WA BEARS

[Wb1234]

We want the game to be run professionally.

I'd like us to have six teams in Sydney, three in Brisbane, three in New Zealand, two in Perth, one in Melbourne, one in Adelaide, one in Townsville, one on the Gold Coast, one in Newcastle and one in Canberra. That's 20 teams and a footprint that no other sport can provide.

Afl isn’t run professionally

they have a huge issue with their expansion clubs and they have their heads buried in the sand and are just blindly throwing money hoping it will work eventually

adding gws and the suns was pure arrogance initially and pure studioty now

that’s your so called professionally run code

meanwhile we just got a club which was established in 1947, has a hundred million in assets and is in a huge growth area

 

[Perth Red]

It’ll have taken 20 years or so to go from 16 to 18 clubs. I’d suggest it will be an even bigger gap till we get to 20 clubs. so some time around 2050 lol.

 

[MugaB]

$643 mill plus $21mill naming v $402 plus $12mill naming
revenue gap soon to be $400mill cash a year. $2billion extra revenue over last decade. really not sure how you can argue this point lol

Listen dumb arse, im asking what percentage are YOU recieving... in your pocket, your wallet!!!
Not what each code had recieved, so bragging or whinging about rl or afl broadcast deal is pointless

 

[Perth Red]

Listen dumb arse, im asking what percentage are YOU recieving... in your pocket, your wallet!!!
Not what each code had recieved, so bragging or whinging about rl or afl broadcast deal is pointless

What? Why would I be getting any money from what sport makes? I’m not employed in sport lol. You make zero sense sometimes.

 

[MugaB]

What? Why would I be getting any money from what sport makes? I’m not employed in sport lol. You make zero sense sometimes.

Then why bragg about it, as of you yourself contributed to its winfalls... like i said its a pissing contest, not actually has anything to do with the actual sport... not like if RL had the sameamount of cash, like they would put that into grassroots in WA bwahahaha

 

[Perth Red]

Then why bragg about it, as of you yourself contributed to its winfalls... like i said its a pissing contest, not actually has anything to do with the actual sport... not like if RL had the sameamount of cash, like they would put that into grassroots in WA bwahahaha

No one’s bragging, we are conparing company performance and asking why our company isnt revenue raising like our main rivals company. We know we’ve got the product and market reach equal if not better so what’s going wrong with our company? And it’s our company not because we are shareholders and reap financial rewards when it’s doing well but because sport unlike most businesses has a stakeholder relationship from its fans that goes way above and beyond most customer company relationships.

you’re seriously telling me that if nrl had an extra $200mill, soon to be $400mill revenue a year our sport wouldn’t be in a better place? Really?
you think with an extra $2bill we wouldn’t already be at 18 nrl clubs and 18 nrlw clubs? You think we wouldnt have much better investment in growing the game in wa and other states that are totally neglected at moment? please.

 

[Wb1234]

Then why bragg about it, as of you yourself contributed to its winfalls... like i said its a pissing contest, not actually has anything to do with the actual sport... not like if RL had the sameamount of cash, like they would put that into grassroots in WA bwahahaha

Rugby league would never spend the kind of money afl is on non rugby league areas

the amount of actual players they are producing given the billions gone into non afl areas is staggering

it would be the same for rugby league

yes we could spend hundreds of millions and get an average amount of juniors

but for ten million a year Invested in the pacific islands and png specifically we could produce ten times the amount of players

rugby league needs to learn from afl mistakes and not invest in money pits purely for the sake of bragging

Perth will have the bears funding them so they should be ok with Sydney juniors and maybe the bears covering the costs of limited juniors in wa

if the nrl is smart in can make a massive leap by avoiding the mistakes afl had made

the future of the nrl is pacifika players investing a lot of money in new areas without this demographic is flushing money down the drain

 

[Colk]

Rugby league would never spend the kind of money afl is on non rugby league areas

the amount of actual players they are producing given the billions gone into non afl areas is staggering

it would be the same for rugby league

yes we could spend hundreds of millions and get an average amount of juniors

but for ten million a year Invested in the pacific islands and png specifically we could produce ten times the amount of players

rugby league needs to learn from afl mistakes and not invest in money pits purely for the sake of bragging

Perth will have the bears funding them so they should be ok with Sydney juniors and maybe the bears covering the costs of limited juniors in wa

if the nrl is smart in can make a massive leap by avoiding the mistakes afl had made

the future of the nrl is pacifika players investing a lot of money in new areas without this demographic is flushing money down the drain

I agree with that generally and the Pacific Islands is something that the game needs to invest in further.

Depends on whether you are inferring about putting in sides in the Pacific (which wouldn’t work) or simply investing in better pathways (which is obviously something that should be done)

 

[Wb1234]

I agree with that generally and the Pacific Islands is something that the game needs to invest in further.

Depends on whether you are inferring about putting in sides in the Pacific (which wouldn’t work) or simply investing in better pathways (which is obviously something that should be done)

Nah just money

png one day maybe

 

[Colk]

Nah just money

png one day maybe

It will be interesting to see how the Dolphins go. That will play a role I think in where they go (probably after 18 teams). I think a second team in NZ is inevitable but whether they go a third Kiwi side or a third Brisbane side will be dependent on how the Dolphins go, TV money and whether League makes inroads in sourcing talent from NZ and the Islands.

A third Brisbane side is much more likely but for player development a third Kiwi side might be a better option.

 

[Wb1234]

It will be interesting to see how the Dolphins go. That will play a role I think in where they go (probably after 18 teams). I think a second team in NZ is inevitable but whether they go a third Kiwi side or a third Brisbane side will be dependent on how the Dolphins go, TV money and whether League makes inroads in sourcing talent from NZ and the Islands.

A third Brisbane side is much more likely but for player development a third Kiwi side might be a better option.

Sadly for me Perth bears looked nailed on as 18

they will then repeat what they did now

ie bring in the easy team (Ipswich / Logan)
Which paves the way for the riskier team in nz2

still leaves potential for png to come in together with Adelaide because by then the game should be making so much money it can invest in riskier places

 

[MugaB]

Sadly for me Perth bears looked nailed on as 18

they will then repeat what they did now

ie bring in the easy team (Ipswich / Logan)
Which paves the way for the riskier team in nz2

still leaves potential for png to come in together with Adelaide because by then the game should be making so much money it can invest in riskier places

Whats easy about ipswich or bumfk logan??
Both areas are broncos territory... news ltd wont allow it.. you want another qld side.. do cairns/ png ... far away plus gives the cows a real rivalry

 

[Wb1234]

Whats easy about ipswich or bumfk logan??
Both areas are broncos territory... news ltd wont allow it.. you want another qld side.. do cairns/ png ... far away plus gives the cows a real rivalry

Growth coridoor

gallop highlighted that area 10 yrs ago

aren’t the lions basing out their too ?

Only issue is finances joining with the bombers did nothing

there was support for another brisbane team now (polites)

 

[flippikat]

It's

We want the game to be run professionally.

I'd like us to have six teams in Sydney, three in Brisbane, three in New Zealand, two in Perth, one in Melbourne, one in Adelaide, one in Townsville, one on the Gold Coast, one in Newcastle and one in Canberra. That's 20 teams and a footprint that no other sport can provide.

That's pretty much what I want too.

The difference between AFL and NRL is that NRL (via NSWRL and ARL expansions) has expanded to mid-sized regional markets, while AFL have expanded to the big metro markets - partly because they see better value in it, and partly because AFL-land doesn't have mid-sized markets like NSW or Queensland - so they have enough spots to put a team in each of the big metro markets, then double it.

But it doesn't NEED to be an "either-or" binary situation, especially if those regional markets are financially sustainable.

We can have Newcastle, Townsville & Wollongong (even if that's a shared team with Sydney) AND teams in Perth & Adelaide, AND 2-3 NZ teams - AND have a manageable 20 team competition - if Sydney gives up some spots.

Sure it might not mean a derby in every big city - and to be honest, it's a brave person to venture that we need 2 teams in Adelaide - but it'd be a decent footprint, all set to maximize revenue & sponsor reach.

Simple as that.

 

[MugaB]

Growth coridoor

gallop highlighted that area 10 yrs ago

aren’t the lions basing out their too ?

Only issue is finances joining with the bombers did nothing

there was support for another brisbane team now (polites)

Thats where bronx are!, growth is far better in the north, no need to bother out west, not when bronx already service that area, better off with NZ2

 

[siv]

Be good to get a new version of the pre SL War bradley report commissioned to see how it would read in todays climate of club "brand" power and record TV money

 

[marshall stalin]

We’re talking hypotheticals right now

colk said a png team isn’t economically viable

so this is a way to make it work

and unlike gws or the suns this would actually be worth it

realistically with Perth looking like being team 18 it looks like png will only happen if they go beyond 20 teams which is less likely unless they really have money to burn

20 teams with two more bris teams and Perth and nz2 is a far superior comp to what we had in 95.

As a rugby league fan I’d be pretty content with that

When they admit an 18th team surely they will have conferences such as the following- either cross over conference finals series and or Superbowl type GF

Cowboys
Broncos
Dolphins
Titans
Panthers
Eels
Tigers
Bulldogs
Knights

Roosters
Rabbitohs
Sharks
Dragons
Canberra
Storm
Perth Bears
Warriors
Sea Eagles


If 20 teams - Divisions - 4 divisions of 5 teams

 

[marshall stalin]

We want the game to be run professionally.

I'd like us to have six teams in Sydney, three in Brisbane, three in New Zealand, two in Perth, one in Melbourne, one in Adelaide, one in Townsville, one on the Gold Coast, one in Newcastle and one in Canberra. That's 20 teams and a footprint that no other sport can provide.

6 teams in Sydney so where do the other 3 teams go and don't say Relocation as they won't be happening
3 in Brisbane won't be happening - 2 is enough
3 in NZ - Gees the one team in NZ now is struggling as it is
2 in Perth - they haven't even one team currently
Adelaide - that boat has well and truly sailed

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

6 teams in Sydney so where do the other 3 teams go and don't say Relocation as they won't be happening
3 in Brisbane won't be happening - 2 is enough
3 in NZ - Gees the one team in NZ now is struggling as it is
2 in Perth - they haven't even one team currently
Adelaide - that boat has well and truly sailed

If two in Brisbane is enough then we'll need to get rid of five Sydney teams as four would be enough to cover the metropolitan area based on population.

Abdo did say Firehawks and Jets are a chance of getting the 18th licence, so there goes your theory!

Go look at the annual reports of Cowboys, Broncos and Sharks. It's proof Sydney cannot support nine teams.

Tell us again how you think News Ltd own the Cowboys, even though they sold their stake in the club in 2007!

 

[Perth Red]

In Wollongong at moment, the stadium here really needs 2 new stands and Dragons to play 8 games down here. Some marketing effort in the city wouldn't go amiss either, not seen a single thing or piece of merch anyone wearing so far for the Dragons.
NRL should pay for street signage and big posters at train stations etc announcing which club represents that area. Get the game in peoples faces!