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The TV rights thread

Who would you like to see get the rights providing the price is right?

  • Seven

    Votes: 57 20.5%
  • Nine

    Votes: 49 17.6%
  • Ten

    Votes: 110 39.6%
  • Rights split between FTA channels

    Votes: 147 52.9%

  • Total voters
    278
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docbrown

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Is this true?

Surely the emergence of such programs a Better Homes & Gardens would have had a bigger influence for the Australia -wide audience.

Sunday News for sure, just like the NRL does for 9 in NSW & QLD.

If the AFL forced Channel 7 to broadcast games at 3pm LIVE - they would get hammered on the main channel up here - so it'd then have to go on 7 Mate or a similar digital channel.

If the NRL are smart, they'll bring in back to back games on a Sunday afternoon, either from 1pm to 5pm on 10 or 2pm to 6pm on 7/9.

If there are 4 QLD teams in the comp, you can:

a) Start with the panel shows as a lead in - similar to NFL in the US
b) Have 4 sets of fans watching 2 games - rather than 2 watching 1 - resulting in million plus audience
c) Guarantee 1 QLD team & boost the QLD audience
d) Guarantee at least 1 NSW team or NSW derby
e) Have Perth or Melbourne involved, to boost the appeal in a 3rd capital

If it's broadcast on digital in the Southern States and on the Main in the North - it could regularly pull 0.9 to 1.4 million nationally combined - times 4 hours. That's big for an afternoon slot.

As the AFL are unlikely to do a 12pm-6pm sunday arvo double header game any time soon (I'm not sure how many people could sit through that), the NRL would smash it week in week out.

Then at 12pm or 6pm there would be a Foxtel game live.

In the long run, the NRL needs to look at also bringing in a 5th F2A game (when we go to a 20 team competition) shown on a Saturday either as a news lead-in or news follow-on.

But Sunday Afternoon is the big advantage we have to seize upon immediately - and what they should be going to the networks with.
 
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El Diablo

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...or-nrl-in-tv-rights-fight-20101230-19b6s.html

Devil in the detail for NRL in TV rights fight
Glenn Jackson
December 31, 2010

AN ASTERISK has the potential to dilute the NRL's gain from the critical next broadcasting rights package, according to the man who is attempting to help rugby league officials negotiate a billion-dollar deal.

Colin Smith, the consultant who helped the AFL secure $780 million from its last television rights deal and has now been assigned the job of aiding the NRL in bettering its rival this time around, admitted the fine print in the federal government's anti-siphoning legislation would be of some concern to league administrators.

Federal Communications Minister Stephen Conroy is yet to announce his department's clarification on a critical area of the new anti-siphoning laws, which will take effect on New Year's Day. The new regulations have removed five of eight NRL matches a week from the list, a potential boon for the code. The AFL will have a similar deal in place, for four of its matches a week.

The devil might be in the detail - the fine print declared that ''the government will not delist any NRL or AFL games until a mechanism which protects the quality of free-to-air games has been settled''.

While certain the NRL's next deal will be significantly more than the existing $500 million contract, which runs out at the end of 2012, Smith did concede the NRL and AFL would be concerned by the ''mechanism''. In essence, the government is yet to decide who will pick the matches - the NRL or the broadcasters - and how they do it.

There were some fears the federal government, keen to ensure the best matches are on free-to-air TV, might opt to choose which matches are broadcast by the free-to-air rights holder, although that appears to have been ruled out. ''It's a concern for both the AFL and the NRL,'' said Smith, the principal adviser of L.E.K. Consultancy's sports, gaming, media and entertainment division. ''The challenge is in terms of how that 'mechanism' works. It could affect the value of those rights.''

Smith, who addressed the club chief executives during the recent CEOs conference in Byron Bay, said he expected there would be ''some sort of consistent mechanism across the two codes'', allaying any fears the AFL would be advantaged by the laws, which were announced last month. In fact, Smith said, because of the growing popularity of rugby league as a television sport - the massive numbers generated by State of Origin give the NRL better cumulative audience figures than its rival across free-to-air and pay-TV - NRL bosses still held a solid footing.

NRL powerbrokers, who have already foreshadowed bundling up different portions of the sport - representative fixtures, NRL rounds and finals - are expected to at least try to start their negotiations in parallel with the AFL. NRL chief executive David Gallop has been involved in constant dialogue with the government about the mechanisms, and has pushed for some sort of closure on the issue around the same time as the AFL, even though the AFL rights deals expire a year earlier, at the end of 2011.

It is likely the first, second and fifth-best NRL games will again be shown on free-to-air. The mechanism will decide who comes up with those selections and how. Senator Conroy recently stated that until the quality assurance guarantees were agreed, ''all games of AFL and NRL will remain listed events, preventing their acquisition by a pay-TV licence holder''.

The subcommittee of club chief executives, who have been preparing for the negotiations, is due to meet in early February. One of them told the Herald that the NRL would likely be in serious discussions with network executives in the next four to six months. The NRL will be desperate to secure a far bigger windfall than its last deal, with the code under siege in recent years from rugby union and now AFL for its best talent. With a $4.2m salary cap for each club, the NRL is unable to compete with its rivals when it comes to paying top dollar for its superstars. A significant increase in the broadcast deal will change that.
 

El Diablo

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...-broadcast-deals/story-e6frg8zx-1225978976736

It's TV dollars versus internet cents when it comes to broadcast deals

* James Chessell
* From: The Australian
* December 31, 2010 12:00AM

THE review of V8 Supercars' ownership structure is a timely reminder that it is going to be a busy 2011 for sports broadcast rights.

The AFL needs to get cracking on a new television deal (the five-year contract with Seven and Ten expires at the end of next year) once the federal government finally decides on a mechanism to divide games between free-to-air and pay-TV.

Then there's the NRL which will enter uncharted territory next year when it begins negotiations on a new TV deal with an independent commission in place.

All up, Goldman Sachs media analyst Christian Guerra and his team estimate that there are $2 billion in sports rights due for renewal by 2014 when you include cricket, soccer and the Australian Open tennis.

There are a couple of points that can be made ahead of what will no doubt be bucketloads of highly excited speculation over the various deals next year.

First, don't listen to sledging among the FTA networks over the two big football codes. Unless something completely left-field happens, the status quo will be maintained: Seven and Ten will keep the AFL, and Nine will retain the NRL.

Second, for all the talk about online rights, both forms of TV will again dominate proceedings. It is true the fledgling internet television industry is growing and this will be accelerated by the National Broadband Network.

But the federal government has done internet broadcasters no favours with its recent changes to the anti-siphoning laws governing sports broadcasting. This means no new entrant could justify a bid that would disrupt the established networks and Foxtel on any sensible financial basis.

Online broadcasting may be the future but no sporting body is keen to swap television dollars for digital cents. And that's all internet broadcasters can afford to pay for the time being.

The NBN will gradually change the marketplace but it will take years. And even then the established online players could well be a Telstra-backed Foxtel, Nine, Seven and Ten. (News Limited, publisher of The Australian, owns 25 per cent of Foxtel).
 

applesauce

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Judging by all this talk of a "mechanism" and it not be in place yet and taking away some value of the deals... Does that mean we are planning not to let the network choose matches this time???
 

Serc

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The focus on the NBN in the article is odd...given a quite large percentage of people already have access to decent broadband. Its not like this response is common when you say to others "there's a video on youtube on it" "oh, my internet is too crap, can't do that"
 

docbrown

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Does that mean we are planning not to let the network choose matches this time???

There's pressure from inside the government to avoid sole network control - so more teams get airtime.

I doubt an independant arbiter would be workable - so best guess - the game ranking will be decided on by three parties - NRL, F2A & Pay TV - to try and counterbalance one another.
 
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docbrown

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The focus on the NBN in the article is odd...given a quite large percentage of people already have access to decent broadband. Its not like this response is common when you say to others "there's a video on youtube on it" "oh, my internet is too crap, can't do that"

Given the NBH is 5-10 years late already, it's no surprise that the government has a poor understanding of the technology.

The internet and television are going to merge over the next two decades, just watch.
 

Perth Red

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big difference between watching some 320 you tube clip and live HD sport. We still don't have the band width to vast majority of the country to cover 720 let alone 1080 live sport on internet. Hopefully the Govt's broadband network will change all that but as the article says it won't be till the next deal in 2018 that it becomes a factor.
 

applesauce

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big difference between watching some 320 you tube clip and live HD sport. We still don't have the band width to vast majority of the country to cover 720 let alone 1080 live sport on internet. Hopefully the Govt's broadband network will change all that but as the article says it won't be till the next deal in 2018 that it becomes a factor.

Well the NBA can do it somehow form over in the USA.

I have LeaguePass (and can watch any NBA, anytime in HD) my internet isn't the greatest and just loads my 360 youtube clips in time to keep up with the playing of them. But i can watch HD NBA game for 2hours no worries, LIVE from the USA.

If the NRL did something simliar then I don't see how it could be any slower than video streamed from the US.

Yep!

That T-Box thing seems to be just the beginning

Google TV will come to Australia when we get the NBN (at the moment it is too slow for mass usage).

http://www.google.com/tv/

It will change the internet and tv forever like Google has in the last 10years.
 
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thommo4pm

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Why not? If they pay the most money then so be it.

Still struggling to understand the agenda AGAINST Nine.

Compare the treatment Nine gives Rugby League Australia wide to that which 7/10 gives the AFL Australia wide.
 
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