Valentine Holmes NFL career

[BestHookerRein]

Anthony Milford?

Oh i get it, its because....

 

[The Marshall]

Things got a little harder for Holmes this morning the Jets signed Ty Montgomery who is a running back/wide receiver.

 

[big hit!]

they're all playing second fiddle to le'Veon bell

 

[Mr Angry]

https://www.newyorkjets.com/team/players-roster/valentine-holmes/

 

[t-ba]

Making the name Holmes a household name again in the US

He's got some big holes to fill.

 

[Albert Rosenfeld]

Valentine Holmes could be bigger than Jarryd Hayne in the US media if he can make the preseason games.

 

[unforgiven]

Valentine Holmes could be bigger than Jarryd Hayne in the US media if he can make the preseason games.

If he can make? He will definitely make the preseason games as he doesn't cost a roster spot.

 

[Knuckle-dragger]

 

[Chook Norris]

Some fairly mixed opinions on how he went. I don't understand NFL much but looks like it was nothing special. Hayne seemed to go better in the preseason games?

 

[Legion]

Valentine Holmes could be bigger than Jarryd Hayne in the US media if he can make the preseason games.

It would help if he doesn't drop the ball.
As Hayne found out, no second chances [His mother probably wasn't there to make excuses for him]

 

[VictoryFC]

Some fairly mixed opinions on how he went. I don't understand NFL much but looks like it was nothing special. Hayne seemed to go better in the preseason games?

Important to note that he's playing with and against 3th/4th stringers vying for a spot on the roster. NFL pre season is basically just tryouts. Hayne made some noise, made a couple of big plays. Holmes more low key but solid, on first showing he could easily make the Jets roster. Special teams most likely, which deal with kickoff/punt returns.

 

[DC_fan]

Important to note that he's playing with and against 3th/4th stringers vying for a spot on the roster. NFL pre season is basically just tryouts. Hayne made some noise, made a couple of big plays. Holmes more low key but solid, on first showing he could easily make the Jets roster. Special teams most likely, which deal with kickoff/punt returns.

Interesting to note he didn't play as kick returner. Holmes played ins the 4th quarter and you are right he was up against 3rd and 4th stringers. Regardless of that I thought he preformed well. We will know more about his longterm prospects in the next couple of weeks.

 

[snogard6]

To me, he looked good once he had ball in hand, but looked lost, and unsure of what to do when he didn’t. He just didn't look natural

 

[DC_fan]

To me, he looked good once he had ball in hand, but looked lost, and unsure of what to do when he didn’t. He just didn't look natural

Good point you make.

 

[unforgiven]

He did ok, I don't think the Jets will waste a roster spot on him when they can just sit him on the practice squad as an extra player. Unless he shows a lot more than he has then there won't be a risk of another team picking him up! He will get some more game time in the coming weeks, especially in week 4 of the preseason.

 

[Exsilium]

Question for those that follow NFL.

IMO, an NRL back is suited to the punt return role. This seems ready made for a Valentine Holmes type player. Why do they try to be wide receivers, when they could be very effective kick returners?

 

[T.S Quint]

Question for those that follow NFL.

IMO, an NRL back is suited to the punt return role. This seems ready made for a Valentine Holmes type player. Why do they try to be wide receivers, when they could be very effective kick returners?

Kick returners are usually wide receivers or running backs. There’s no point having a player on tour team as a specialist punt/kick returner unless they can play another role on the team.
Hayne was a running back, not a wide receiver and it seems Holmes is going the same route.

 

[Danish]

If Holmes isn’t willing to giving himself at least 2 seasons to make a proper go of it, then he might as well come home now. Hayne had a genuine shot to make the transition, but threw it away on his rugby “dream” (or potentially having some reason to leave the country ASAP...)

Holmes looked pretty decent for a guy who has zero experience. He’s destined for the practice squad, then we’ll see how committed he actually is.

Would love to see a league player go at a younger age and get some college experience. The Polynesian youth is an untapped market for the NFL, and they probably don’t come with all the baggage of rising elephants to practice and what not

 

[unforgiven]

If Holmes isn’t willing to giving himself at least 2 seasons to make a proper go of it, then he might as well come home now.

100% he has a shot, but it won't be for this coming season, he needs to accept that the practice squad is his destination and spend the next 12 months learning all he can. Hopefully then this time next year he can get some game time on film that will make him a viable option for the Jets or another team, but it will be a long road. Based on yesterday's game he is a fair way down the jets depth chart!

The Polynesian youth is an untapped market for the NFL, and they probably don’t come with all the baggage of rising elephants to practice and what not

There are actually a lot of Polynesians in the NFL, apparently a boy born to Samoan parents is over 50 times more likely to play in the NFL than any other child in America. Basically per capita players of Polynesian and in particular Samoan descent are overrepresented in the NFL.

 

[jaseg]

Some fairly mixed opinions on how he went. I don't understand NFL much but looks like it was nothing special. Hayne seemed to go better in the preseason games?

Holmes did fairly well (mostly as a check down guy rather than actually running the ball), but got very little opportunity - and no opportunity at the things he needs to dominate to have a chance at making the 53 (special teams, returner and gunner roles). The snaps he did get were on offense against the guys who aren't making any rosters - and the Giants don't look deep to begin with. He needs to hope that his performance translates into more snaps in the next 3 games.

Greg Dortch, a WR (less competition at his spot on offense) who looks like the biggest chance for the returner role, did it fairly well - so that's not good for Holmes.

The biggest difference between Holmes & Hayne at this point is opportunity - though Holmes has looked a little better so far on offense (Hayne shined on special teams).