Todd Greenberg has got to go!

[Last Week]

They are only getting what they promised.

And after all they are the product, I’m more worried about the millions being squandered down at NRL headquarters.

When Smith was around we had a future fund Nek Minnit we need a bridging loan.

Oh no doubt the players and clubs deserve a huge chunk, they are definitely the product. But junior football and future proofing our product doesn't appear to be a concern for the players or clubs.

 

[hineyrulz]

Oh no doubt the players and clubs deserve a huge chunk, they are definitely the product. But junior football and future proofing our product doesn't appear to be a concern for the players or clubs.

I agree all that should be a priority, but it isn’t. I’d love to know where all the money is going???? Did the bunker cost 100m????

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

Sorry, John Grant had a thought bubble and promised clubs 130% of the salary cap without checking he had the money to do that. Tried to retreat when he was told we couldn't afford it but the greedy clubs were never going to let that happen and he had to cave to keep his job and seat on the gravy train.

How close was I?

My guess is that they went for a quick solution to get the clubs signed on, not realising that, once the salary cap negotiations began, rather than helping push down the clubs would suddenly have an incentive to see the salary cap skyrocket.

Looking back, i reckon Grant got what he actually wanted pulled that 130% offer. IIRC the clubs came back and agreed to a fixed amount; about the same as what the ARLC had originally expected to pay, but suddenly they had the Clubs behind them when they faced the players.

 

[King hit]

They are only getting what they promised.

And after all they are the product, I’m more worried about the millions being squandered down at NRL headquarters.

When Smith was around we had a future fund Nek Minnit we need a bridging loan.

What was the future we had under Dave Smith who wouldn’t know the difference between league or union?.

 

[hineyrulz]

What was the future we had under Dave Smith who wouldn’t know the difference between league or union?.

That wasn’t his job description, he wasn’t perfect but he was a hell of a lot better than the snake oil salesmen we have running the game now.

 

[King hit]

That wasn’t his job description, he wasn’t perfect but he was a hell of a lot better than the snake oil salesmen we have running the game now.

IMO under Smith we saw the NRL lose touch with the comman man. Overpricing tickets making it unaffordable and under him we changed the game to suit the soccer mums eliminating biff and shoulder chargers turning the game into what we see now.

 

[Perth Red]

Sorry, John Grant had a thought bubble and promised clubs 130% of the salary cap without checking he had the money to do that. Tried to retreat when he was told we couldn't afford it but the greedy clubs were never going to let that happen and he had to cave to keep his job and seat on the gravy train.

How close was I?

Not even close. That deal doesn't kick in until this year. The money squandering and loan requirement is over the last three years.

 

[Perth Red]

It did seem odd at the time when the months preceding the talk was all about how well the NRL was doing financially and then suddenly an audit later and they are crying poor?

The warning signs where there in 2016 annual report when they had to withdraw their investment funds and transfer to cash holdings to pay bills and still ran at a loss. The announcement in 17 that they needed a bridging loan AND a TV deal advance to make ends meet was just a follow on to the previous two years poor financial performances.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

What was the future we had under Dave Smith who wouldn’t know the difference between league or union?.

Why did he need to know the difference? Was he on the field blowing a whistle or pulling on a jersey?

His job was to build an entertainment empire. It wouldnt matter if he was selling RL or RU or f*cking pingpong, his job description would not have changed.

I dont understand this obsesion with having "RL People" running the game. RL players are brain-damaged grunts who got their job because they were especially good at running head-first into walls, why does this qualify them to run a business?

If a trady puts a nail through their hand, they go to a doctor. Sure, the old bloke on the sight might say "dont waste your time with a fancy doctor. Ive done this loads of times. Ill pull it out for ya". Sure, that guy has "real world experience", but he is also the dickhead who cant stop shooting nails into himself.

Most would agree, the trained pro is the better bet...

 

[POPEYE]

Cam Smith will soon be running the game, Toddy will probably last until then

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

IMO under Smith we saw the NRL lose touch with the comman man. Overpricing tickets making it unaffordable and under him we changed the game to suit the soccer mums eliminating biff and shoulder chargers turning the game into what we see now.

Clubs are in charge of most ticket prices, not DSmith. He did save big chunks of seats in the big events for cheap tickets, but they are snatched up very quickly being so under-priced.

As for the punch/shoulder-charge/concussion stuff, he single-handedly saved the game $millions in lawsuit payouts.

As for the game generally moving away from the common man, i would peg that more on the players whinging to the media about only getting a $10mil a year salary cap. This is meant to be the "working mans game", yet the players are going on about how their $million salaries are too small and how the junior funding is too high.

Meanwhile, the clubs are bastardizing their brands/jumpers to squeeze it for every $ they can get. Compare this to the ARLC fixing all of their logos across the game to reflect the games history and DSmith even managing to convince Telstra to let them rename the Premiership trophy.

Whose fault is it that the game is looking that working-class image? It seems to me that the ARLC are the only ones trying to salvage the games image....

 

[Perth Red]

I agree all that should be a priority, but it isn’t. I’d love to know where all the money is going???? Did the bunker cost 100m????

2016

Revenue
Broadcast $206.4mill
Other $144.1mill
Total $350.5 mill

Expenditure:

Running the NRL competition:
NRL Club Payments $160.1mill (not inc 2018> TV advance)
Running the NRL comp (refs, travel, bunker etc) $19.4mill
Player welfare $16.8mill
Event, Game and Sponsorship $72.1mill
Integrity unit $3.2mil
Total: $271.6mill

Grassroots and State funding
$59.7mill

Administration
$21.5million

Outcome $2.6million loss (2015 $8.4million loss)

So in summary as a % of expenditure:

Cost of running the NRL competition 77%
Grassroots and second tier comp funding 17%
ARLC & NRL Administration 6.1%

Source: https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/documents/nrl-annual-report-2016.pdf

 

[siv]

Clubs and players aren't greedy?

Player mangers are though

 

[Diesel]

Should Todd be somehow responsible for the culture of the NRL? He is the CEO & of a multi million dollar business but is he handing out tough enough penalties for all these off season controversies? The players have a higher profile employment than most of us so to say they are on their own time doesn’t cut it

 

[Quicksilver]

Maybe.

Put Rothfield in charge FFS. The bloke knows everything.

 

[Diesel]

He’s the official beer taster of the NRL

 

[Quicksilver]

Beer isn't strong enough for the great man.

 

[Bronco18]

For all of the NRL management’s faults, off-field behaviour is one Greenberg has the least control over.

 

[no name]

Should Todd be somehow responsible for the culture of the NRL? He is the CEO & of a multi million dollar business but is he handing out tough enough penalties for all these off season controversies? The players have a higher profile employment than most of us so to say they are on their own time doesn’t cut it

Well he did write GI a character reference for his drink driving charge.

 

[___]

Greenberg wouldn't have known anything about RL before his gig at the Dogs.

He was not a RL at all. A decent club cricketer though.

He was at the Bulldogs before he got the gig as CEO. He went from the Bulldogs to Stadium Australia Group prior to the Olympic games. While there,he maintained his relationship with the Bulldogs as they were the main tenants of ANZ. Then when the hack Malcolm Noad stepped down as CEO, Greenberg got the gig. He turned the club which was a dogs breakfast in dire straits that finished last on the ladder, into a powerhouse that finished the following season equal 1st (should've been outright first), and brought on board many big sponsors which the club dependently needed at the time.

He's a businessman, I'll give him that - but he is not up to NRL CEO standards.