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TV rights thread part 4

Perth Red

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I hardly think this is the way you should treat a rugby league missionary, in fact, if this is your attitude perhaps you would be better of following the AFL

Best to ignore mate, El Dribbler is well noted for his stupidity and inability to contribute to a discussion other than to insult other posters.
 

Rosetta

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At "Telstra Tales" (a public conference with 2 Telstra executives today on Sky Business News) it was asked if negotiations were finished or ongoing in relation to the mobile and online rights for the NRL. The response was difficult to follow but there was a "No, we are quite happy with our current sports rights with the AFL and Netball" comment from one of the executives. Not sure if he meant, no we aren't negotiating, or no we haven't secured the future rights yet but negotiations are ongoing.
 

Lockyer4President!

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At "Telstra Tales" (a public conference with 2 Telstra executives today on Sky Business News) it was asked if negotiations were finished or ongoing in relation to the mobile and online rights for the NRL. The response was difficult to follow but there was a "No, we are quite happy with our current sports rights with the AFL and Netball" comment from one of the executives. Not sure if he meant, no we aren't negotiating, or no we haven't secured the future rights yet but negotiations are ongoing.

Interesting if it means Telstra won't be involved in the game anymore.

Currently pretty strongly involved in the NRL with naming rights, online rights and hosting the webring of NRL sites
 

Chief_Chujo

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Anyone else get the feeling NRL might be going in-house with the digital rights? They worked the TV deal to keep live streaming rights, Telstra seem to be out of the picture and the strategic game plan mentioned a dedicated digital media team.

I'd be stoked if this is the case. It's the future and I'd much prefer to give my money directly to the game.
 

Diesel

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Anyone else get the feeling NRL might be going in-house with the digital rights? They worked the TV deal to keep live streaming rights, Telstra seem to be out of the picture and the strategic game plan mentioned a dedicated digital media team.

I'd be stoked if this is the case. It's the future and I'd much prefer to give my money directly to the game.

I've been wondering the same thing and hoping bye-bye Nine with your crappy delayed coverage
 

applesauce

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Anyone else get the feeling NRL might be going in-house with the digital rights? They worked the TV deal to keep live streaming rights, Telstra seem to be out of the picture and the strategic game plan mentioned a dedicated digital media team.

I'd be stoked if this is the case. It's the future and I'd much prefer to give my money directly to the game.

It would be something an IT man like Grant would want. Lets hope it happens. Then we get to syphon money out of 9&FOX but still make a truck load by selling internet coverage direct and live to the customer.
 

Raiderdave

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I just wish the rest of the process would just hurry up & be finalised
I'm sick of our rights deal being reported at 1.025 Bill .. like thats it !!
thats just the Aust TV deal people :cool:
we still have online & the Kiwis to come

while the AFL's in the same breath in articles talking about TV deals only is listed at 1.253 Billion
thats with 153 mill online rights added
their TV deal was 1.1 Billion

just makes ours look a fair bit inferior when in reality we're still a chance of trumping their deal & securing the biggest media rights deal in Australian sport.;-)
 

Brutus

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I just wish the rest of the process would just hurry up & be finalised
I'm sick of our rights deal being reported at 1.025 Bill .. like thats it !!
thats just the Aust TV deal people :cool:
we still have online & the Kiwis to come

while the AFL's in the same breath in articles talking about TV deals only is listed at 1.253 Billion
thats with 153 mill online rights added
their TV deal was 1.1 Billion

just makes ours look a fair bit inferior when in reality we're still a chance of trumping their deal & securing the biggest media rights deal in Australian sport.;-)

I fully agree with you there.

The last straw for me today was Roy Masters' article which focussed on the new soccer TV deal. He said they were well behind the AFL 1.25 bill and the NRL 1.025 billion. You'd think Roy would have added a disclaimer there.
 
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Anyone notice the article in Sunday Tele which said that the Fox contract hasn't yet been finalized due to a disagreement over digital rights. Sure it was written by Slothfield, so who knows if there are any facts involved, but maybe this is why there hasn't been Any announcement about the digital rights.
 
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El Diablo

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http://www.smh.com.au/business/medi...-a-crowd-in-commercial-tv-20121113-299g6.html

Three's a crowd in commercial TV

Date
November 13, 2012 - 12:08PM

Business Reporter

There may no longer be room for three commercial broadcasters in Australia and Ten looks like the odd one out, says pioneering funds manager Laurence Freedman, who made his fortune plucking Ten from receivership in the 1990s and relaunching it as the most profitable free-to-air network in Australia.

‘‘Maybe we only need two (commercial free-to-air networks) because advertisers will only advertise on two,’’ he told BusinessDay.

When asked if he thinks one won’t survive he said: ‘‘I believe so. I’ve believed that for a long time’’.

Up until know the only question was which two would survive, he said.

With Nine on the verge of a revival and Seven still leading the ratings there is no question as to which network is in peril.

In its financial report for the year ending August 31, Ten revealed a $13 million annual loss and continued with a restructuring program, including cutting up to 100 jobs. This week, Ten announced that its Breakfast show has also now been cut.

Mr Freedman tweeted this week that Ten ‘‘have lost the plot’’ and, alluding to the latest job cuts from its newsroom, suggested the network planned a return to profitability by showing the station logo and advertising.

He is not the only one to question whether Australia will remain home to three commercial networks.

Media analysts from investment bank Citi describe the Australian market as an ‘‘outlier’’ with three commercial free-to-air (FTA) networks instead of the usual two incumbents that can be found in much bigger economies like Germany and France.

And it comes at a cost despite our market’s out-sized per capita spending on advertising.

‘‘For the Australian market, operating three FTA networks means the broadcasters are scrapping over a relatively smaller slice of the local advertising market.’’

Can Australia support three commercial networks? Citi said: ‘‘Our review of international markets would suggest that sustaining three broadcasters could prove challenging’’ although it did say that local market dynamics provide structural support for the FTA broadcasters.

Ten shares were trading at 28 cents today, or less than one-tenth of the price at which Mr Freedman sold out at in 2004.

He described the epiphany he had when buying a mobile phone that year with ‘'back channel'’ - referring to a mobile users ability to communicate back over the network in the same manner as a desktop computer over the internet.

It is a feature TV networks are still struggling with - connecting advertisers and its mass audience directly.
‘‘That was the beginning of the end to me,’’ Mr Freedman said.

‘‘What I was doing was buying the future and holding on to the past,’’ he said with reference to the mobile phone purchase and his shareholding in Ten at the time.

It had been a golden run since Mr Freedman and a group of businessmen that included CanWest boss, Izzy Asper and ad man John Singleton acquired the network from Westpac in 1992 and aimed it at the lucrative 18-39 age group with cheap programming.

It is a run he is not expecting to be repeated by the current crop of billionaire shareholders like James Packer, Lachlan Murdoch and Gina Rinehart, who have made huge losses on their collective investment.

‘‘They were, I think, tempted by the fact it had fallen so much,’’ he said.

There was a reason for this. Ten’s core 18-39 year old audience were leaking to rival network multi-channels, and to the internet.

Ten then made an expensive bet it could expand its audience with more costly programming.

The strategy didn’t work and it was left with a more costly business model and third place just as the media advertising contracted.

Mr Freedman said he has never been tempted to buy back in and doesn’t know what the solution is for Ten, but does not see much upside for the other networks either.

‘‘There’s no excitement in this TV industry any more, it’s a real slog,’’ he said.
 

gul15

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I live in southern NSW (Riverina) right in the middle of the battle zone of RL and AFL. The kind of area where everyone has an AFL and RL team and supports both passionately.
As of next year on free to air I’ll be able to watch 3 live AFL games in HD
1 Live A-League game in HD plus a weekly highlight show
And for a cool billion 1 live game of league per week in SD, plus two delayed game.
Am I the only one who feels the TV component of this deal $1Billion is an insult to fans?
All I can see this deal doing is help the top 5% of players upgrade from a BMW to a Ferrari
 

Panfas

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I live in southern NSW (Riverina) right in the middle of the battle zone of RL and AFL. The kind of area where everyone has an AFL and RL team and supports both passionately.
As of next year on free to air I’ll be able to watch 3 live AFL games in HD
1 Live A-League game in HD plus a weekly highlight show
And for a cool billion 1 live game of league per week in SD, plus two delayed game.
Am I the only one who feels the TV component of this deal $1Billion is an insult to fans?
All I can see this deal doing is help the top 5% of players upgrade from a BMW to a Ferrari
Get Foxtel, problem solved. Plus it is ad free
 

El Diablo

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I live in southern NSW (Riverina) right in the middle of the battle zone of RL and AFL. The kind of area where everyone has an AFL and RL team and supports both passionately.
As of next year on free to air I?ll be able to watch 3 live AFL games in HD
1 Live A-League game in HD plus a weekly highlight show
And for a cool billion 1 live game of league per week in SD, plus two delayed game.
Am I the only one who feels the TV component of this deal $1Billion is an insult to fans?
All I can see this deal doing is help the top 5% of players upgrade from a BMW to a Ferrari

no FTA games of AFL are HD seeing 7 don't use HD cameras
 

gul15

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Get Foxtel, problem solved. Plus it is ad free

Sorry I should have been more clear I do have Austar (Foxtel) I was just speaking of the perspective of the 70% of Australians who don?t.

no FTA games of AFL are HD seeing 7 don't use HD cameras

We receive the AFL here on 7mate, I assumed as it is a HD channel they broadcast the games in HD , football seems so much clearer but maybe that is just because I always assumed it was in HD. ](*,)
Anyway back to the point of my rant, I just feel like a lot of fans are being left behind in this deal, especially regional ones!
 

Lockyer4President!

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We receive the AFL here on 7mate, I assumed as it is a HD channel they broadcast the games in HD , football seems so much clearer but maybe that is just because I always assumed it was in HD. ](*,)
Anyway back to the point of my rant, I just feel like a lot of fans are being left behind in this deal, especially regional ones!

Over the course of the deal the main channels will switch to HD and 7Mate etc will go to SD iirc.

Depending on what happens with the internet rights you may be able to get all games in HD via some kin of gamepas and then stream them from your pc/ipad/etc to your tv.
 

El Diablo

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Sorry I should have been more clear I do have Austar (Foxtel) I was just speaking of the perspective of the 70% of Australians who don?t.



We receive the AFL here on 7mate, I assumed as it is a HD channel they broadcast the games in HD , football seems so much clearer but maybe that is just because I always assumed it was in HD. ](*,)
Anyway back to the point of my rant, I just feel like a lot of fans are being left behind in this deal, especially regional ones!

upscaled SD on 7Mate does look slightly better but it's still not HD
 

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