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Ultrathread I: Thread of the Year - 2014

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Misanthrope

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uni + work fits hand in hand.

i have learned more doing my post grad work, because i have been able to apply context to the theory..

and i have seen myself blossom as a worker and my pay grow by nearly 50% since starting my degree..

i feel i've learned more in those few years through combining work and study than i did in my undergrad + early career combined.

Glad to hear that. I loved my degree, but aside from enabling me to teach abroad (a Bachelor's degree is usually a requirement), it's been useless to me in the 'real world'.
 

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I'll raise a point of debate. Do Universities/colleges to put much emphasis on textbook learning and is the learning somewhat irrelevant once in the rule world?

Yes. Sometimes I get the impression it's a bit like "Okay and now here's the stuff you actually need to know" when you start a job in your relevant field.
 

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Yes. Sometimes I get the impression it's a bit like "Okay and now here's the stuff you actually need to know" when you start a job in your relevant field.

first lecture I had in first year the lecturer said the following

"you will spend the next 4 years to get a piece of paper that will then let you go out and learn to be an engineer"
 

Misanthrope

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you go to uni to learn how to learn, or more precisely, to learn how to learn efficiently and judiciously in your field.

With the exception of better understanding how to reference people and do the minimal amount of work to achieve good results, I don't feel like I learned a lot about the learning process at Uni.

But I was raised by two teachers, so that might have played a part.
 

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I've long been able to manage the temper I seem to have inherited from my father and that my brothers also possess, but I lost it at 4am this morning.

After staying up for kick-off of Croatia v Brazil and sitting through 2 hours of flawlessly streamed opening ceremony and previews - my net dropped out at 3.58am.

TV wouldn't work.

I cursed a blue streak, tossed shit around, and was preparing to go back to bed when SBS.com.au came to the rescue.
 

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My TV decided it needed a retune to pick up SBS so I missed the first few minutes of the game.

Wanted to watch the opening ceremony but when my alarm went off for that sleep sounded like a better idea.
 

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Opening ceremony wasn't worth getting up for IMO. 25 minutes of weird stuff, a malfunctioning stage, and J-Lo looking old next to Pit Bull and some hot local girl.

Oh, and a paraplegic robot.
 

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One down, now 7 hours to kill until my next exam. This was one easier than I thought, but had a few brain-buster multiple choice questions in there. Either way, I'm confident.

Might go down the pub and have a beer, it's a uni friends birthday today.
 

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Given the success of my bestiality question, I pose another: Is there a moral or ethical reason to bring back capital punishment?

Discuss.
 

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I've never really cared about that issue much either way. I think the niggling thing for me would be the potential of killing someone who had been wrongly convicted. What kind of ratio of correctly convicted to wrongly convicted are people going to deem acceptable if any at all?

In a perfect world, morally, I don't think some people deserve to continue their lives in any form after what they have done. I'm not convinced it's feasible though.
 

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I am pretty strongly against the death penalty. State sponsored murder is still murder

Also can't get my head around the religious right in america and their love of the death penalty, given their general pro-life attitude.

Although that then opens up the abortion debate as well, which is an interesting one
 

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Given the success of my bestiality question, I pose another: Is there a moral or ethical reason to bring back capital punishment?

Discuss.

Remember getting this one whilst doing debating in yr 11 English (and no it wasn't mass). Extreme cases call for extreme circumstances. For the real nut jobs that kidnap/bound/torture/eat/use parts as furniture etc it is a no brainer. If someone goes on a rampage American style in takes a few weapons for a walk in a school and gets captured instead of shot on sight then it's a no brainer. If an arsonists lights up a retirement home it's a no brainer. Chuck in captured terrorists as well.

The problem is the modern capital punishment system manages to costs millions per individual and can be successfully dragged out for 10+ years with the bullshit appeals process.

Ontop of the ridiculously difficult procedure to get anything through the system for approval you have to put up human rights spastics that will jump up and down and cry that you can't just put a noose around someone straight after conviction like back in the old days.

These are the same f*&kstains that fight for a persons human rights even though that said person clearly gave those up when they decided to pickup two lady backpackers and take them out into the wildnerness and play percussion on them with a machete.

I had to do some alarming research into what needs to be done to be considered for the death penalty which turned into reading about sick f&ck after sick f&ck and after a fair while of pondering how to finish my argument I came up with this beauty.."some people can find it pretty easy to say these don't deserve to die, but it is a hell of a lot harder to say these people deserve to live"

Apart from being pretty valuable as a hamster to shrinks there is no reason joseph fritzl should have been allowed to keep on living so long. If I can't get an extension to pay off a speeding fine whilst being a pretty law abiding citizen then these pieces of shit should have no chance of extending their lives by keeping their case in court and parking on death row for 15 years and sucking the state/nation out of millions in the process.

Screw the humane side of it as well, the pieces of shit should suffer during the process. Don't even waste a bullet on them, just chuck them in a dark room, lock it up and come back in a fortnight to scoop them into a bag. If you are worried about the effect it has on the individuals doing the procedure then let other criminals do it for you for reductions on their lesser sentences or other death row inmates for a chance at a lesser painful way to go.
 

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yeah well like I said, just for the extreme cases that don't come along very often (well not in this country anyway)
 
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