WA BEARS

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Attendances are fine this year actually in the post Covid world. Television ratings are very good across the board. All clubs attract great tv and streaming support. Financially all clubs are in good shape because of the grant they get because the game attracts huge tv money because of the excellent tv ratings. They earn that money by delivering the product. What must really annoy you and pleases me is that no matter how much you whinge about them and no matter how much they annoy you the clubs are not going away. Go you mighty sharks!

Two of the three best attended clubs this year are from outside of Sydney. Four of the five worst attended clubs are from Sydney. The team right at the bottom is the Warriors, and they haven't played a single game in NZ.

Bulldogs	11,385
Roosters	10,844
Tigers	10,486
Sharks	10,282

Pretty concerning for the Sharks and Roosters considering their position on the ladder.

Rugby League Tables / Attendances 2022

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Broncos, Cowboys and Storm draw better ratings than most Sydney clubs, even though two of those teams have been at the foot of the ladder in recent seasons.

Everything you ever wanted to know about NRL TV ratings but were afraid to ask

The overwhelming majority of fans get their NRL fix through the TV. An average round will attract 124,000 in the stands but 3.6 million, thirty times as many, will tune in via subscription (PTV) or…

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[Perth Red]

I love how mentioning that a Perth team already existed & failed is trolling. Sore point clearly

That’s not why people consider you a troll lol.

You claimed there is no intereast in perth for rl, when called out you asked for evidence, you got past and current evidence and chose to ignore it. Troll

you said the nrl hasnt mentioned perth despite knowing full well Vlandys has. troll

you have said the reds failed despite knowing Full well the extreme and unique circulstances that led to them being cut. Troll.

that’s why people consider you just being a troll in this thread.

 

[The Great Dane]

This is some revisionist bullshit.

Reds had no choice but to sign with News Ltd because Arthurson and Quayle made them and the other three expansion clubs fund the accommodation and flight costs for all visiting teams in ARL and reserve grade. It bankrupted all four expansion clubs and made them unviable. For Western Reds it was sign with News Ltd and survive or not be able to see through the 1995 season.

To be fair the Crushers were already bankrupt lol.

 

[Perth Red]

4 years ago Last time the bears moving West story came out lol.

The North Sydney Bears and a Western Australian consortium are exploring the prospect of joining forces to create a "Western Bears" franchise seeking inclusion in an expanded NRL competition.

Just a day after new ARLC chairman Peter Beattie declared rugby league must "expand or die", Fairfax Media can reveal former Western Reds chairman Laurie Puddy and North Sydney Bears chairman Perry Lopez have held a series of secret talks about a potential combined bid. While the negotiations are still in their infancy, both parties remain open to the prospect of working together to provide a compelling case for an NRL license.
"I have been talking to them," Puddy said of the discussions with North Sydney.

"It's very interesting. You're not going to get the people of Perth to support the North Sydney Bears coming out of Perth. We're talking about the Western Bears. Is there an opportunity to have some affiliation with them over here? Of course there is and that makes sense.

"I've had some discussions with them but until we get some direction and timing [from the NRL], we can't go to them with any sort of business plan."

Lopez believes a partnership with an interstate consortium could potentially bring additional corporate and fan support to an NRL license bid.
It's definitely on the horizon. We think the opportunity to play one or two games at North Sydney Oval or Central Coast Stadium are still there. At the end of the day we want our fans to be able to touch our brand at an NRL level and they could do that there.

"There's a major opportunity with corporates in Perth and we know they want to be part of the NRL as a national brand. The time is approaching and this could work.

"The Gold Coast didn't work for us for various reasons, but we think Perth could be a good opportunity."

"We've spoken to potential Perth bidders and we think they would be a great fit," Lopez said.
Puddy, who predicted it would cost about $20 million to form a club from scratch, said Western Australia was capable of housing an NRL club regardless of North Sydney's involvement.

"It's important to recognise that the Perth Reds and Western Reds were not unsuccessful," Puddy said.

"They didn't fold because they were broke, they were the pawns in a bitter war with Super League. Twenty years ago we averaged 14,500 people to a game when the population in Perth was 1.2 million. Today it's closer to 3 million.

"The city is crying out for rugby league and you can't give it to them by taking a game here and there.

"It's good that Peter Beattie is giving that direction but now we need to know how and when it will happen. The [Perth] consortium that's waiting for some direction from the league has been there for some time, we just need to resurrect it. Getting money out of Perth is the easy bit."

'Western Bears': North Sydney Bears back in hunt for NRL return after secret talks with WA group

The North Sydney Bears and a Western Australian consortium are exploring the prospect of joining forces to create a "Western Bears" franchise seeking inclusion in an expanded NRL competition.

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[Pippen94]

That’s not why people consider you a troll lol.

You claimed there is no intereast in perth for rl, when called out you asked for evidence, you got past and current evidence and chose to ignore it. Troll

you said the nrl hasnt mentioned perth despite knowing full well Vlandys has. troll

you have said the reds failed despite knowing Full well the extreme and unique circulstances that led to them being cut. Troll.

that’s why people consider you just being a troll in this thread.

What are viewership numbers for nrl in Perth?? Last I checked games were doing under 10k & sometimes in margin of error. That's not example of strong interest.

Peter V famously said he was wasn't going to focus on rusted on afl cities. When has he said opposite?!

Ppl have theories why reds fold, but only thing we can say for certain is that they did fold. Ppl acting like Perth will be great success can't predict that for certain.

Mandela said only thing others said about him which hurt was the truth. Explains ur troll line..

 

[Perth Red]

And just a reminder that theres plenty of interest in funding a perth club

FORMER Perth Reds chairman Laurie Paddy says an un-named businessman has set aside $10 million dollars to underwrite Western Australia’s return to the NRL.
In the wake of the Dolphins’ admission to the top flight, Puddy was speaking on Higher Ground, a radio show hosted by former Reds player Chris Warren. He said he and former Perth Reds chief executive Gorden Allen were ready to head up the new franchise.
“I’ve met with the government, I’ve met which colleagues, business people – money would not be a problem,’ said Puddy.
“There’s one business colleague who is prepared to put up $10 million as a guarantee and so-on so money will never be an issue with the next rugby league team coming out of Western Australia.
“Three million people over there are busting to have their own team and support it.

Businessman has “set aside $10 million” for Perth NRL team

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[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

You guys just want super league with plastic clubs & no traditions & rivalry. It was tried & failed.

We got a chance to see the drawing power of traditional NSWRL clubs and "plastic" clubs in 1997.

ARL was littered with eight traditional NSWRL clubs from Sydney, plus two "plastic" expansion clubs from regional NSW, one from regional Queensland and and one from Brisbane. The overall average attendance for the ARL was 9,915.

Rugby League Tables / Attendances 1997

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Super League drew an average attendance of 12,345 with one team in Adelaide, one in Perth, one in Brisbane, one in regional Queensland, one in Canberra, one in Auckland, one in regional NSW and three traditional NSWRL clubs in Sydney. Brisbane, North Queensland, Auckland and Adelaide drew better attendances than the best attended traditional NSWRL club from Sydney, despite it finishing as runners up. North Queensland, Adelaide and Auckland were woeful on the field.

Rugby League Tables / Attendances 1997 (Super League)

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[Pippen94]

And just a reminder that theres plenty of interest in funding a perth club

FORMER Perth Reds chairman Laurie Paddy says an un-named businessman has set aside $10 million dollars to underwrite Western Australia’s return to the NRL.
In the wake of the Dolphins’ admission to the top flight, Puddy was speaking on Higher Ground, a radio show hosted by former Reds player Chris Warren. He said he and former Perth Reds chief executive Gorden Allen were ready to head up the new franchise.
“I’ve met with the government, I’ve met which colleagues, business people – money would not be a problem,’ said Puddy.
“There’s one business colleague who is prepared to put up $10 million as a guarantee and so-on so money will never be an issue with the next rugby league team coming out of Western Australia.
“Three million people over there are busting to have their own team and support it.

Businessman has “set aside $10 million” for Perth NRL team

Visit the post for more.

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Why is businessman unnamed?!

 

[Perth Red]

What are viewership numbers for nrl in Perth?? Last I checked games were doing under 10k & sometimes in margin of error. That's not example of strong interest.

Peter V famously said he was wasn't going to focus on rusted on afl cities. When has he said opposite?!

Ppl have theories why reds fold, but only thing we can say for certain is that they did fold. Ppl acting like Perth will be great success can't predict that for certain.

Mandela said only thing others said about him which hurt was the truth. Explains ur troll line..

Abdo Oct 21
In the long-term, if there was further expansion, the ARLC would consider all options – from Western Australia to New Zealand and the Pacific," Abdo claimed.

"There are so many opportunities. Why would you want to exclude anywhere?"

vlandys mar 22
team.

“We have to expand, we have to always look towards the future, you can’t just stand still, you need to be proactive and you need to continue the popularity of the game, and if we can make the game national we’ll do so.
“There’s a possibility of Perth or even New Zealand, there’s a lot of possibilities.

abdo may 22
Beyond that, the commission is open to looking at 18 teams down the track and open-minded about the location of potential new markets.”

troll done good.

 

[Pippen94]

We got a chance to see the drawing power of traditional NSWRL clubs and "plastic" clubs in 1997.

ARL was littered with eight traditional NSWRL clubs from Sydney, plus two "plastic" expansion clubs from regional NSW, one from regional Queensland and and one from Brisbane. The overall average attendance for the ARL was 9,915.

Rugby League Tables / Attendances 1997

Rugby League Tables - NRL Stats & Tables

afltables.com

Super League drew an average attendance of 12,345 with one team in Adelaide, one in Perth, one in Brisbane, one in regional Queensland, one in Canberra, one in Auckland, one in regional NSW and three traditional NSWRL clubs in Sydney. Brisbane, North Queensland, Auckland and Adelaide drew better attendances than the best attended traditional NSWRL club from Sydney, despite it finishing as runners up. North Queensland, Adelaide and Auckland were woeful on the field.

Who cares?! Game runs on broadcast money.

 

[Perth Red]

Why is businessman unnamed?!

You’d have to ask him lol
I suppose as he doesn’t want to be named?

 

[mave]

News drag up the Bears comeback bid at least once a season.

Just let them die already.

 

[The Great Dane]

That’s not why people consider you a troll lol.

People are wrong.

He's not a troll, nor is he aberrant of the average RL fan's opinions on expansion. Don't allow our small, almost echo chamber (you could call it a leaky echo chamber), to trick you into believing that.

Take a look at this video. It's long, but you don't need to watch all of it, just enough to get the gist-

That discussion is a good reflection of the average RL fan's general opinions on expansion, which Pip is more or less in line with. It's informed totally by gut feeling with no effort put into researching the merits of each market, but it is the general standard of opinion.

 

[Pippen94]

Abdo Oct 21
In the long-term, if there was further expansion, the ARLC would consider all options – from Western Australia to New Zealand and the Pacific," Abdo claimed.

"There are so many opportunities. Why would you want to exclude anywhere?"

vlandys mar 22
team.

“We have to expand, we have to always look towards the future, you can’t just stand still, you need to be proactive and you need to continue the popularity of the game, and if we can make the game national we’ll do so.
“There’s a possibility of Perth or even New Zealand, there’s a lot of possibilities.

abdo may 22
Beyond that, the commission is open to looking at 18 teams down the track and open-minded about the location of potential new markets.”

troll done good.

Wow, real strong recommendation Perth, nz or anywhere in pacific.

Nine & fox jumped at brisbane2 but nothing for Perth..

 

[Perth Red]

News drag up the Bears comeback bid at least once a season.

Just let them die already.

reminds me of the 90 year old in hospital they keep trying to resuscitate. Just let them die a peaceful death lol.

 

[The Great Dane]

Who cares?! Game runs on broadcast money.

I thought you were taking another break lol.

 

[Perth Red]

Wow, real strong recommendation Perth, nz or anywhere in pacific.

Nine & fox jumped at brisbane2 but nothing for Perth..

Haha, first you say nrl has never said it’s looking anywhere other than nz. Then when called out for being the idiot you are you ask for proof, now you have the proof it’s not ”strong” enough for you.

troll done good

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

so the broncos didn’t just want the crushers killed off they wanted the seagulls too ?

thanks for that even more justification for hating super league

Why do you think my name is Get Rid of the Donkeys?

They've caused more trouble than good for rugby league in SEQ.

 

[Pippen94]

People are wrong.

He's not a troll, nor is he aberrant of the average RL fan's opinions on expansion. Don't allow our small, almost echo chamber (you could call it a leaky echo chamber), trick you into believing that.

Take a look at this video. It's long, but you don't need to watch all of it, just enough to get the gist-

That discussion is a good reflection of the average RL fan's general opinions on expansion, which Pip is more or less in line with. It's informed totally by gut feeling with no effort put into research the merits of each market, but it is the general standard of opinion.

Nice troll ( only correct use of term in this thread)

You’d have to ask him lol
I suppose as he doesn’t want to be named?

Or doesn't have a name i.e. doesn't really exist..

 

[Menaiduck]

Two of the three best attended clubs this year are from outside of Sydney. Four of the five worst attended clubs are from Sydney. The team right at the bottom is the Warriors, and they haven't played a single game in NZ.

Bulldogs	11,385
Roosters	10,844
Tigers	10,486
Sharks	10,282

Pretty concerning for the Sharks and Roosters considering their position on the ladder.

Rugby League Tables / Attendances 2022

Rugby League Tables - NRL Stats & Tables

afltables.com

Broncos, Cowboys and Storm draw better ratings than most Sydney clubs, even though two of those teams have been at the foot of the ladder in recent seasons.

Everything you ever wanted to know about NRL TV ratings but were afraid to ask

The overwhelming majority of fans get their NRL fix through the TV. An average round will attract 124,000 in the stands but 3.6 million, thirty times as many, will tune in via subscription (PTV) or…

pythagonrl.com

As you well know the sharks ground capacity has been reduced significantly this year and the roosters are playing out of a ground temporarily which is unsuitable for league. As for tv ratings they are great across the board. Sydney teams rate very well across the various platforms. The great news is those clubs are going to continue regardless of how much it annoys you. This makes me happy. Go sharks!