WA BEARS

[The Penguin #6.]

They couldn’t shift 12k full memberships, not a great sign is it?

Glass half empty kind of guy.

 

[Perth Red]

Glass half empty kind of guy.

Well it’s hardly good news is it?

 

[Perth Red]

All the NRL "fans" hoping dolphins fail, just so they can say they were right on forum. Toxic

Troll done good

 

[The Penguin #6.]

Well it’s hardly good news is it?

 

[MugaB]

Well if it ain't perth, dump on it....

 

[Perth Red]

It’s like you totally ignored the opportunity to put forward an argument for your opinion and instead just posted an inane emoji?

Well if it ain't perth, dump on it....

Well if it ain’t good news, don’t pretend

 

[MugaB]

It’s like you totally ignored the opportunity to put forward an argument for your opinion and instead just posted an inane emoji?


Well if it ain’t good news, don’t pretend

So apparently if its not good news for Perth in general, then everything is glass half empty then... spoke like a true selfish pom... seems like you just want an argument everyday

 

[Perth Red]

So apparently if its not good news for Perth in general, then everything is glass half empty then... spoke like a true selfish pom... seems like you just want an argument everyday

My opinion is the fact they couldnt shift 12k full memberships for their first year is a concern given all we’ve heard for years is that brisbane is screaming out for a broncos alternative. Either that isnt true or dolphins havent got the city excited yet. That’s not being negative, it’s commenting on a reality.

not sure what the rest of your little rant is about. If perth cant shift 10k full memberships for the first year I’ll be worried And equally critical.

 

[MugaB]

My opinion is the fact they couldnt shift 12k full memberships for their first year is a concern given all we’ve heard for years is that brisbane is screaming out for a broncos alternative. Either that isnt true or dolphins havent got the city excited yet. That’s not being negative, it’s commenting on a reality.

not sure what the rest of your little rant is about. If perth cant shift 10k full memberships for the first year I’ll be worried And equally critical.

I wasn't being specific on any topic, just a general observation on how nearly every post made by yourself is either negative or glass half full, unless its about WA specific

 

[The Great Dane]

Even a broken clock is right twice a day

The amount of cognitive dissonance people like you display is truly astounding.

It's literally impossible for me to empathise with people whom are consistently provably wrong, yet don't take that as sign that they need to reflect on their view of the world.

it’s been 15 years and I’ve been waiting for you to post something right

You're totally wrong again, what a surprise...

 

[Iamback]

Glass half empty kind of guy.

Any reason to down play NRL he takes

 

[The Great Dane]

I don't think @The Great Dane has written off the Dolphins. All he's said is the way they've marketed themselves will prevent them from appealing to RL fans across the entire Greater Brisbane region. I think he's got a point. I don't think it's impossible for a few people from Ipswich, Logan and southern Brisbane to choose the Dolphins as their main team, but I think they will be a small minority for at least the first ten years of the Dolphins journey in the NRL. It's going to take time for them to develop a sizeable fanbase outside of Redcliffe and require things outside of their control to go their way.

You know instead of speculating one of you could have just asked me to clarify my position on the Dolphins...

Put simplistically for sake of time; though the Dolphins won't be a total failure (i.e. fold), their business decisions have made it impossible for them to live up to the full potential that a 2nd Brisbane side had, and in a lot of ways that's worse than them being a total failure (though that's it's own tangent for another time).

In other words they'll survive just fine, but they'll be a comparatively small club compared to what was possible, and have to rely on success on the pitch to pull numbers anywhere near what was possible as standard for a well constructed 2nd Brisbane side.

Aside from potentially during the initial novelty period, their club will never really rival the Broncos in size, and their attendance, season ticket holders, memberships, ratings, etc, will never crack the numbers that a side that played fulltime out of modern centralised stadia and had the ability to represent a significant portion of the population could have had.

BTW, I might add that the Dolphins have gone pretty much exactly as I've predicted that they would so far.
The only thing I got wrong is that I thought that they'd be bold enough to push on with the Redcliffe name from the start, but aside from that I've arcuately predicted everything they've done and has happened to them as a result so far.

 

[Iamback]

My opinion is the fact they couldnt shift 12k full memberships for their first year is a concern given all we’ve heard for years is that brisbane is screaming out for a broncos alternative. Either that isnt true or dolphins havent got the city excited yet. That’s not being negative, it’s commenting on a reality.

not sure what the rest of your little rant is about. If perth cant shift 10k full memberships for the first year I’ll be worried And equally critical.

How many clubs have that many full members this far out though?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

You know instead of speculating one of you could have just asked me to clarify my position on the Dolphins...

Put simplistically for sake of time; though the Dolphins won't be a total failure (i.e. fold), their business decisions have made it impossible for them to live up to the full potential that a 2nd Brisbane side had, and in a lot of ways that's worse than them being a total failure (though that's it's own tangent for another time).

In other words they'll survive just fine, but they'll be a comparatively small club compared to what was possible, and have to rely on success on the pitch to pull numbers anywhere near what was possible as standard for a well constructed 2nd Brisbane side.

Aside from potentially during the initial novelty period, their club will never really rival the Broncos in size, and their attendance, season ticket holders, memberships, ratings, etc, will never crack the numbers that a side that played fulltime out of modern centralised stadia and had the ability to represent a significant portion of the population could have had.

BTW, I might add that the Dolphins have gone pretty much exactly as I've predicted that they would so far.
The only thing I got wrong is that I thought that they'd be bold enough to push on with the Redcliffe name from the start, but aside from that I've arcuately predicted everything they've done and has happened to them as a result so far.

If they played all of their games out of Lang Park then I would be optimistic about their chances of growing a fanbase outside of Redcliffe.

The first season of a club usually draws strong public interest and pulls good crowds because people are curious about the "new" brand. Dolphins won't get good crowds because they're playing three games at a geographically isolated venue that only has 10k seats and standing room for 1.5k people. They've wasted their opportunity to generate strong interest across the city during the one and only period they'll have to be noticed.

As the seasons roll by they'll become another Titans who've generated a negative reputation that'll be hard to shake. The only thing that can save the Dolphins and Titans is consistent onfield success.

 

[Perth Red]

I wasn't being specific on any topic, just a general observation on how nearly every post made by yourself is either negative or glass half full, unless its about WA specific

People see what they want to see

 

[Perth Red]

You know instead of speculating one of you could have just asked me to clarify my position on the Dolphins...

Put simplistically for sake of time; though the Dolphins won't be a total failure (i.e. fold), their business decisions have made it impossible for them to live up to the full potential that a 2nd Brisbane side had, and in a lot of ways that's worse than them being a total failure (though that's it's own tangent for another time).

In other words they'll survive just fine, but they'll be a comparatively small club compared to what was possible, and have to rely on success on the pitch to pull numbers anywhere near what was possible as standard for a well constructed 2nd Brisbane side.

Aside from potentially during the initial novelty period, their club will never really rival the Broncos in size, and their attendance, season ticket holders, memberships, ratings, etc, will never crack the numbers that a side that played fulltime out of modern centralised stadia and had the ability to represent a significant portion of the population could have had.

BTW, I might add that the Dolphins have gone pretty much exactly as I've predicted that they would so far.
The only thing I got wrong is that I thought that they'd be bold enough to push on with the Redcliffe name from the start, but aside from that I've arcuately predicted everything they've done and has happened to them as a result so far.

Tbf a lot of the folk on here just like a circle jerk and pile on and don’t want to debate. The fact we are already talking about needing brisbane3 shows what a cluster f**k of a choice it was.
You’re right they won’t fold, they have plenty of other revenue to keep them afloat, but they also may take a very long time, if ever to be any sort of rival off the field to the broncos. For the sake of expansion I hope you and I are wrong and thyea re a roaring success from day 1, time will tell but not being able to shift 12k memberships isnt a great start.

but anyway WA bears thread,

 

[MugaB]

People see what they want to see

Well there's a lotta people of this forum, they all seem to see, how negative your posts are, might want to get less predictable and throw in a few optimistic posts

 

[Perth Red]

How many clubs have that many full members this far out though?

The fact they changed their membership structure just a few months into it suggests they weren’t confident of ever shifting 12k. I wonder how many they did actually sell of the full Suncorp and Redcliffe membership?

 

[Perth Red]

Well there's a lotta people of this forum, they all seem to see, how negative your posts are, might want to get less predictable and throw in a few optimistic posts

theres nothing so blind as the easily led.

 

[MugaB]

theres nothing so blind as the easily led.

Positivity brother, WA Bears