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Tottenham Hotspur: "To Dare Is To Do" II

nöyd

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Andy Harper on Foxsports FC last night;
"Tottenham have a horror run coming up....I don't think they can keep it up"
WBA away
Bolton home
Stoke away
Sunderlamd home
Chelsea home
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What a moron!

did you start following spurs yesterday?

wba, bolton, stoke, sunderland - all teams we should be beating with relative ease but usually struggle to, especially when expectations are on the up

harper may not be far off, we will see
 

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What?
Look at the teams we've beaten recently. If we don't beat those teams then we cant consider ourselves top four material.
Regardless, Harper is a complete moron if he thinks a bunch of bottom-half teans equals a horror run for us.
 

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if you don't think that playing against some of the so-called lower teams could potentially be a "horror run" for us, check out some of these results from just last year:

0-1 loss - WIGAN
1-1 draw - WEST BROM
0-1 loss - WEST HAM
2-4 loss - BOLTON
1-1 draw - SUNDERLAND
1-1 draw - BIRMINGHAM
1-3 loss - BLACKPOOL
3-3 draw - WOLVES
0-0 draw - WEST HAM ffs
0-0 draw - WIGAN
2-2 draw - WEST BROM
1-1 draw - BLACKPOOL
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in all of last season we couldn't manage a single win against wigan, west ham, blackpool and west brom, that's a potential 28 points lost out of all those games listed above. so if you look at what harper said, most likely basing his analysis on past performances against clubs we would and should be expected to beat - his comment may have some merit.

spurs have a habit of not being able to get up for matches against lower placed teams, it's a fact. just because you don't like that or the dickface who said it, doesn't mean it's wrong.
 

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Its not a horror run.

WBA and Stoke away are tough games against good middle of the table teams. Chelsea is a top 4 rival. So yes they may be tricky, but its a competitive league so you get tricky games all the time.

The rest you need to and should win.

Difficult maybe, horror? If this a horror run then you would spend most of the season terrified.


Those results just show why Spurs didn't make the top 4.
 

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Those results just show why Spurs didn't make the top 4.

ummmmm maybe because we dropped 28 points to teams we should have beaten perhaps?

thanks for re-enforcing my point.
 
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and yes harper is a dickhead, to use the term "horror run" is extreme, i of course hope we don't struggle but history shows otherwise...

time will tell

coys
 

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if you don't think that playing against some of the so-called lower teams could potentially be a "horror run" for us, check out some of these results from just last year:

0-1 loss - WIGAN
1-1 draw - WEST BROM
0-1 loss - WEST HAM
2-4 loss - BOLTON
1-1 draw - SUNDERLAND
1-1 draw - BIRMINGHAM
1-3 loss - BLACKPOOL
3-3 draw - WOLVES
0-0 draw - WEST HAM ffs
0-0 draw - WIGAN
2-2 draw - WEST BROM
1-1 draw - BLACKPOOL
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in all of last season we couldn't manage a single win against wigan, west ham, blackpool and west brom, that's a potential 28 points lost out of all those games listed above. so if you look at what harper said, most likely basing his analysis on past performances against clubs we would and should be expected to beat - his comment may have some merit.

spurs have a habit of not being able to get up for matches against lower placed teams, it's a fact. just because you don't like that or the dickface who said it, doesn't mean it's wrong.

I did watch them last year and I do recall those results thank you very much.
We've alteady beaten Blackburn, Fulham, Wolves, Wigan, Queens Park Rangers this season. We performed poorly against some and much better against others. Considering that, and beating Aston Villa Liverpool and Chelsea, I think you are stressing over nothing.
We should expect to win those games as pretty much every Spurs fan is, trying to tell me I haven't supported my club for too long because of past records despite how we have performed this season and beaten such teams is insulting.
Whether or not I like those facts, the fact is we are the third best team in the EPL at the moment and have beaten five lower teams, saying that it is potentially a challenging run for us is pedantic as it can be the case with every "run" we have.
If that is not a good run for us then would you much rather we face the top eight all away?

I doubt Harps would have looked at our records against those teams, considered the positions of those teams in the league and said "horror run"; he is just being a moron and it is likely he either confused us with Newcastle or frankly has no idea what he is talking about.
 
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boxhead

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did you start following spurs yesterday?

wba, bolton, stoke, sunderland - all teams we should be beating with relative ease but usually struggle to, especially when expectations are on the up

harper may not be far off, we will see

and yes harper is a dickhead, to use the term "horror run" is extreme, i of course hope we don't struggle but history shows otherwise...

time will tell

coys

All I even said at first was that how could our run be a "horror run" as Harps suggested, if it isn't a horror run then why dispute it in the first place?

I do agree that I am beimg very optimistic with my assumptions, but surely we should look to continue our form against struggling teams? This team has shown much more of a backbone than they did last year.
 
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Noyd has a point based on last years form, but I'd like to think the addition of Parker and Ade has given us that bit of depth that we needed.

We shall see.
 

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3-1 does not reflect how brilliant WBA were, we started horrendously and sloppy marking led to their goal. Thankfully, because it came early, it spurred us into action and we steadily built from there; by the end of the game, we were looking classy against a tiring WBA that had pressured us so much but we were still conceding many chances.
The fact that we ground out such a tough win in such style (in the second half) without Modric and VDV is testimony not only to the strength of the squad but the starch, heart and passion of this team.
Our stars over the past few months didn't have such great games I thought; Bale and Lennon only really started playing well when they switched sides, Parker was poor in the first half, and Walker had a shocker.
Sandro was very good but very lucky not to be shown red, our strikers were great, and Kaboul was a monster in defence for the most part, Assou Ekotto had a superb game as well I thought.

But forget all the talk.
We are two points behind ManU with a game in hand.
Unbelievable.
 

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pretty much drifted in and out of consciousness all night, damn shift work, good summarisation boxy, coming back from a goal down away makes it just that little bit sweeter.

I'd like to think the addition of Parker and Ade has given us that bit of depth that we needed.

not to mention cutting loose some deadwood in those positions ala Jenas and Crouch, now we have a mf who has time and will look for the best ball to give, and a striker that holds the ball up and isn't just a long ball target.

I questioned the signing of Parker, but he seems to give us a bit of spine we perhaps didn't have the last few seasons...
 

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pretty much drifted in and out of consciousness all night, damn shift work, good summarisation boxy, coming back from a goal down away makes it just that little bit sweeter.



not to mention cutting loose some deadwood in those positions ala Jenas and Crouch, now we have a mf who has time and will look for the best ball to give, and a striker that holds the ball up and isn't just a long ball target.

I questioned the signing of Parker, but he seems to give us a bit of spine we perhaps didn't have the last few seasons...

I am going to admit mate, after that game I feel very sheepish for disagreeing with you.
They pushed us so hard and until Defoe scored I didn't think we'd get the win, hell I was still nerve-wracked until Adebayor scored.
If this was last year, we would have crumbled. I don't know what it is this year - Parker is the definition of perpetual motion and gives us toughness, having two strikers that can finish well and keep going despite missing chances in Adebayor and Defoe, and the confidence and speed that we have (I think it is all of them) - but we have the ability and the composure to win these tight games now.
I forgot Friedel in my review. The guy is a legend in my books - a living legend, he has been almost faultless this season.

But to do that without our two play-makers.....wow.
I'm over-reacting but we triumphed in a phenomenal contest, now we turn to Bolton at home with hopefully our Dutch and Croatian masters back pulling the strings. Though Defoe's form is really giving Harry headaches now.
 

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Cheers :D
I am starting to get a feeling that I think only United fans in the EPL have had for so long.....the feeling that even if your team is down and seemingly out, you just either believe or know they can and will come back and earn victory.
Far too early but is anyone else starting to get a similar inkling that we can keep going despite the adversity?
 

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i hold hope that we can maintain the rage so to speak, all the while remembering that teams more experienced in the lofty heights we find ourselves currently in are right behind us ready to leapfrog over should we f**k it all up.
 

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Hard to believe we are only 2 points behind ManU with a game in hand

I must admit I never even thought we could do this well, we could actually be second soon once we've played our game in hand.

Nice to see Sandro get a run, he looked a bit out of touch early but settled in well. Nice result considering we rested Modric and VDV.
 

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We've won five in a row now, but we are unbeaten in 10 with 9 wins and a draw.
Only ManCity have a better record then that in the past ten.
I don't think anyone in the world can quite believe that, and a lot of them probably still don't realize we've got the game in hand.
 

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