Val Holmes set to join the NFL - Sharks grant release

[BestHookerRein]

Got him, yes!!!!

 

[DC_fan]

lol.. this is a myth and I enjoy watching NFL. Effectively the average IQ of an RB or WR is on par with that of a security guard. However keep peddling the myth. You are also somehow implying that Americans have higher IQ's than Australia. Again not true, sure some Australian's are dumb arses, but they are the ones who blindly think NFL players are geniuses. Hate to break the news to you but top tier College Talent will not be allowed to fail their grades. It just won't happen.

http://www.espn.com/page2/s/closer/020228.html

The average NFL combiner scores about the same as the average applicant for any other job, a 21. A 20 indicates the test-taker has an IQ of 100, which is average.

Some people disagree with the whole idea of IQ testing because they believe the tests are culturally biased and inaccurate. But Charlie Wonderlic doesn't make grand claims for the score derived from his test. "What the score does is help match training methods with a player's ability," he says. "It could be a playbook -- what is the best way to teach a player a play? On the field, the higher the IQ, the greater the ability to understand and handle contingencies and make sound decisions on the fly."

In general, says Wonderlic, "The closer you are to the ball, the higher your score."

This assessment roughly corresponds to the averages revealed, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, by an NFL personnel man in Paul Zimmerman's "The New Thinking man's Guide to Pro Football," which are:

Offensive tackles: 26
Centers: 25
Quarterbacks: 24
Guards: 23
Tight Ends: 22
Safeties: 19
Middle linebackers: 19
Cornerbacks: 18
Wide receivers: 17
Fullbacks: 17
Halfbacks: 16

The average scores in other professions look like this:

Chemist: 31
Programmer: 29
Newswriter: 26
Sales: 24
Bank teller: 22
Clerical Worker: 21
Security Guard: 17
Warehouse: 15

I got a score of 40

 

[aqua_duck]

LB's are some of the most instinctive positions in an NFL defence.
It would be very hard to instinctively understand a game to the level required for a LB when you've not grown up playing it.
Hard to make a way, wrap up and tackle if you arent anywhere near the football

It would be like taking an OLmen and asking them to be a front rower because they're good at being big and moving people. The skills of high level sport rarely translate, it's a rare sort of athlete who can just seamlessly transition to any sport and be good, it's all specialised training

Val Holmes is as good a chance to go over to the NFL and be a good NFL player as Luke Kuechly is to come here and be a good NRL player. It's not about athleticism or IQ, it's about playing a game that is not natural to you, at the VERY highest level.

You've hit the nail on the head. I mean imagine you took someone like Patrick Peterson and threw him in the wing in NRL after only 6 months training, sure he might be a world class athlete but he'd be absolutely loss in defence, wouldn't know where to position himself for kicks, wouldn't know when to jam in or stay out, wouldn't know how to hold the football in different situations, etc.

 

[M2D2]

Nick87 just proving once again there isnt many smart raiders fans on this forum.

 

[Danish]

I watch both NFL and NRL and the one thing I actually think NFL should look at when scouting is good tacklers in the NRL rather then the natural runners. I think league players would actually make good linebackers. The amount of times you see a running back in NFL get threw the front line then the linebackers/corners miss easy one on one tackles cos they don't have the technique the wrap the ball carrier. They put an arm out to try and trip him and the running back can break that so easy. There are some awful defenders like this every week. Even Jarryd Hayne when he was at the top of his game as a fullback would be able to wrap a a player when there is a break in NRL and I think this is where he should have been used?

To be fair to NFL players and their terrible tackling, most of it comes dow to the stupid amount of protective gear they wear.

The pads make shoulder tackles difficult (they just bounce off each other) and limit their range of motion, and the stupid helmets effectively turn them blind once they lower their shoulder/head to make a tackle (hence why so many of these idiots get hurdled).

 

[SBD82]

Nick87 just proving once again there isnt many smart raiders fans on this forum.

This post is my favourite kind of comedy.

 

[Abacus]

Credit should be given to the Sharks club for being magnanimous in releasing Val.

By the same token, the whinging from Gal and the Sharks fans is a complete discredit to their club.

 

[carcharias]

Credit should be given to the Sharks club for being magnanimous in releasing Val.

By the same token, the whinging from Gal and the Sharks fans is a complete discredit to their club.

How so?
Holmes walked out mid contract.
Not only does it leave a massive hole in the actual on feild team but it has an impact on other signings, sponsors and membership.

The dude didn’t even have the balls to speak to the coach.
He was fine with running to the newspaper though.

Maybe his phone only has the Instagram option?

Anyway, it’s pretty obvious people hate Gallen which is fair enough... he is the only bloke in the game that doesn’t give a predictable boring answer to every question.
People can’t handle that.
It’s too confronting.

 

[OldPanther]

How so?
Holmes walked out mid contract.
Not only does it leave a massive hole in the actual on feild team but it has an impact on other signings, sponsors and membership.

The dude didn’t even have the balls to speak to the coach.
He was fine with running to the newspaper though.

Maybe his phone only has the Instagram option?

Anyway, it’s pretty obvious people hate Gallen which is fair enough... he is the only bloke in the game that doesn’t give a predictable boring answer to every question.
People can’t handle that.
It’s too confronting.

He's a huge grub but he's a loyal one who cares about his team a great deal.

 

[carcharias]

He's a huge grub but he's a loyal one who cares about his team a great deal.

Yeah he’s done some shit on the feild.
So has Smith
Slater
Thurston ( calling refs cheats )
Plus almost every other great player.

 

[The Charlatan]

I can understand what Gallen is saying, he's left them in the lurch at the start of preseason and to duck out on your teammates, or the coach, without a front up explanation is a merkin move.

But if anyone were to lecture on severe penalties for preserving the integrity of the game, it probably shouldn't be someone who got flogged with a wet lettuce for doping.

 

[carcharias]

I can understand what Gallen is saying, he's left them in the lurch at the start of preseason and to duck out on your teammates, or the coach, without a front up explanation is a merkin move.

But if anyone were to lecture on severe penalties for preserving the integrity of the game, it probably shouldn't be someone who got flogged with a wet lettuce for doping.

Well he is the Captain of the club so it’s natural he will be asked about this type of thing.
He could’ve been a complete pussy and pretended he wasn’t pissed off or said what he said.
Like it or not he gets asked for his opinion by the media.
He is also in the media and probably will be for a very long time.
So get used to his opinions or just don’t watch tv or read a newspaper.

Same goes for Geyer , Johns , Sailor,

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Valentine Holmes reminds me of 2012 Victoria Derby winner Fiveandahalfstar,he plods away nicely but doesn't quite have the turn of foot needed to challenge Ladainian Tomlinson

 

[The Charlatan]

Well he is the Captain of the club so it’s natural he will be asked about this type of thing.
He could’ve been a complete pussy and pretended he wasn’t pissed off or said what he said.
Like it or not he gets asked for his opinion by the media.
He is also in the media and probably will be for a very long time.
So get used to his opinions or just don’t watch tv or read a newspaper.

Same goes for Geyer , Johns , Sailor,

Did I say that he was not entitled to an opinion? If you weren't in so much of a hurry to get your bits twisted over my post you'll actually see that I agree with his opinion.

I believe his opinion to be right, and hypocritical.

Like it or not, this is a forum and opinions are invited.

So get used to differing opinions or don't read the forum.

 

[Valheru]

Not sure why the hate on Gallen in this case. He is human and has the right to be annoyed especially given the fact that losing Holmes probably takes them from top 4 hopes to a fringe top 8 side.

Having said that he will have to get over it and move on which I am sure he will.

 

[carcharias]

Did I say that he was not entitled to an opinion? If you weren't in so much of a hurry to get your bits twisted over my post you'll actually see that I agree with his opinion.

I believe his opinion to be right, and hypocritical.

Like it or not, this is a forum and opinions are invited.

So get used to differing opinions or don't read the forum.

So he is right but he is wrong?
Ok

 

[The Charlatan]

So he is right but he is wrong?
Ok

No, he is right, but a hypocrite.

He can be both.

 

[carcharias]

No, he is right, but a hypocrite.

He can be both.

Would you prefer he lie about his thoughts on the matter?

 

[The Charlatan]

Would you prefer he lie about his thoughts on the matter?

No. I can agree with him and still say "Gal is right that Holmes pulled a dick move and it's a f**ked situation he's left them in, but boy this integrity talk is a bit rich coming from a guy done for doping."

What part of this do you not get?

f**k me, it's like talking to other Wests fans about Farah...

Anyway have the last word, this is cyclic and I have no interest in discussing it further.

 

[some11]

Well done.