Top five fullbacks in the NRL

[TruSaint]

Yeh fair enough mate. Sometimes I'm a bit hard on Duges and our attack has many more problems than just Dugan. Guess it all stems from the fact he's the star of our team so expectations are high.

Seriously I wouldn't swap him for anyone but as long as our team is winning, wouldn't care if he played prop

Still have high hopes for him at centre.

:thumb

Agree buddy

 

[Vasilevsky]

What good are metres and tackle breaks if you're not scoring points or winning games? Dugan can run for 1000 metres a game, it's meaningless unless you're scoring points and winning.

Manly have us beat in both the last 5 years and Stewart has been a big part of that.

You mean to say Manly have finished ahead of the Dragons for the past 5 years?

I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and guess you live in a parallel universe, not that you are deluding yourself. In this universe the Dragons beat Manly last season. In the 4 before that Manly did beat us but for 3 of those there is going to be an asterisks saying "*supercoach Price era" in the record books.

And Blake Ferguson for one is much better than Jennings.

 

[Shadow Dragon]

Vasilevsky

Straight shooter

 

[Vasilevsky]

Vasilevsky

Straight shooter

I do my best.

Straight shooter

 

[BennyV]

You mean to say Manly have finished ahead of the Dragons for the past 5 years?

I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and guess you live in a parallel universe, not that you are deluding yourself. In this universe the Dragons beat Manly last season. In the 4 before that Manly did beat us but for 3 of those there is going to be an asterisks saying "*supercoach Price era" in the record books.

And Blake Ferguson for one is much better than Jennings.

Who is better out of Jenning and Fingerson is debateable, but neither is 'much better' than the other.

 

[giboz71]

Who is better out of Jenning and Fingerson is debateable, but neither is 'much better' than the other.

And Ferguson is likely to play FB this year.

 

[giboz71]

You mean to say Manly have finished ahead of the Dragons for the past 5 years?

I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and guess you live in a parallel universe, not that you are deluding yourself. In this universe the Dragons beat Manly last season. In the 4 before that Manly did beat us but for 3 of those there is going to be an asterisks saying "*supercoach Price era" in the record books.

And Blake Ferguson for one is much better than Jennings.

Mate the original question was whether Brett Stewart is an elite fullback. I provided evidence to suggest he definitely is. Digest these numbers - 162 tries in 221 games (strike rate of 73%). He's won 2 premierships in a Manly side that along with Melbourne have been the most consistently successful side in the past 10 years.

He's also pretty good at creating tries, 10 try assists in 2015, 20 the year before that.

Would I take him ahead of Dugan - probably not mainly because of his age. But to say he's not elite because "he doesn't break the line" is just flat out ridiculous.

 

[The Nick]

Mate the original question was whether Brett Stewart is an elite fullback. I provided evidence to suggest he definitely is. Digest these numbers - 162 tries in 221 games (strike rate of 73%). He's won 2 premierships in a Manly side that along with Melbourne have been the most consistently successful side in the past 10 years.

He's also pretty good at creating tries, 10 try assists in 2015, 20 the year before that.

Would I take him ahead of Dugan - probably not mainly because of his age. But to say he's not elite because "he doesn't break the line" is just flat out ridiculous.

No doubting this. Take away the ridiculous amount of season ending injuries he's suffered and we are debating whether he is one of the greatest fullbacks of the modern era.

 

[Vasilevsky]

Mate the original question was whether Brett Stewart is an elite fullback. I provided evidence to suggest he definitely is. Digest these numbers - 162 tries in 221 games (strike rate of 73%). He's won 2 premierships in a Manly side that along with Melbourne have been the most consistently successful side in the past 10 years.

He's also pretty good at creating tries, 10 try assists in 2015, 20 the year before that.

Would I take him ahead of Dugan - probably not mainly because of his age. But to say he's not elite because "he doesn't break the line" is just flat out ridiculous.

Define "elite". In the dictionary it says: (often used with a plural verb) the choice or best of anything considered collectively, as of a group or class of persons.

i.e. One of the best if not the best fullback. Ahead of Tedesco, Slater, Inglis, Dugan, Moylan, RTS, Boyd (maybe he is ahead of Boyd) and that is just off the top of my head.

Since when has this become a forum for virtually kissing the asses of enemy coaches like Bennett and enemy players like Boyd, Jennings and Stewart?

 

[Vasilevsky]

No doubting this. Take away the ridiculous amount of season ending injuries he's suffered and we are debating whether he is one of the greatest fullbacks of the modern era.

Purely hypothetical but I doubt it. He is a good ball-player and good support player but his inability to break the line or even tackles sets him in a class below the best fullbacks like Slater, Boyd (a few years ago), Inglis (before last year) and Tedesco (based on last year) who can ball play as well or better but can also break the line on a regular basis.

 

[SBD82]

Mate the original question was whether Brett Stewart is an elite fullback. I provided evidence to suggest he definitely is. Digest these numbers - 162 tries in 221 games (strike rate of 73%). He's won 2 premierships in a Manly side that along with Melbourne have been the most consistently successful side in the past 10 years.

He's also pretty good at creating tries, 10 try assists in 2015, 20 the year before that.

Would I take him ahead of Dugan - probably not mainly because of his age. But to say he's not elite because "he doesn't break the line" is just flat out ridiculous.

Also, Dugan linebreaks for 2015 is 12. Brett Stewart 6. It's not as though duges was prolific and Stewart wasn't breaking the line at all...

 

[giboz71]

Define "elite". In the dictionary it says: (often used with a plural verb) the choice or best of anything considered collectively, as of a group or class of persons.

i.e. One of the best if not the best fullback. Ahead of Tedesco, Slater, Inglis, Dugan, Moylan, RTS, Boyd (maybe he is ahead of Boyd) and that is just off the top of my head.

Since when has this become a forum for virtually kissing the asses of enemy coaches like Bennett and enemy players like Boyd, Jennings and Stewart?

Ummmm....take a look at the title of the thread. Top 5 fullbacks in the NRL.

Clearly talking about the actual topic of thread is clearly not your strong point.

 

[giboz71]

No doubting this. Take away the ridiculous amount of season ending injuries he's suffered and we are debating whether he is one of the greatest fullbacks of the modern era.

Absolutely.

And apart from the injuries, the challenge he faces having Type 1 diabetes. The fact he's still amongst the best fullbacks in the game is amazing.

 

[denis preston]

Dugan is a very good player but the try assist number is damming and that's why he will be playing centre this year and will make the top 5 best centre category !

 

[BrissyRedV]

Dugan is a very good player but the try assist number is damming and that's why he will be playing centre this year and will make the top 5 best centre category !

This. His try column does not even rate with only 7 tries for the season. Plenty of fullbacks ahead in both those categories. As a centre, he will be one of the best.

 

[BrissyRedV]

Ummmm....take a look at the title of the thread. Top 5 fullbacks in the NRL.

Clearly talking about the actual topic of thread is clearly not your strong point.

:lol:

 

[Vasilevsky]

Ummmm....take a look at the title of the thread. Top 5 fullbacks in the NRL.

Clearly talking about the actual topic of thread is clearly not your strong point.

Right. Well let's not let this degenerate into name calling. After all, I am clearly talking about the best 5 fullbacks in the NRL of which Brett Stewart isn't one. He has shown in Origin, one of the few he has played, he is hopelessly out of his depth at any level above club level. The same can't be said of Dugan.

 

[DiegoNT]

Greg Inglis is regularly accused of having a poor season (which by his standards he did), but he literally dragged souths into the finals on one leg. While I'm not one to judge a player on stats , They do make interesting reading when comparing the best fullbacks of 2015 especially considering guys like tedesco and coote are said to have had 'incredible seasons' and inglis is accused of being incredibly poor
These stats are on a per game basis f

Tries
RTS: 0.46
Coote: 0.27
Dugan 0.33
Tedesco: 0.71
Inglis: 0:42

Try assists
Rts: 0.50
Coote: 0.68
Dugan: 0.10
Tedesco: 0.58
Inglis: 0:68

Run metres
Rts: 229
Coote: 134
Dugan: 173
Tedesco: 146
Inglis: 137

Linebreaks
Rts: 0.62
Coote: 0.55
Dugan: 0.57
Tedesco: 0.71
Inglis: 0.74

From
http://www.totalfootystats.com.au/nrl-player-stats/south-sydney-rabbitohs/greg-inglis#.VpWqPHSGTqA

 

[DiegoNT]

Brett stewart stats and billy slaters per game stats for further consideration

Stewart
Tries: 0.73
Trie assists: 0.45
Run metres: 63.5
Line breaks: 0.27

Slater
Tries: 0.29
Try assists: 0.71
Run metres: 107
Line breaks: 0.57

 

[giboz71]

Right. Well let's not let this degenerate into name calling. After all, I am clearly talking about the best 5 fullbacks in the NRL of which Brett Stewart isn't one. He has shown in Origin, one of the few he has played, he is hopelessly out of his depth at any level above club level. The same can't be said of Dugan.

Really. Let's see:

Brett Stewart as NSW FB:

Games 8
Wins 3
Tries 5

Josh Dugan as NSW FB:
Games 6
Wins 1
Tries 1

Try again.