect major increases across all our platforms.

"Anyone who is not prepared to stump up may find themselves with less rugby league content.

"And the way the game is producing ratings at the moment, you would be mad not to be part of it.

"We are not putting a figure on it - but we are certainly aware the market is buoyant and that our sport is highly sought-after."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ash-from-tv-deal/story-e6freuy9-1226081943183


Good talk.
 

docbrown

Coach
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Nice to see Gyngell officially singing the tune.

Of course they'll still try to get it as cheaply as possible but at least it's an admission of how much money Rugby League generates for 9.
 

aarondoyle

Juniors
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Do I believe what I'm reading? A very positive RL story. Now we just need people talking up that we'll get "well over" $1billion. See if we can get a bidding frenzy going.
 

ashton

Juniors
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Nice to see Gyngell officially singing the tune.

Of course they'll still try to get it as cheaply as possible but at least it's an admission of how much money Rugby League generates for 9.

And where is channel 9 going to get the money from????????
 

docbrown

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the same place they were going to get money to buy AFL

Indeed.

Keep in mind that 9's plan was to hopefully bid for both, pick the best and then offsell some.

If 9 puts in a weak $300-$350 million first bid then it's $360-$420 million for the rights to be split - and that counter bid can then also include a bid for a 4th game and expanded representative season which changes 9's whole strategy.

Even if 9 came out of the blocks with a large $400 million bid - which is unlikely to happen (but honestly they really need to) - then I wouldn't put it past 7 or a combination of 7 & 10 to drive that upwards even another $80 million even then again to break the ownership and/or just to keep 9 out of the other rights markets.

That said how much Premier Group pursues simulcasts will affect all this.

My suspicion ever since hearing about the meetings with Gallop is that Murdoch is actually going to get Premier to underwrite a major portion of the 10 bid in order to get their simulcasting rights. 10 would then repay them with a higher percentage of the ad sharing arrangements - just enough so that 10 still makes a profit in the first two years of the broadcast deal. 10 would then be banking on league's halo in order to help them build overall audiences for the network and increase their market share which then sets them up for years 3-5 of the deal.

10 will definitely make more money by simulcasting Rugby League with Foxtel than they have with sharing fumbleball with 7 & Foxtel.
 

Brutus

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Given Foxtel's recent murmuring about how little it plans to give rugby league, it may be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than an NRL player to become rich, let alone enter the gates of heaven.

Read it again peoples...
 

Ray Mosters

Juniors
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Given Foxtel's recent murmuring about how little it plans to give rugby league, it may be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than an NRL player to become rich, let alone enter the gates of heaven.

Read it again peoples...
Don't panic yet, "industry sources" (all of them from the broadcaster side) said that the AFL wouldn't get more than 800 million, and they were off by a mere 450 million.

Expect the broadcasters to play down the cost very hard, and all the way to the very end.
 

El Diablo

Post Whore
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Given Foxtel's recent murmuring about how little it plans to give rugby league, it may be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than an NRL player to become rich, let alone enter the gates of heaven.

Read it again peoples...

as if Roy has a clue

stop fretting
 

El Diablo

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Don't panic yet, "industry sources" (all of them from the broadcaster side) said that the AFL wouldn't get more than 800 million, and they were off by a mere 450 million.

Expect the broadcasters to play down the cost very hard, and all the way to the very end.

Masters was that far off in the AFL rights he deserves ignoring

he has nfi
 

bluesbreaker

Bench
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Wait 5 years, tell news ltd to get f**ked.

Or do it "now", let them pick our CEO, 2 of the 8 commissioners and extend their 'first and last' rights to our product until 2027...

Does first and last rights mean that they can accept the first bid put in by Foxtel/Channel 9 like last time, and it won't go to tender at all? This is my biggest fear and fretting about it seems fair enough.

I don't give a f**k what "industry insiders" said about AFL or NRL or professional precision carrot chopping for that matter. But if I look into the recent history of our game, it's not hard to come to the conclusion that we're on the road to getting f**ked again.
 

El Diablo

Post Whore
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Wait 5 years, tell news ltd to get f**ked.

Or do it "now", let them pick our CEO, 2 of the 8 commissioners and extend their 'first and last' rights to our product until 2027...

Does first and last rights mean that they can accept the first bid put in by Foxtel/Channel 9 like last time, and it won't go to tender at all? This is my biggest fear and fretting about it seems fair enough.

I don't give a f**k what "industry insiders" said about AFL or NRL or professional precision carrot chopping for that matter. But if I look into the recent history of our game, it's not hard to come to the conclusion that we're on the road to getting f**ked again.

forget last time as that had nothing to with first and last rights. The NRL signed early and did not let it go to a bidding war. 7 had requested they not do this.

Sse Seven seeks chance to bid for NRL rights
 
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Frailty

First Grade
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'First and Last' Rights just mean NRL will have the first and last opportunity to put bids in. Essentially it doesn't limit the NRLs opportunity to gain a higher value from a rival network, but means that it must always go to Channel 9 and say 'do you want to bid higher'.
 

El Diablo

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'First and Last' Rights just mean NRL will have the first and last opportunity to put bids in. Essentially it doesn't limit the NRLs opportunity to gain a higher value from a rival network, but means that it must always go to Channel 9 and say 'do you want to bid higher'.

or match it

7 had first and last rights when 9 bid $780 mill for the AFL rights. All they had to do was match the dollars and terms
 
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