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The TV rights thread part II

Providing the price is right which is your preferred FTA broadcast option?

  • All games on Seven

    Votes: 11 4.2%
  • All games on Nine

    Votes: 17 6.5%
  • All games on Ten

    Votes: 59 22.6%
  • Seven/Nine split

    Votes: 10 3.8%
  • Seven/Ten split

    Votes: 109 41.8%
  • Nine/Ten split

    Votes: 55 21.1%

  • Total voters
    261
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Gippsy

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Win Albury does, but only covers a very small section of North East Victoria.

True, as far as I know Win Albury is the only place in Vic. that shows the games at the same time as NSW.

Win in Gippsland (from Traralgon I think) has showed some of the finals games live but is hopeless throughout the season.
 

bobmar28

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What's your point? Nbn or nein do not show games into Victoria, Tasmania, wa or sa at reasonable times. Think of all the businesses not willing to pay dollars to advertise in these areas.

Get the blinkers off. Ronny is a league fan. I am a league fan. But we know o look at weaknesses in order to find solutions. A sport beIng shown in 30 regions to 1 millions peoPle will earn more then a show being shown in 15 regions to 1.3 million.

We need a deal that gets our sport shown aus wide at reasonable times in Order to grow. And if I means getting a little less from someone Other then 9 to do it then it is worth the hit in the short term.

Why not just force nine to show the game at a reasonable time on their digital channel in the southern states? Why accept less?
 

El Diablo

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http://www.canberratimes.com.au/new...s-the-region-but-win-tops-in-act/2379965.aspx

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Rugby league helped keep WIN on top in Canberra, where half of the year's 10 highest-rating programs were NRL or State of Origin telecasts.

WIN claimed the capital's most-watched show overall (the NRL grand final) and the most-watched drama (Underbelly Razor).

WIN's offshoot GO! and Southern Cross Ten's Eleven tied as Canberra's most popular digital channels, each recording a 4.6 per cent share of nightly viewing.

The ABC's four-channel network share of 20.7 per cent in Canberra was much higher than its national average (15.8), which was down on its 2010 result (16.9).

Media analyst Steve Allen, managing director of Sydney-based Fusion Strategy, said Seven's hit Australian content was finally paying off for Prime7.

''Seven generally has two, three or four powerhouse productions every week of the official survey year,'' Mr Allen said.

''They have been building this cache of local productions since 2004.''

Rugby league underpinned the ratings of Nine and its regional affiliates.

''In NSW and Queensland NRL is all-important,'' Mr Allen said. ''The minute this is off ratings and share for Nine drop down.''
 

Billythekid

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That's weird. Rugby League dominates the Canberra market and i don't see any AFL game there (including the GF). Judging by the way money is allocated you could have been forgiven for thinking AFL was the number 1 sport.

If anything this shows that RL is even far ahead of rugby union in Canberra.
 

ParraEelsNRL

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That's weird. Rugby League dominates the Canberra market and i don't see any AFL game there (including the GF). Judging by the way money is allocated you could have been forgiven for thinking AFL was the number 1 sport.

If anything this shows that RL is even far ahead of rugby union in Canberra.

Anyone who has lived around the ACT area knows where union ranks.

It's only union trolls that think it's the biggest code in Canberra, it's no where near RL.
 

Raiderdave

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oh... make no mistake
my home town & the region near it ... is a Rugby League stronghold

toffs will be spluttering their bollinger out all over the persian shag rug re this
delusional flogball fans who will tell you a survey a few years ago had Collington as the Capitals most popular team will be scratching their heads

so where are the Bledisloe cup games on this list ?
the tri nations games ?

where is the vicky kicky grand final on this list that involved the
" so called " most popular team down here Collins Ward ?:roll:

just imagine what the ratings would be down here if the Raiders played in an NRL Grand final

nah ... from Yass .. to Braidwood
from Crookwell to Cooma & everything in between
its prime RL real estate

toffball & singletball are not in the race
;-)
 

Yosemite Sam

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Do people actually think that floggball is taken seriously in Canberra? It's RL first daylight second, just like it is in NSW & QLD.
 

Billythekid

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Do people actually think that floggball is taken seriously in Canberra? It's RL first daylight second, just like it is in NSW & QLD.

Except if you look at government funding it's AFL first and daylight second. You even have them wanting to upgrade the oval ground just to get a few games from GWS even though they are paying for them already.
 

Raiderdave

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Except if you look at government funding it's AFL first and daylight second. You even have them wanting to upgrade the oval ground just to get a few games from GWS even though they are paying for them already.

that " Government ".. had better be enjoying its last days in office

the Raiders will demand the same level of funding as GWS & they will get it
either from the new Govt in return for the Raiders supporting them

or from the existing Govt if they want to win the next election

& the Raiders only have to trott out this TV info to get any Govt's attention ;-)
 

El Diablo

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http://afr.com/p/nrl_tackles_billion_plus_challenge_aqcR06lNhcP93PMuKnjguJ
NRL tackles $1 billion-plus challenge
PUBLISHED: 01 Dec 2011 03:01:19 | UPDATED: 05 Dec 2011 05:54:22

Rugby league executives were talking a big game at their annual two-day conference this week, touting the large, and growing, television audiences their sport attracts.

A media release distributed by the National Rugby League on Tuesday, the first day of the conference, said rugby league matches had attracted a cumulative audience of 134 million people – yes, 134 million –– on free-to-air and pay TV channels this year.

It was an odd number: TV networks, advertisers and media agencies look at average, not cumulative, audience numbers.

A cumulative audience of 134 million is a meaningless number. But it is a big number, one designed to help set the scene for the negotiations over the NRL’s 2013 to 2017 TV and online rights negotiations, which will start after the much-delayed new rugby league independent commission is set up later this month.

Nine Network and Premier Media Group, the producer of the Fox Sports pay TV channels, currently pay a combined $100 million a year for their rugby league TV rights, or $500 million over five years.

Nine pays $40 million a year and Premier, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp and James Packer’s Consolidated Media Holdings, pays $60 million. Their current contracts expire in late 2012.

In July, NRL chief executive David Gallop and Colin Smith from LEK Consulting, which is working with the NRL on the media contracts, outlined three scenarios to club chairmen and chief executives covering deals worth $200 million, $240 million and $280 million a year over five years.

Gallop has not publicly disputed the figure of $280 million a year, or $1.4 billion over five years. He is confident the NRL can achieve a big increase in the value of its TV rights, given the importance of NRL content to Nine and Premier, Seven West Media’s stated desire to buy part of the next rights deal (it wants the high-rating State of Origin games), and the big TV deal the Australian Football League stitched up earlier this year.

In April the AFL revealed a five-year, $1.25 billion agreement with Seven, Foxtel, Austar United Communications and Telstra that takes effect from January next year. The existing five-year AFL deal was worth $780 million.

If the NRL matches the 60 per cent price increase the AFL achieved, its next deal would be worth $800 million over five years – and Gallop and the new independent commission would be hung out to dry by the media and NRL club officials.

The NRL has fuelled an expectation that the next TV deal will fetch at least $1 billion, a 100 per cent increase. But is that a realistic expectation?

Few people dispute that Nine and Premier are paying too little for their NRL TV rights. There is also no doubt that News Corp’s role as a shareholder of both the NRL and Premier kept a lid on the price the latter paid for its current deal (News Corp’s part-ownership of the NRL will formally end when the new commission is set up).

Sport is a valuable property for TV networks. This week’s media release from the NRL pointed out rugby league matches accounted for four of the five most-watched sport programs on free-to-air TV this year, and 64 of the 100 most-watched programs in any genre on pay TV.

Nine’s rugby league audience increased 1.3 per cent this year, while Premier’s audience jumped 16 per cent.

Gallop said the audience numbers were “a powerful set of results”.

“As we look towards media negotiations in the months ahead, they are a reminder of rugby league’s value in the market,” he said.

If Nine agrees to a doubling of its NRL TV rights cost – and that is a big “if” – it will be paying $80 million a year, or $400 million over five years.

To reach the $1 billion figure, let alone $1.2 billion or $1.4 billion, the NRL will need to convince Premier to also agree to a 100 per cent increase, to $120 million a year or $600 million over five years.

Under their new AFL deal, Foxtel and Austar will pay $658 million – an increase of 109 per cent – for the right to show all weekly matches, plus replays of all other games.

The current Foxtel-Austar deal costs them $315 million over five years for the rights to four live weekly matches.

Premier’s existing NRL TV deals give it the right to five live matches a week. The company has indicated it wants to show all eight weekly matches, some of which would be simulcast with the free-to-air TV rights holder.

But Premier will resist a 100 per cent increase in its NRL TV rights costs. Foxtel and Austar copped a big increase in their AFL costs because they are convinced their expanded coverage will hook more subscribers in Victoria, South Australia, Western Australia and Tasmania.

The pay TV industry’s household penetration rate is lower in the southern states than in NSW and Queensland. NRL executives claim the higher rate in the northern states is largely due to Premier’s rugby league coverage and the next TV rights deal should reflect that fact – that is, Premier should be paying more for its valuable product in NSW and Queensland.

The problem for the NRL is that Premier and its shareholders are not convinced adding another three NRL games a week will produce a massive lift in subscriber numbers, certainly not a lift that would justify paying $120 million a year.

Nine is determined to retain its NRL rights. Media executives think bids from Seven and possibly Ten Network will push the price tag for Nine to $80 million a year, while Premier will pay a maximum of $100 million a year.

That would give the NRL a grand total of $900 million over five years. A good deal with Telstra, which currently pays $10 million a year for NRL online rights, might lift the total to $1 billion, which would be an impressive result, but maybe not impressive enough for some NRL officials and executives.
 

El Diablo

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...of-origin-series/story-e6frg7mf-1226213607487

Ten Network likely to bid for State of Origin series

by: Margie McDonald
From: The Australian
December 05, 2011 12:00AM


RUGBY League's hopes of securing a historic $1 billion television deal have been boosted after it emerged the Ten Network could bid for the State of Origin.

The current television rights holder, the Nine Network, has first and last option on the new five-year deal, but it is understood Ten and Seven have both expressed a more serious interest in all, or part, of the new rugby league deal.

NRL chief executive David Gallop has previously said club matches, Test and Origin games could be sold separately.

Seven has been mentioned in discussions previously, but the fact Ten is now making stronger noises makes it more likely that rugby league could be worth more than the $1.25bn the AFL secured for its new rights deal starting next year.

The NRL annual conference last week was given starting audience and ratings figures for league this year.

They showed an audience of 134 million tuned in to national free-to-air and subscription television to watch NRL, Toyota Cup, Origin, City-Country, Australia v New Zealand Tests and the Four Nations this year. This is 12 million more than for any other Australian sport, and does not include a further 12 million viewers in New Zealand.

The detailed analysis shows four of the five sporting programs of the season on free-to-air were rugby league matches, with Origin Game III being the highest-rating sports program across all codes. This year's Origin series secured the highest ratings of any campaign since the concept started in 1980.
 

Raiderdave

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the NRL should demand not a cent less from foxtel for its rights then it paid the AFL , this BS about potential subscription uptake needs to be ignored by our officials who'll represent us , as much value should be placed on a proven product & present subscribers.

if Foxtel paid 660 Million for 9 AFL games live in 2012
132 million a year for 5 years
then we should get 117 Million a year.. for however many years in the next deal we are at 8 games a week
& 132 Million for when we go to 9 .. wether that be 2014 or 2015

4 FTA games a week should be going for 80 million a year
( including Monday night being on FTA along with foxtel)
& we are at approx 1.06 Billion

the Rep season ( SOO , all internationals . All stars .. city country ) should attract another 20 million a year
1.116 Billion
Telstra .. another 20 Million a year for online rights
1.216 Billion
NZ TV ... 20 Million a year

1.316 Billion ova 5 years
now thats what I'm talking about ..............;-)
 
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