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The TV rights thread part II

Providing the price is right which is your preferred FTA broadcast option?

  • All games on Seven

    Votes: 11 4.2%
  • All games on Nine

    Votes: 17 6.5%
  • All games on Ten

    Votes: 59 22.6%
  • Seven/Nine split

    Votes: 10 3.8%
  • Seven/Ten split

    Votes: 109 41.8%
  • Nine/Ten split

    Votes: 55 21.1%

  • Total voters
    261
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docbrown

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I have a bit of a hangover from last night but I met with a Fox Sports exec and a few others and have some pretty damn interesting news that I will share shortly.
 

docbrown

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Alcohol leads to the most illuminating conversations. It's remembering them that is the problem ......

Well one thing I can mention now whilst it's in my head is that it was never Foxsport's original intention to have an AFL Channel, that it was merely a fake bargaining tool that they employed against the AFL to get what they wanted and I have it on pretty good authority that once the current contract ends it will be scrapped entirely. :lol:

All the suckers that sign up are going to be crying in 5 years. :lol:
 
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LESStar58

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If this is the truth, it will be both a first for Ritchie and a great thing for the game.

Ten need it. They're shit and always have been.

Whats that wanker Quartermain and his pencil necked little ferrett mate Anthony Hudson up to these days now that Ten don't do the AFL?

Polishing knobs at AFL HQ?

The majority of personalities involved in AFL coverage on Ten are deplorable but you've hit the nail on the head. Quartermain is the worst with Brad Mcewan not far behind.....
 

CC_Roosters

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Just a thought that may or may not have been brought up before. Would it be possible to have the games which are shown on FTA in NSW and QLD simulcast on Fox nationally but with a blackout applied for NSW and QLD?

That would be a sort of half way house from us wanting all games broadcast nationally live and the large and seemingly unlikely step of FTA channels, especially 9 having to broadcast the NRL nationally on secondary channels.
 

docbrown

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As I said on another thread, this 3 month period is the time that the NRL needs to be putting pressure on 9. 9 have the weaker stand point. When a Melbourne game is blacked out it needs to be slapped back in their face. Whenever coverage is of a poor quality it needs to be thrown back at them.

Forcing Nine to concede points now like better coverage standards means they won't expect to reduce their bid (see what happens if they try). In turns this means the other networks are likewise obliged to provide a level of service that the NRL demands - also for no fee reduction - because Nine have already agreed to do it and to compete at tender they need to match it.

I still haven't confirmed one Foxtel thing but I can confirm one thing - problem the subject that been scrutinised the most on here - and that's the first and last rights that Channel 9 have.

Apparently Premier Group are "supremely confident" that they have a legal standpoint based on the original contract wording to conject that 9's first bid is required to breakdown the individual components that make up the summary i.e. 9 can't just say $500,000,000 for the lot - they are required to specifically break down which money is for which component and for what degree of coverage upon request from the NRL - which the NRL have requested both 9 & Fox Sports already do.

What this means for example is that Friday Night Football Double Header will have a specific valuation attached to it. If 10 were to come in and bid 20% more for that specific component then 9 no long control the "last rights" for the component.

I'm waiting for another confirmation on this but the words that were specifically used were "supremely confident".

This is the game changer.
 
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As I said on another thread, this 3 month period is the time that the NRL needs to be putting pressure on 9. 9 have the weaker stand point. When a Melbourne game is blacked out it needs to be slapped back in their face. Whenever coverage is of a poor quality it needs to be thrown back at them.

Forcing Nine to concede points now like better coverage standards means they won't expect to reduce their bid (see what happens if they try). In turns this means the other networks are likewise obliged to provide a level of service that the NRL demands - also for no fee reduction - because Nine have already agreed to do it and to compete at tender they need to match it.

I still haven't confirmed one Foxtel thing but I can confirm one thing - problem the subject that been scrutinised the most on here - and that's the first and last rights that Channel 9 have.

Apparently Premier Group are "supremely confident" that they have a legal standpoint based on the original contract wording to conject that 9's first bid is required to breakdown the individual components that make up the summary i.e. 9 can't just say $500,000,000 for the lot - they are required to specifically break down which money is for which component and for what degree of coverage upon request from the NRL - which the NRL have requested both 9 & Fox Sports already do.

What this means for example is that Friday Night Football Double Header will have a specific valuation attached to it. If 10 were to come in and bid 20% more for that specific component then 9 no long control the "last rights" for the component.

I'm waiting for another confirmation on this but the words that were specifically used were "supremely confident".

This is the game changer.

Never thought of the rights being "Individual components".I think nearly all on here thought it would have to be a straight out 20% higher bid than 9 for what 9 has now,to break them up into individual components.
Very interesting & once again Doc,very much appreciated .
 

docbrown

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Never thought of the rights being "Individual components".I think nearly all on here thought it would have to be a straight out 20% higher bid than 9 for what 9 has now,to break them up into individual components.
Very interesting & once again Doc,very much appreciated .

So had I actually but I susect we were all repeating simply because Nine were adamant about it whereas the NRL had always said "no we can break them up if we want".

As it was explained to me LEK's legal has found a "loophole" requring bidding parties to make specific bids for the specific properties and that the 20% refers not to whole but to the specific individual properties. If any one property is outbid then 9 lost the last bid rights over that property turning it into a blind auction.

Of course 9 are going to dispute it but LEK have informed Premier Group of this and they wouldn't have done that unless they were 100% certain they could back it up in court.
 

Dogs Of War

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I suppose we also have new items such as Monday night football, Toyota Cup and the All Stars game, none of which existed the last time the rights were up for grabs. How does that change things? Or would all these items be considered a free for all?
 

docbrown

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why would PMG care as they can't bid for Origin or FNF?

Of course they can bid for FNF. It's only a minimum number of games must be maintained on free to air. Time slots and simulcasting are irrelevant. It's the NRL's decision as to which timeslots are best shown and where, the government is only concerned about minimum free to air coverage rather than total subscription restrictions.

It also says nothing about PMG being forbidden from simulcasting Origin.
 
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