WA BEARS

[Perth Red]

Perth
South west Brisbane
Nz2

all in the next ten years.

then a cairns / png team sounds a whole lot more interesting

It would beincredible if we got to 20 teams with Perth, NZ2, Brisbane Firehawks or Jets and PNG in my lifetime. Cant see it but geez it would be amazing!

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

It would beincredible if we got to 20 teams with Perth, NZ2, Brisbane Firehawks or Jets and PNG in my lifetime. Cant see it but geez it would be amazing!

I'd also like to have a third NZ team at some stage. Hopefully Pirates get the 18th licence.

 

[Wb1234]

The Mayor of Cairns is politically motivated to say such a thing. He doesn't have the influence or command the power to make such a thing happen. Even this statement is laughable, "PNG haven't spoken to us, but we would love to be involved!"

Any local Mayor is going to say "Yes, we want a team in the NRL".

In terms of crowds, sponsors, financial backing and stadia Cairns doesn't meet one single piece of criteria.

Games are played in Townsville, because its centrally located for the whole region, and the have a Stadium.

The extent of govt spending for Cairns is that is going to have its lights upgraded for the Olympics

New lighting first step in Olympics upgrade for Barlow Park

New broadcast TV lighting will be installed at Barlow Park in Cairns, as the venue begins its upgrade to host football matches during the 2032 Olympic Games.

www.austadiums.com

It would beincredible if we got to 20 teams with Perth, NZ2, Brisbane Firehawks or Jets and PNG in my lifetime. Cant see it but geez it would be amazing!


Png won’t be in until after they hit 20 teams
If all this expansion starts paying off in much higher tv viewers then money shouldn’t be a problem for further teams and growth

even if teams come faster now they went 20 years just adding south’s and Gold Coast

 

[Perth Red]

It would beincredible if we got to 20 teams with Perth, NZ2, Brisbane Firehawks or Jets and PNG in my lifetime. Cant see it but geez it would be amazing!


Png won’t be in until after they hit 20 teams
If all this expansion starts paying off in much higher tv viewers then money shouldn’t be a problem for further teams and growth

even if teams come faster now they went 20 years just adding south’s and Gold Coast

Comes down to:
appetite for expansion and risk
financial growth and willingness to spend it on expansion
playing talent (something still not being strategically addressed)
change in TV landscape meaning value to be had in simucast games

Size of major leagues around the world

NFL 32 teams
Major League Baseball 30 teams
NBA 30 teams
EPL 20 teams
Serie A (Italy soccer) 20 teams
Ligue 1 (French soccer) 20 teams
AFL 18 teams (looking at adding one)
Bundesliga (Germany soccer)18 teams
NRL 17 teams
Top 14 (French Union) 14 teams
Gallagher Premiership (England Union) 13 teams
Superleague 12 teams

Many of the above leagues have professional or semi professional second divisions as well. Looking at that its hard to see NRL going past 20 clubs max.

 

[Canard]

Comes down to:
appetite for expansion and risk
financial growth and willingness to spend it on expansion
playing talent (something still not being strategically addressed)
change in TV landscape meaning value to be had in simucast games

Size of major leagues around the world

NFL 32 teams
Major League Baseball 30 teams
NBA 30 teams
EPL 20 teams
Serie A (Italy soccer) 20 teams
Ligue 1 (French soccer) 20 teams
AFL 18 teams (looking at adding one)
Bundesliga (Germany soccer)18 teams
NRL 17 teams
Top 14 (French Union) 14 teams
Gallagher Premiership (England Union) 13 teams
Superleague 12 teams

Many of the above leagues have professional or semi professional second divisions as well. Looking at that its hard to see NRL going past 20 clubs max.

Especially given our population is a tenth of the US, and half of those European nations.

And, unlike most of the sports listed, ours isn't the biggest sport in the land.

 

[Perth Red]

Especially given our population is a tenth of the US, and half of those European nations.

And, unlike most of the sports listed, ours isn't the biggest sport in the land.

Yeh, if you added AFL and NRL together, which would be the equivalent in those other countries of one main comp we'd already be at 35 teams!
Australia is very lucky TV pays overs for the two comps in relation to size of most other countries. For example NRL/AFL tv revenue $790mill joint Aus tv money split between 35 clubs. Compared to say Serie A Italy nearly triple the population and $1.2billion tv money split between 20 clubs.

 

[Wb1234]

Comes down to:
appetite for expansion and risk
financial growth and willingness to spend it on expansion
playing talent (something still not being strategically addressed)
change in TV landscape meaning value to be had in simucast games

Size of major leagues around the world

NFL 32 teams
Major League Baseball 30 teams
NBA 30 teams
EPL 20 teams
Serie A (Italy soccer) 20 teams
Ligue 1 (French soccer) 20 teams
AFL 18 teams (looking at adding one)
Bundesliga (Germany soccer)18 teams
NRL 17 teams
Top 14 (French Union) 14 teams
Gallagher Premiership (England Union) 13 teams
Superleague 12 teams (*)

Many of the above leagues have professional or semi professional second divisions as well. Looking at that its hard to see NRL going past 20 clubs max.

One league is not like the rest

plus I wouldn’t take any notice of union competitions union never has had a strong club game anywhere

20 is a shoe In for the nrl

 

[Wb1234]

Especially given our population is a tenth of the US, and half of those European nations.

And, unlike most of the sports listed, ours isn't the biggest sport in the land.

So many poor takes here

England has under three times our population

they have 60 plus professional soccer teams
20 plus professional league teams
20 plus professional union teams

 

[Perth Red]

So many poor takes here

England has under three times our population

they have 60 plus professional soccer teams
20 plus professional league teams
20 plus professional union teams

a number of what you listed are semi professional with very varied wages.

England has
10 FT professional RL teams
13 FT professional RU teams
around 72 FT football clubs

for that they have around $3.5 billion a year domestic TV revenue

Staggeringly the next rights deal for EPL is predicted to be worth $6.2billion A YEAR (domestic and overseas)!
AFL/NRL around $900mill.

 

[siv]

The failure of the Northern Eagles means there isn't a market for rugby league on the Central Coast.

Pull your head in

CC is league crazy add the North Shore financials and you gave the basis of a very strong RL franchise

Why do you think Easts & Politis are that desperate to move Norths on after failing to takeover Souths territory

 

[MugaB]

It would beincredible if we got to 20 teams with Perth, NZ2, Brisbane Firehawks or Jets and PNG in my lifetime. Cant see it but geez it would be amazing!

I can see it happening within the next decade, Perth, PNG, NZ2... any others another 20 years away... just depends on either perth or nz being bear affiliated

As far as playing talent, whichever city links with the bears or easts first would certainly get the ARLC vote, PNG has the player talent, and NZ can produce more player talent, Perth have the potential to grow and produce player talent, and we all know QLD cup have got player pool, but most of it tied up already elsewhere currently in the NRL, with Storm, bronx, tits, cows and now fins

 

[Wb1234]

a number of what you listed are semi professional with very varied wages.

England has
10 FT professional RL teams
13 FT professional RU teams
around 72 FT football clubs

for that they have around $3.5 billion a year domestic TV revenue

Staggeringly the next rights deal for EPL is predicted to be worth $6.2billion A YEAR (domestic and overseas)!
AFL/NRL around $900mill.

So England supports 95 professional football clubs for 55 million

pretty similar ratio to Australia then thanks for proving my point

interesting the dominant football code can support so many teams

as the dominant football code for most of Australia it looks like the nrl needs way more teams

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Pull your head in

CC is league crazy add the North Shore financials and you gave the basis of a very strong RL franchise

Why do you think Easts & Politis are that desperate to move Norths on after failing to takeover Souths territory

I just used your mate's logic!

He said a North Sydney team failing to win over the Perth public means there's no market for rugby league in Western Australia. If that's true then there's no market for rugby league on the Central Coast because crowds for the Northern Eagles dropped to 8k by their third season.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Especially given our population is a tenth of the US, and half of those European nations.

And, unlike most of the sports listed, ours isn't the biggest sport in the land.

We only have five major metropolitan areas in Australia. Ideally we would have something like this:

2 x Auckland
1 x Adelaide
2 x Brisbane
1 x Melbourne
1 x Perth
3 x Sydney

Underneath that we would have a second division:

1 x Cairns
1 x Central Coast
1 x Gold Coast
1 x Ipswich
1 x Logan
1 x Newcastle
1 x Sunshine Coast
1 x Sydney
1 x Townsville
1 x Wollongong

 

[Canard]

So England supports 95 professional football clubs for 55 million

pretty similar ratio to Australia then thanks for proving my point

interesting the dominant football code can support so many teams

as the dominant football code for most of Australia it looks like the nrl needs way more teams

If your including the entire English Football Leagues, Then you should include the QRL, NSWRL, VFL, SAFL, WAFL ,Super Rugby and ALeague teams.

So Australia has 150 "professional teams".

 

[Colk]

Pull your head in

CC is league crazy add the North Shore financials and you gave the basis of a very strong RL franchise

Why do you think Easts & Politis are that desperate to move Norths on after failing to takeover Souths territory

Because another NSW side in an overcrowded market is the least threat to the Roosters? In any case who cares what an executive of ONE club thinks - it’s not the NSWRL anymore and if you want that go watch NSW Cup

 

[MugaB]

We only have five major metropolitan areas in Australia. Ideally we would have something like this:

2 x Auckland
1 x Adelaide
2 x Brisbane
1 x Melbourne
1 x Perth
3 x Sydney

Underneath that we would have a second division:

1 x Cairns
1 x Central Coast
1 x Gold Coast
1 x Ipswich
1 x Logan
1 x Newcastle
1 x Sunshine Coast
1 x Sydney
1 x Townsville
1 x Wollongong

Hahaha logan gtfoh, this dumb f**k forgets the nations capital canberra regardless of being major or not, hahaha but yeah add in bum-f**k logan

 

[Wb1234]

If your including the entire English Football Leagues, Then you should include the QRL, NSWRL, VFL, SAFL, WAFL ,Super Rugby and ALeague teams.

So Australia has 150 "professional teams".

We’re talking professional teams

To be fair if we are looking at Australia union can probably only support 3 teams at best, a league probably five and the afl shouldn’t have added Gold Coast or west Sydney

it’s not the nrls fault every other football code has added too many teams

league has genuine places that want and can support a team

 

[mongoose]

So many poor takes here

England has under three times our population

they have 60 plus professional soccer teams
20 plus professional league teams
20 plus professional union teams

but football is played all over the world, the real population the EPL draws on is in the hundreds of millions, probably over a billion. It's basically a world league, not an English only League.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

league has genuine places that want and can support a team

We cannot expand into these areas until Sydney is rationalised down to a sustainable number that meets customer demand. The NRL isn't going to print an unlimited number of licences and there isn't the talent, media coverage or capital to support 2-plus teams. If we're being honest then a fourteen team competition would probably be best for the game. The Bradley Report did list fourteen as the ideal number and said Sydney should have no more than four or five teams. If we got rid of five Sydney teams then we could bring in the Dolphins, Pirates and New Zealand 2 for a fourteen team competition.