Todd Greenberg has got to go!

[Walt Flanigan]

I think an argument can be made for standing him down but FMD this twit knows how to f*ck it up and make himself look like a complete moron.

Greenberg and Beattie are deadset embarrassing.

 

[Tiger5150]

Packer served his time in the small wall place, and out of the game.The guy has a degree and is a model citizen..

....and paid the victim $300,000.00 out of his own pocket.

 

[69-05-41]

Surprised that Turdy Greenberg didn't use the Chewbacca defence or argue it was "the vibe" or Mabo. Is there case law supporting what some kids from touch footy said as a defence for restraint of trade?

 

[unforgiven]

....and paid the victim $300,000.00 out of his own pocket.

Packer is an interesting one, when we signed him I was very much against the signing and have tried really hard to dislike him. After meeting him a couple of times and seeing him interact with my daughter I have really come around to him.

 

[mave]

Maybe Packer should spend some time with Todd's daughters team.
Problem solved.

 

[avocado]

Surprised that Turdy Greenberg didn't use the Chewbacca defence or argue it was "the vibe" or Mabo. Is there case law supporting what some kids from touch footy said as a defence for restraint of trade?

Todd never disappoints. What a moron.

 

[Surely]

The issue with acting on unproven allegations is it opens up the prospect of false claims from unhinged supporters

 

[avocado]

I know quite a few people that have turned away from league because of the way it’s run.
Scheduling of matches. The bunker. Certain teams getting preferential treatment. Knee jerk rule changes.
Todd has done more damage to the code than DeBellin has.

 

[taipan]

I know quite a few people that have turned away from league because of the way it’s run.
Scheduling of matches. The bunker. Certain teams getting preferential treatment. Knee jerk rule changes.
Todd has done more damage to the code than DeBellin has.

Greenberg,as did CEOs before him had faults, as we all do.The preferential argument has been going on since Arthurson ran Manly.
People turn away from sports for various reasons ,not just rugby league.
But seriously,If you believe that these off field allegations have less effect than admin decisions ,then speak to the mothers in the community.And perhaps some D/Os.

 

[Shark62]

There is a very good article by Tim Gore about this issue on The Roar today.
I don’t necessarily agree with him about JDB but I do agree with him about the ineptitude of NRL house. Worth a look.

 

[Eion]

Oh wow. Just read Todd’s evidence:
“I'm a father of a daughter who plays regularly touch football," he told the court.

"And a number of her friends have shared with me decisions they've made about the conduct of the players and why they won't participate in the sport."

Girls won’t play touch football because of the conduct of NRL players? I can understand people not going to NRL games, but to not play with your friends in a touch footy comp? What a load of crap. Absolute nonsense. Embarrassing.

 

[franklin2323]

Greenberg,as did CEOs before him had faults, as we all do.The preferential argument has been going on since Arthurson ran Manly.
People turn away from sports for various reasons ,not just rugby league.
But seriously,If you believe that these off field allegations have less effect than admin decisions ,then speak to the mothers in the community.And perhaps some D/Os.

What is the alternative? Pay hush money like AFL? Sport isn't immuned from society's issues

 

[franklin2323]

And the players who receive all the bad publicity, despite an overkeen press pushing it, don't damage the brand more?
It wasn't just one guy, it was what in the off season ? 6.
Try telling that to females looking for a sport for their kids to play, or the sponsors that are lost, or will not commit.
And the list of dramas over the offseason, had little impact, because it was really the admins fault? Sheesh.
Perhaps being tougher at least stopped more drama at grassroots growth.


In fact I agree on one point, the Broncos should never have signed the guy ,when it was also shown on CCTV footage.That is a point against Greenberg.

Press look for sensationalism ,such as this, and the Dog's end of season, and give it all the publicity because it sells papers, and the code has to pick up the pieces, because of d*ckheads, and it's apparently the admin's fault.

The poor punishments from the NRL is their fault. Their will always be issues with young people involved

 

[franklin2323]

Agreed, but lets see if he lets another crim back in after this new stance has been drawn. Again Packer and Lodge, doubt there would be many who would miss them but NRL liked the glow of being a rehabilitation organisation. But then it got to a situation where players pushed them into a corner and now the line is drawn. If he does go back on this line in future then he deserves all the flak he gets. I have no problem with an organisation learning and setting out new policy to reflect the changing environment .

No crims should ever play the game... At this stage JDB isn't guilty of anything.

What sponsor will disagree with it if it is changed to that way

 

[taipan]

What is the alternative? Pay hush money like AFL? Sport isn't immuned from society's issues

The alternative then is to let them play, with a decision hanging over their head, copping it from fans big time, women from clubs they are playing against saying they aren't going to watch them.

There is a difference ,with people who are involved with sport and have to create some sort of image for young ones.
The code with a stack of these allegations ,(not just one on the offseason) ,had to do something.Doing nothing and there would be a big walkaway from the game.
Women's groups were in meltdown over what occurred in the offseason.I have daughters champ,and I know their reaction.Mothers saying the head office too scared to show some courage.

If it was an isolated incident, with the JDB case, then fair enough, then the code has to explain why they continued to let him play.

The thing that gets me, it's all the admin's fault, nothing to do with guys who put themselves into a situation.
If a lawyer,doctor,dentist,entertainer,sports coach, clergyman, banker is charged they are stood down.They are all part of society.

Regardless of the result expected next week, either way :
If the NRL loses at least they can say well we did what we thought best for the game and the women who follow it.It means now if a player is in the same position we can't stand him down,because the law says so.Women's groups would then understand the reason.
If the NRL wins their decision is justified.

My position is, if players don't get the message now they never will, and the knockers calling them thugs will be justified in doing so.

 

[taipan]

The poor punishments from the NRL is their fault. Their will always be issues with young people involved

You see ,one minute you say the NRL gives players poor punishment.
Then when the NRL has had enough of the last off season sh*t, and hand out steep punishment you go off.

Off course there will always be issues with young people, been there mate.But an encyclopaedia full like we had in the off season?Give me a break.There is tolerance for a start and in the end there is hammer time.

 

[franklin2323]

You see ,one minute you say the NRL gives players poor punishment.
Then when the NRL has had enough of the last off season sh*t, and hand out steep punishment you go off.

Off course there will always be issues with young people, been there mate.But an encyclopaedia full like we had in the off season?Give me a break.There is tolerance for a start and in the end there is hammer time.

I think there is too many redemption stories in RL... IF JDB is found guilty he should never play the game again.

When Greenberg was at Bulldogs IF Barba wasn't swept under the carpet. He doesn't re offend and NRL is kept out of the press.

So AFL players are angels are they? Should RL pay hush money or let the courts handle it?

 

[franklin2323]

The alternative then is to let them play, with a decision hanging over their head, copping it from fans big time, women from clubs they are playing against saying they aren't going to watch them.

There is a difference ,with people who are involved with sport and have to create some sort of image for young ones.
The code with a stack of these allegations ,(not just one on the offseason) ,had to do something.Doing nothing and there would be a big walkaway from the game.
Women's groups were in meltdown over what occurred in the offseason.I have daughters champ,and I know their reaction.Mothers saying the head office too scared to show some courage.

If it was an isolated incident, with the JDB case, then fair enough, then the code has to explain why they continued to let him play.

The thing that gets me, it's all the admin's fault, nothing to do with guys who put themselves into a situation.
If a lawyer,doctor,dentist,entertainer,sports coach, clergyman, banker is charged they are stood down.They are all part of society.

Regardless of the result expected next week, either way :
If the NRL loses at least they can say well we did what we thought best for the game and the women who follow it.It means now if a player is in the same position we can't stand him down,because the law says so.Women's groups would then understand the reason.
If the NRL wins their decision is justified.

My position is, if players don't get the message now they never will, and the knockers calling them thugs will be justified in doing so.

TV ratings are up. NRL club memberships are up. Women playing are up...So where are these people leaving the game?

It needs to be sorted but zero tolerance on all convicted players has more of an affect then this will. IF JDB is found not guilty it puts more bad press on NRL anyway. Better to deal with it after the courts do

 

[gerg]

Don't know how JDB let's himself get into that situation and actually thinks it's a good idea. His partner at home expecting their first child and he's out clubbing and decides him and his cousin take an intoxicated female back to his cousins place. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

If this knee jerk reaction from the league stops these idiots from putting themselves into these stupid situations then its a win.
And I don't know why Greenberg is the one copping it here. I thought this new rule was introduced by the Commission, not Greenberg.

 

[Shark62]

TV ratings are up. NRL club memberships are up. Women playing are up...So where are these people leaving the game?

It needs to be sorted but zero tolerance on all convicted players has more of an affect then this will. IF JDB is found not guilty it puts more bad press on NRL anyway. Better to deal with it after the courts do

Tv ratings are flat actually.
And the level of sponsorship and good will media stories our major competitor is getting from its women’s Comp leaves us for dead.
And whether the afl pays hush money or not is irrelevant. You are yelling at a cloud. Perception is everything and JDB running around on weekends will hurt the image of the game enormously.
I have no sympathy at all for him.