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if tim can't get a blues jersey on the back of that performance he'll never get one
I won't hammer you (although you deserve it!!)
But 22 runs for 209m is an outstanding game for a guy like Steve Price or Petro Civoniceva - to do that in 41 minutes off the bench is freakishly good.
The only other guy in the MoM equation was Hayne - who looked dangerous every time he handled/ passed/ ran.
i liked how they used mannah as first run from the scrum, his leg drive and quick play the balls are crucial to us mounting an attacking raid!
As done either for a laugh or as a piece of certified tactical genius (afterall it has my stamp of approval ;-)) if we get a centrefield scrum we should pack in Inu/Grothe/Mortimer/etc as props and run a split backline with Timmy as the left centre and Fui as the right. Force the defence to man mark two devastating ball runners.
It'd be worth it purely for the image of the two props lining up in the centres.
i liked how they used mannah as first run from the scrum, his leg drive and quick play the balls are crucial to us mounting an attacking raid!
As done either for a laugh or as a piece of certified tactical genius (afterall it has my stamp of approval ;-)) if we get a centrefield scrum we should pack in Inu/Grothe/Mortimer/etc as props and run a split backline with Timmy as the left centre and Fui as the right. Force the defence to man mark two devastating ball runners.
It'd be worth it purely for the image of the two props lining up in the centres.
They are a massive prop rotation (best in the comp with out a doubt IMO) but they all have good lateral movement and are fairly quick.
Poore's the only one I'd call a 'big' front rower.
Cayless has always been one of the smallest in the game, while Moimoi and Mannah are both average sized.
Cayless 185cm 106kg
MoiMoi 183cm 109kg
Mannah 184cm 107kg
Poore 188cm 108kg
None of them are tall - but how are they not big?
I haven't really kept up with the 'size' of front rowers lately, but I'd assume anyone over 105kgs is heading into the upper end of prop size?
At worst none of them are the pint sized props we've been treated to over the last 10 years!
Poore's the only one I'd call a 'big' front rower.
Cayless has always been one of the smallest in the game, while Moimoi and Mannah are both average sized.
All 4 are between 106 and 109kgs so not much difference. Big enough to be a decent prop, but not too big so that they can still be very mobile. Perfect mix. 105kg to 110 is ideal for a prop. Wouldn't want em any bigger, wouldn't want em too much smaller.
Yeah... mobility is the key in a modern props game.
What is going to be like in 20 years time.... 115 to 120kg mobile props as the average size???
I don't believe those figures mate. Do Cayless and Mannah look the same size to you?
105-110 is average.
Don't forget the big-and-useless squad of 2003-2004: Pearson, Cannings, Stapleton.
Weight is a tricky thing - since some players have more muscle, some have heavier bones etc. Cayless doesn't look as small as many people say he is - his upper body is very muscular and he could well be 106 kgs. Mannah certainly has a bigger frame, and can probably add more weight through muscle as he ages.
Prove to me that 105-110 is average please. I'm not saying I think it isn't, but you just say it without any substantiation. How do you know that? (particularly when you don't know how heavy your own teams props are...)
Big and useless squad - Cannings was 114kgs, but was injured most of the time; Stapleton 101kgs; Pearson 105kgs but that doesn't matter since he was a ball player
And who was the other prop in that experiment? I forget... But Stapo and Pearson weren't as big as the current blokes.
No offense intended here mate! Just saying that the props seem to be a big bunch...