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Eelementary

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I will stop derailing the thread for the sake of everyone here, but the final point to be made is that your spelling, grammar and expression - not to mention your grasp of how to write in English - are deplorable, and your sheer idiocy and/or unwillingness to understand simple concepts is truly, genuinely sad.

Additionally, you're in no position to correct or comment on anyone's grammar.

Happy new year to you, and may God have mercy on the rest of us.
 

ANTiLAG

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Actually, in that context 'those' and "they're" are correct, as Eelementry was pointing out the three dots. And in case you didn't know three dots is more than the singular of one dot, judging by the maths ability you've displayed so far I doubt you did know that.

No, its a little more advanced than that. You would be correct for a junior school test, but you're failing high school writing like that.

Three dots are called three dots unless the three dots form something else, such as a sign like an ellipsis, or perhaps even a therefore sign, and when the ellipsis or the therefore sign is the antecedent subject of the sentence, a singular pronoun should be used unless the three dots are behaving as individuals.

For example:

Question:

"What are those three dots called?"

Reply:

"Its called an ellipsis when three period symbols are used next to each other in one line like that so as to form a new and singular grammatical sign".

The phrase "they're (plural subject) called an ellipsis (singular antecedent subject noun)" can never be good English, unless the the antecedent subject noun contains a collective noun, like family or team, in which those that make up the collective act independently of each other. This is the difference between introducing an ellipsis in intermediate school and then engaging with collective nouns in antecedent subject clauses in high school. Got it?

You have effectively argued an ellipsis is a collective noun of three dots and is such a plural, but you still need to demonstrate how those these dots can do anything independent of each other. But they cannot in the context given. The three dots, where its existence when being referred to as forming an ellipsis sign, are very much acting together so as to form one sign. If two of the ellipsis dots depart and leave the third behind, that remaining dot is no longer an ellipsis member, but a period.

So you and everyone else who thinks that the identification and introduction of an ellipsis, is a clause that requires a plural for the three dots is wrong and perhaps deliberately writing at a lower incorrect level for a different concept to be grasped, because the three dots when formed as an ellipsis, do not act independently of each other. It is the epitome of uniformly acting together.

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-select-pronouns-for-collective-nouns.html

http://www.chompchomp.com/rules/proagreerules.htm

For instance:

"The entire family agreed unanimously and is sending its spokesman."

If you want to descend to Alice in Wonderland proportions so as to use a plural pronoun for ellipsis dots, the following is an example:

"The sole remaining former ellipsis dot is not happy that the other two dots left it (the sole remaining dot from the former ellipsis) behind, period, so they're (the two dots acting independently of the third by leaving and disbanding the ellipsis) not in his good books.

He was explaining to you what those three dots meant, and don't even try to say you already knew what they were, otherwise you wouldn't have falsely corrected his original post.

Wrong and illogical.
 
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ANTiLAG

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I will stop derailing the thread for the sake of everyone here, but the final point to be made is that your spelling, grammar and expression - not to mention your grasp of how to write in English - are deplorable, and your sheer idiocy and/or unwillingness to understand simple concepts is truly, genuinely sad.

Additionally, you're in no position to correct or comment on anyone's grammar.

But I did comment on your grammar. And I accurately corrected your incorrect attempted corrections of mine. Near endlessly. So what does that suggest for the quality of your own writing?

Because, you come across to me, and I repeat myself, as an idiot who expresses himself in cliches, thinks "Ms" needs to be followed by a period, hyphenates adverbs ending in "ly" (while announcing the perfection of their writing in another post where the grammar led to this spat), writes in context to a second person as though he is possibly pregnant and as though an ellipsis is a plural. All this after contriving an ungrammatical "get" into a joke in place of "got". You're okay at proofreading in finding typographical errors, but your written expression leaves more to be desired than perhaps you realise. I know mine isn't my strongest suit.
 
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JJ

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serviceable/decent through to shit.... still world champs

Indeed, as we keep saying hard to beat on these decks you seem fond of

Probably unfair shit in the context of the consistently amazing fielding teams you've produced since the Simpson era. You set the standard but not at present
 

JJ

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Are we meant to apologise for producing pitches which favour the home team ?

Nope, but don't whine when made to look foolish on tour, which Clarke most certainly did after the Ashes
 
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Australian fielding was sloppy last night but overall it's fairly sharp. I'd say with their best XI and not the plods they've had this series, it'd be even better.

India actually fielded better last night. But it was a typical 'we've been hammered let's prove a point' last night.
 

Pete Cash

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We were really good in the field during the world cup tbh. Our fielding against india in the semi final was top notch as good as ive seen.

Even last night Smith pulled off an amazing save in the outfield that was one of the best ive seen in person

It was just one of those nights. The side has won a heap of odis in australia, eventually we were going to have an off night. Especially with the lack of quality in the bowlers.
 

Pete Cash

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Its pretty odd that the kiwis are trolling here. This is the first game we have lost at home since nov of last year and we are seriously weakened in pace bowlers. We easily won the series without mitchell starc the worlds premier odi fast bowler. Lets see how the kiwis would go without boult and southee lol
 

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