Ever Last:
1 A spelling mistake is spelling a word incorrectly
Sure, as long as you have a small understanding of the word you're trying to use is spelt.
You didn't.
Spelling error just doesn't cover it champ.
2 Ridge's nrl career finished in 1999. So no Meninga toe poking kicking in 1994 is irrelevant.
If you say so.
Toe-poking was more than on the way out when Ridge began his career in the NSWRL.
Feel free to list the first choice goalkickers in 1990 in the NSWRL and let us all know who the toepokers were.
3 Anyone can teach themselves things through trial and error mixed with some luck - but the fastest, easiest and most efficient way is to have someone knowledgeable teach you. Its why we have education and training systems for many tasks. If accurate round the corner kicking was easy to learn - why is every teams kicker not kicking at 80+ %?
According to you, no one took it up because it was too hard to learn, yet Ron Giteau taught himself.
As I said before, Coaches have always looked for an edge, it's their job to look for an edge. If the coaches of the time thought that they could gain an advantage using it, they would have used it. To think otherwise is borderline geniused.
Which is where you come in.
4 An argument is not merely a collective statements to establish a proposition. That proposition must logically follow the premises. Yours do not. Thus you found assertions and fallacious illogical conclusions.
errr, no it isn't.
God you're a wanker.
5 I am well aware it says 75% of the union kickers in teh sydney competition... Where did I say otherwise?
You said "Notice from the article that 75% of union kickers were round the corner".
No interpretation required.
What, did you interpret me as meaning something different? 75% of Sydney Union kickers were round the corner and only 4 in the NSWRL.
See above.
Seems to me like NSWRL was behind Australian union. Thus Union was head of NSWRL even in Australia. What is your point?
lol
But you're not a Union fan?
Don't be so f**king wet. The last time Union was ahead of Rugby League in NSW in any way, shape or form was the day before Rugby League began in NSW.
A bunch of Pimms drinking Godfrey-Smythes kicking around the corner at places like Gordon and Eastwood is about as relevant as Rugby Union is in NSW right now.
6 When Ridge came to the NSWRL toe poking and inaccurate round the corner kicking was the norm. By the time Ridge left - kicking accuracy and goal kicking coaching had greatly increased. Ridge and Halligan have become very successful goal kicking coaches for league following Botica and Hewson's footsteps.
errr, no.
Ridge and Halligan were top shelf kickers but they didn't revolutionise sh*t. They just did it better than most.
Who the f**k is Hewson and why do you have such a hard-on for ex-Union Kiwis?
7 Even RL1908 concedes Union had far more earlier widely embraced the round the corner revolution.
And?
Read this name;
John Gray.
His first kick at goal in the NRL had more effect than all the players you mentioned combined.
You want to know how I know that?
I was there. I saw it. I saw first hand the reaction to it in the following months.
8 Crossan, Halligan and Schuster were signed for goal kicking. In 1992 what group of regular kickers (more thyan 50 kicks) has the greatest accuracy for goal kicking? Ah yes - the union convert 4.
I see, you can bag Cronin for kicking 50% in 1986 over 30 kicks, but when it comes to this one, you want a minimum of 50 kicks?
Life just doesn't work that way dopey.
In 1992, Tim Brasher had a better percentage than Crossan, Schuster and Ridge. Terry Lamb had a better percentage than Schuster.
And just because you seemed a bit too keen on picking out 1992...
In 1991 Halligan kicked at 63%. (no need to wonder why you went for 1992 now is there?) :lol:
Schuster was behind Jason Taylor and Rod Maybon. Halligan was behind, well, almost everyone.
In 1993 it was Cleary's turn to get beaten. By Jason Taylor and Chook Herron.
In 1994 Crossan kicked at 62%.
Your argument is falling apart at the seams.
9 You're not even comprehending my posts, arguing or making sense. You are literally just name calling and repeatedly pointing out I spelt a word incorrectly. Good for you. You're still an idiot who cannot comprehend nor form a logical argument.
Would you like a tissue?
And stop talking wank. You've just tried to bullsh*t your way through your stupid argument.
Minimum 50 goals?
1992?
Ring any bells?
You want the argument using only your "special" parameters corkhead. the sure sign of someone whose argument has gone to pack.
So are you still saying the toe poking is better than round the corner?
Where did I say that?
Here's your big chance.
Or do you admit that toe poking is not as good as round the corner?
Toepoking suited the eras it was used in. Do I have to say it over and over again?
Are you really that thick?
Do you now admit that union converts averaged were better goal kickers than born and bred NSWRL goal kickers?
Post them.
Career averages.
NSWRL games only.
Your parameters this time.
Off you go.
Do you now admit that in the 90's goal kicking accuracy greatly increased as opposed to stats of the 80's?
Why wouldn't I accept that as fact?
You're f**king mental.
But for sh*ts and giggles, post them.
Off you go.
Forums aren't a matter of making a point that you think is correct, it's a matter of proving your point.
Off you go.
Do you now admit that toe poking is extinct for the reason it just was not good technique?
Why would you think toepoking is extinct?
Because it isn't used in the NRL?
LOL
You seem to think i have this inbuilt determination that toepoking is better than around the corner.
Feel free to quote hwere I said that or even hinted at that.
Do you now admit that union had the widespread round the corner first?
Who said it wasn't?
Do you now admit League was behind for the times?
Absolutely not.
Do you now admit that Ridge, Halligan, Schuster and Crossan influenced this transition in the NSWRL?
Sure they did.
You're so stupid.
Do you now admit considering every team has a round the corner kicker that maybe Jack Gibson could not find one available to him.
err, no.
FFS, I should get a macro for this sentence;
If Jack Gibson thought for one moment he could have gained an edge on the opposition he would have taken it. The fact that he and other coaches of his era didn't choose to train around the corner kickers kills your arguments stone dead.
Or do you stand by your view that Jack Gibson did not think think around the corner was the right thing to do and that toe hacking is better? (I really doubt Jack thought this - but you seem to seeing he was so 'innovative' and would have got a round the corner kicker if they were better. I know, instead of trying to cover your HUGE illogical statement here - why don't you attack my spelling of ouiji again.
You didn't know how to spell ouija until you came here. I mean, seriously, you give the old thesaurus a work out but you didn't think to look up the spelling of ouija?
As for the rest of your mindless pap;
You actually seem to be saying you know better than Jack Gibson.
Your answer to the simplest question as to why they didn't use around the corner kickers earlier is; It was too hard to learn.
:?
Give me a break. ....:lol:
