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Ultrathread I: Thread of the Year - 2014

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Will a prospective employer upon reading my CV note the obvious gap of my manager not being a referee for me, but instead having the Finance manager and CFO? My Immediate manager and I have never got on, yet I have got on with the CFO and Finance manager and they offered to provide references.
 

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Will a prospective employer upon reading my CV note the obvious gap of my manager not being a referee for me, but instead having the Finance manager and CFO? My Immediate manager and I have never got on, yet I have got on with the CFO and Finance manager and they offered to provide references.

CFO is a big deal, so the fact you have him as a reference is probably worth twice what your boss says.

Well done getting the CFO on side.
 

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I would have thought somebody higher up the pecking order would be the more obvious choice anyway.

A day to day manager might see you more often, but I'd think the opinion of somebody more important to the business would look shinier.
 

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Will a prospective employer upon reading my CV note the obvious gap of my manager not being a referee for me, but instead having the Finance manager and CFO? My Immediate manager and I have never got on, yet I have got on with the CFO and Finance manager and they offered to provide references.
having the CFO as a referee is very impressive..

i wouldn't stress too much about it not being a direct manager.. Just someone more senior than you is ideal..

Everyone has had a boss they don't get along with..
 

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Found a $350 flight back to Sydney with AirAsia. Laughing!

Once I factor in paying 'extra' for baggage, a meal on my 17 hour flight, in flight entertainment for the 10 hour leg, and 'picking a seat' - came to $500.

Still $50 cheaper than flying Air Malaysia.
 

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Found a $350 flight back to Sydney with AirAsia. Laughing!

Once I factor in paying 'extra' for baggage, a meal on my 17 hour flight, in flight entertainment for the 10 hour leg, and 'picking a seat' - came to $500.

Still $50 cheaper than flying Air Malaysia.

As if you'd really fly them, anyway. :crazy:
 

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I'm not one to let a crash, which is pretty much close to an act of God these days, steer me away usually. But MH370 is still pretty fresh in my memory, and I'd be lying if I said it hasn't tarnished my opinion of an airline I previously liked.
 

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I'm flying a short hop with Malaysian Airlines during the Asian Odyssey in August. They're an excellent airline with a fantastic safety record on the whole. Planes crash. It happens. Very rarely, mind you, but machines fail. If anything, an airline with a recent safety issue and a top reputation to try and salvage is going to work even harder
 

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I'm not one to let a crash, which is pretty much close to an act of God these days, steer me away usually. But MH370 is still pretty fresh in my memory, and I'd be lying if I said it hasn't tarnished my opinion of an airline I previously liked.

You'd be surprised how many people are 'burned' by the possibility. Its perfectly human, IMHO.
 

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I'm flying a short hop with Malaysian Airlines during the Asian Odyssey in August. They're an excellent airline with a fantastic safety record on the whole. Planes crash. It happens. Very rarely, mind you, but machines fail. If anything, an airline with a recent safety issue and a top reputation to try and salvage is going to work even harder

Noone knows its crashed, mate. I think its 99% assured, but who knows :crazy:
 

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They're a top airline.

No doubt, I've heard this before. As are other airlines with fatalities next to their name.

I'm not one to let a crash, which is pretty much close to an act of God these days, steer me away usually. But MH370 is still pretty fresh in my memory, and I'd be lying if I said it hasn't tarnished my opinion of an airline I previously liked.

Nor am I, but as you said, this one is pretty fresh. My dad booked trip to China for the week. First thing he ensured, he didn't look at MA, even though he's flown with them before.

I'm flying a short hop with Malaysian Airlines during the Asian Odyssey in August. They're an excellent airline with a fantastic safety record on the whole. Planes crash. It happens. Very rarely, mind you, but machines fail. If anything, an airline with a recent safety issue and a top reputation to try and salvage is going to work even harder

Agree on this point.

You'd be surprised how many people are 'burned' by the possibility. Its perfectly human, IMHO.

It's scary to think how a plane in this day and age, magically disappears without a trace.
 

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I'm flying a short hop with Malaysian Airlines during the Asian Odyssey in August. They're an excellent airline with a fantastic safety record on the whole. Planes crash. It happens. Very rarely, mind you, but machines fail. If anything, an airline with a recent safety issue and a top reputation to try and salvage is going to work even harder

I used to speak nothing but praise of them. As you say, they had a fantastic safety record and great in-flight service.

Just too fresh for me to pretend it didn't bother me.
 

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I don't understand why it's scary. That's human arrogance IMO. The earth is much bigger than us
 

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I don't understand why it's scary. That's human arrogance IMO. The earth is much bigger than us

Its a trust thing. Nothing to do with the earth.

You get in the car, you drive your car to work, you get out, rinse, repeat for 20 years. You and your mates at work do it, who are all driving the same car.

Then one day your car blows up and you're killed.

Every one of your mates will question getting into the car.

The fear is due to something you trust sending you inexplicably to death. You don't expect the car to blow up, just like you don't expect the plane to disappear without a trace. Both betray the human trust placed in them.

To ignore the fear is actually less human. Writing it off as 'she'll be right' is ignoring your own mortality.
 

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I was more talking about the references to the plane being missing as scary, perhaps I misread the intention. But anyway, to your point about ignoring the fear. I don't think so. I acknowledge my mortality. I could be struck by lighting or have my roof fall on me tomorrow. So why be afraid of it?
 

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I was more talking about the references to the plane being missing as scary, perhaps I misread the intention.

I could be reading D10 wrong too. I must admit, it is unusual, but its more because we don't know why which generates my fear.

But anyway, to your point about ignoring the fear. I don't think so. I acknowledge my mortality. I could be struck by lighting or have my roof fall on me tomorrow. So why be afraid of it?

For me, I have less fear and more excitement about what is to come. My fear is for others who don't trust in the news.

Death is very final. Very. Shrugging it off is... well, for me its inconceivable unless you have a view on what is to happen after.
 

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I'm not talking about the plane missing being the scary part - things happen. Simple as that. What I find scary is, given the advanced age we live in. How it magically disappears without a trace.

Nothing is perfect, don't get me wrong. But you're talking about a Boeing-777. A 73.9m flying machine not a set of house keys. How does something so big, simply disappear?
 
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