tim smith in the poo again?

[Hurriflatch]

Hell close down then entire forum

Some people speulate that Brisbane is a good team
others speculate that the Bulldogs will win the comp

 

[Nickeel]

As I posted in the Eels forum... this aired at 11:32 on Hadley's show (SOURCE: 2GB):

Email: Peter says he was at the establishment where the Parramatta Eels players were drinking last night and even though some were drinking they were not out of control. Hadley says the General Manager of the establishment has told him that several players were refused service for being too drunk. Hadley says you have to be "fully loaded" to be refused service in most pubs.

The last comment suggests Hadley is on a witchhunt. The witness' comments suggest there was not much too it.

The worrying thing in all of this, really, is that Tim Smith is implicated again. I only hope investigations show it all to be innocuous. It is really disappointing to hear these reports.

Nick

 

[The Colonel]

Can you provide a link please Nick.

 

[Leagueguy]

hurri.

the manager said they were asked to leave under the responsible serving of alcohol act.

that's the fact

Good point. So therefore it is reasonable to assume he was quite drunk. Unless the manager new about Smiths alcohol ban and refused to serve him on that basis. Seriously though, Smith being drunk isn't in dispute here is it? So given that will he now be sacked.

 

[sooperdooper]

ok i am gonna throw my hat in the ring

i dont know what happened by any means and am not jumping to conclusions until something is released...

To be barred drinks these days is very different to even 12 months ago, they have a higher standard now... i am not saying he wasnt drunk just stating the standards have across NSW.
We all know that a 'celebrity' be it a footballer gets treated harsher on this... maybe the pub was protecting him as he was drunk and punted him so he didnt get into trouble? we dont know its all up in the air until i read something from Tim or Parra... however its not good news even to get his name thrown around.... re: Clarke incident was NOTHING

 

[The Colonel]

Good point. So therefore it is reasonable to assume he was quite drunk. Unless the manager new about Smiths alcohol ban and refused to serve him on that basis. Seriously though, Smith being drunk isn't in dispute here is it? So given that will he now be sacked.

Actually what you will find that under the RSA that once one person is refused service, generally the group is - so assuming Tim was drunk isn't reasonable considering that the radio report initially suggested it was Eric Grothe who was refused service.

 

[Hindyscrack]

Wow,

I get drunk usually once a week after footy with mates...

Was anyone attacked?? Being drunk is a crime now?

 

[Hurriflatch]

Colonel: Excatly, it could've been any person in the group as I said even a person who isn't even a player but is part of the group that included Wagon, Smith and Grothe.

But as the report on the Radio said it appears that is was Grothe who was refused service but the others were just put in with him as they were part of said group.

 

[Nickeel]

Can you provide a link please Nick.

Colonel, I can't provide a link as it aired on 2GB.

Nick

 

[The Colonel]

Colonel, I can't provide a link as it aired on 2GB.

Nick

Sorry mate, I've assumed you have taken that from a website

 

[Leagueguy]

Actually what you will find that under the RSA that once one person is refused service, generally the group is - so assuming Tim was drunk isn't reasonable considering that the radio report initially suggested it was Eric Grothe who was refused service.

Tim Smith must have been drinking though. Regardless of whether he was drunk or not that is a violation of his ban. I just find it highly unlikely that we'll find out that Groethe was drinking and whoever else was there , while Tim Smith sat there totally sober.

 

[Molon Lave]

and now from www.smh.com.au

'Drunk' Eels star faces slippery slope

Email Print Normal font Large font 'Thrown out of pub' ... Parramatta's Tim Smith.
Photo: Tim Clayton
August 18, 2006 - 12:04PM

Parramatta rugby league halfback Tim Smith is at risk of being sacked by the NRL club after allegedly being thrown out of a pub for drunken behaviour last night.

Smith was warned by the club in June that he would be fined $10,000 and his contract would be in jeopardy if he was caught drinking again after several alcohol-related incidents.

Macquarie Radio today reported Smith was allegedly refused service and kicked out of a pub last night along with teammate Eric Grothe.

Smith was fined $1000 by the club for a drunken scuffle with Test cricketer Michael Clarke at a pub in Cronulla in June and agreed not to drink for the rest of the season.

He had turned up to training affected by alcohol on May 15, the same day Brian Smith quit the club as coach.

Management from the Intersection Tavern at Ramsgate in Sydney's south confirmed to Macquarie radio there had been an incident.

The tavern said after one patron was refused service, another member of the group attempted to be served and the players were asked to leave.

In an email to Macquarie radio, an eyewitness claimed the players were "drunk beyond all belief".

The eyewitness said the players were swearing and Smith was spitting on the carpet.

When the players were refused service, Grothe allegedly started banging the walls until teammate Daniel Wagon, who was reportedly well behaved, escorted him out of the pub.

In June, Parramatta chief executive Denis Fitzgerald had called an alcohol summit with players after several incidents.

Winger Jarryd Hayne was fined $1000 in June after admitting he bit a woman on the arm while intoxicated at The Roxy nightclub in Parramatta.

Fitzgerald and the club's media spokesman were unavailable for comment.

Ahhh Timmy Timmy Timmy
me thinks you can say thank you ta ta bye bye now

 

[Hurriflatch]

Tim Smith must have been drinking though. Regardless of whether he was drunk or not that is a violation of his ban. I just find it highly unlikely that we'll find out that Groethe was drinking and whoever else was there , while Tim Smith sat there totally sober.

Why not

He has been spooted at various places prior to this drinking water while the other players have had a couple of alocholic drinks.

 

[Leagueguy]

The post above quoting that article must indicate something went on involving Smith. The chances of him being totally innocent in this seem about 50 to 1.

 

[Molon Lave]

lol@Grothe banging on the walls
wtf was he on??

 

[Hurriflatch]

The post above quoting that article must indicate something went on involving Smith. The chances of him being totally innocent in this seem about 50 to 1.

and another eyewitness has claimed that the players did nothing worng (Peter whos email was read out by Hadley earlier)

While the original story claimed it was Grothe who was refused service.

 

[Leagueguy]

I'll admit I'm totally wrong if nothing happened. But I'll be quite shocked if Tim Smith wasn't even drinking. Just aside from that, is it accceptable for players to out and get really drunk on a thursday night? I mean how are they next day at training. I imagine they would do it tough and probably not get much sleep, which could even throw them out a little the day after. It just seems that as elite athletes they'd want to be at their peak leading up to a game.

 

[mickdo]

I'll admit I'm totally wrong if nothing happened. But I'll be quite shocked if Tim Smith wasn't even drinking. Just aside from that, is it accceptable for players to out and get really drunk on a thursday night? I mean how are they next day at training. I imagine they would do it tough and probably not get much sleep, which could even throw them out a little the day after. It just seems that as elite athletes they'd want to be at their peak leading up to a game.

The game isn't till Sunday...

 

[Nickeel]

As I provided earlier, here is the summary of the interview between Hadley and Fitzgerald at 12:32 on 2GB:

Hadley interviews Parramatta Eels CEO Dennis Fitzgerald. Hadley says Fitzgerald and his staff have looked at video footage from the Intersection Tavern at Ramsgate after claims were made that some Eels players were misbehaving last night. Fitzgerald says he has spoken to Eels media manager Damien Kelly and football manager Tony Zappia as well as the General Manager of the hotel. Fitzgerald says he was particularly worried about Tim Smith, given that the player agreed not to drink alcohol until the end of the season. Fitzgerald says it has been shown that Smith was not involved in any drinking or any problems. Fitzgerald says Eric Grothe and another regular were asked to leave not Smith. Fitzgerald says Grothe and the other man left with no incident. Hadley says Daniel Wagon acted very responsibly. Fitzgerald says the club will consider taking action against Grothe. Hadley asks if coach Jason Taylor gave the team a couple of days off following their excellent form. Fitzgerald says that was the case but that shouldn't excuse any player getting to an intoxicated state. Hadley asks if alcohol is such a big problem because none of the players have jobs outside of playing and training. Fitzgerald says they encourage players to study, apprenticeships or part-time work. Fitzgerald says the more players that can get involved in things like that, the situation will improve. Fitzgerald says he is disappointed that Grothe got to a stage where he was inebriated and is sure other players will be too. Hadley says the NRL need to carefully consider allegations made against NRL board member Gorden Tallis.

So there you have it.

Nick

 

[Breadman]

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