WA BEARS

[Colk]

He’s not arguing for any more Sydney clubs

Yeah he has. He has talked about bringing back the North Sydney Bears on more than a fair few occasions.

 

[Wb1234]

No we don’t. No Sydney club is dying (unless something very drastic happens) but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to expand.

Also how are you defining a plastic club? Are they clubs that don’t come from Sydney perhaps? If so, you might want all the supporters of those clubs that they don’t follow a real club (whatever that means)

The Sydney clubs do have more tradition that’s a fact

the reality is it’s the competition between those Sydney clubs that’s the basis of the nrl

even if you go outside of Sydney look how many jerseys there are from locals who support Sydney sides

if you put all the non Sydney nrl clubs on their own they would struggle. Sydney is the basis of the strength of the game in Australia

it’s nothing to be ashamed of either. Do afl fans who aren’t from Victoria talk this way about the Victorian clubs ? Because they joined the vfl

 

[Wb1234]

Yeah he has. He has talked about bringing back the North Sydney Bears on more than a fair few occasions.

On central coast or solely as a north Sydney team

even norths fans don’t argue for the latter

 

[Perth Red]

Bit unfair calling him a troll when a lot of his points are actually correct

Which ones exactly?

 

[Perth Red]

With the exception of the odd dissenter that's the average standard of discussion around expansion in every pub, stadium, and social media platform around "the heartlands", and given that it's not surprising that Pippen, and others like him, are thinking the way they do. In other words he's no troll.

But more importantly you have to understand that broadly speaking "our" way of thinking is the aberration, not the other way around.

I disagree, ignorance can only be excused until someone educates you. After that if you choose to ignore the new Information and keep peddling the same bs it’s just trolling,

 

[Wb1234]

And yet they paid nothing extra for brisbane2. that’s how valuable they considered another heartland club! The value is in the ninth tv slot much more than the location of the club for tv.

Not necessarily

nz2 increases sky nz potentially
Perth has the time slot advantage which is unique

then there’s the value of the 9th game on top

 

[The Great Dane]

even norths fans don’t argue for the latter

Don't know too many Norths fans do you lol.

I'm a Norths fan, there're plenty whom will argue that they should come back, be based in NS, and play most or all games at NSO.

There're plenty who say that they won't support the team if they've relocated, most count the CC as a relocation.

 

[Perth Red]

Solves the player development issue a Perth side would have

As would just partnering with an existing qlnd cup side without having to take on their identity and sharing ownership

 

[Wb1234]

All four expansion clubs were f**ked before the 1995 season started. The blame isn't on the clubs, but the ludicrous way Arthurson and Quayle went about expansion. I don't think those two had any idea how to run the league and it created the perfect situation for a rebel competition to enter the market.

Wanna compare how they ran the game to whoever was running the arl ? Lmao

even news ltd said Quayle was a great administrator

 

[Perth Red]

Not necessarily

nz2 increases sky nz potentially
Perth has the time slot advantage which is unique

then there’s the value of the 9th game on top

If brisbane2 had realised a significant increase in tv value from nine and fox I’d have agreed. But it didn’t suggesting location isnt as important as weve been made to believe all these years.

 

[Wb1234]

Haha they really aren’t. Fox are paying no more for 17 clubs in 2023 than they paid for 16 clubs in 2017.

That’s such a dumb argument. The market changed in the meantime. The nrl was on a fixed contract until 2027.

the arlc renegotiated that contact by adding the dolphins. So yeh of course foxtel paid extra for expansion

 

[Perth Red]

Wanna compare how they ran the game to whoever was running the nrl ? Lmao

even news ltd said Quayle was a great administrator

It was obvious they couldn’t afford to expand properly, they had balls and vision for sure but alas not the ability. Same old same it seems.

 

[Perth Red]

That’s such a dumb argument. The market changed in the meantime. The nrl was on a fixed contract until 2027.

the arlc renegotiated that contact by adding the dolphins. So yeh of course foxtel paid extra for expansion

Do you really believe Vlandys signed an original 5year extension deal with fox for $100million less than the last deal? Honestly just think about that for a minute!

 

[Wb1234]

Don't know too many Norths fans do you lol.

I'm a Norths fan, there're plenty whom will argue that they should come back, be based in NS, and play most or all games at NSO.

There're plenty who say that they won't support the team if they've relocated, most count the CC as a relocation.

The club had decided to move to central coast before the got kicked out so I’m sure the majority of fans were ok with the move

nso is good for one or two games a year. It’s not much better than Henson park

 

[Wb1234]

Do you really believe Vlandys signed an original 5year extension deal with fox for $100million less than the last deal? Honestly just think about that for a minute!

Stop being obtuse.

The arlc was stuck with the covid eesices contract until 2027

they couldn’t get out of it

then they got an increase be bringing in the dolphins

which you said they never could get

 

[Perth Red]

The club had decided to move to central coast before the got kicked out so I’m sure the majority of fans were ok with the move

nso is good for one or two games a year. It’s not much better than Henson park

It’s embarrasing that an nrl game would be played at that amateur ground. That it might have a perth name on it just makes it worse!m

 

[Wb1234]

It was obvious they couldn’t afford to expand properly, they had balls and vision for sure but alas not the ability. Same old same it seems.

So then which clubs out of the four they added in 1995 should’ve been omitted

1. Perth lol
2. Warriors
3. Cowboys
4. Crushers

 

[Wb1234]

It’s embarrasing that an nrl game would be played at that amateur ground. That it might have a perth name on it just makes it worse!m

There’s a famous tree in the ground. You can climb it and watch the game from there

it’s actually an oval. If it wasn’t in such a nice suburbs it’s actually meh

only been once mind you

 

[Perth Red]

Stop being obtuse.

The arlc was stuck with the covid eesices contract until 2027

they couldn’t get out of it

then they got an increase be bringing in the dolphins

which you said they never could get

So you do believe that vanydys signed a 5 year extension for $100million less than grant signed in 2015? That would be one of the worse prices of sports administration of all time!

 

[Wb1234]

So you do believe that vanydys signed a 5 year extension for $100million less than grant signed in 2015? That would be one of the worse prices of sports administration of all time!

Do you have amneisa ?

you were critisising him for signing that deal for years!