WA BEARS

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

If you wanted to fast track Adelaide and not spend twenty years getting it ready for an nrl club of its own then yes it would make a lot more sense.

I suspect there would be a massive push back from perth if ns bears were given the perth license.
If they did it like swans and moved the club, ownership, brand change etc all to perth then it would be better received.

A fifo sydney club playing in perth would be mocked mercilessly by other sports and the media, perth is incredibly parochial.

That's why I'm against the Bears having anything to do with a Perth team. The game has enough corporate support in Perth to field a team of their own and don't need the internal conflict that the Bears will deliberately create. The Sydney media will do everything it can to bring the team to NSW.

The Western Australian Gov travelled to Brisbane to express their interest in competing in the NRL. V'landys dismissed their expression of interest on the spot by telling them to "talk with the Bears". He's a poor leader and has set the game back 10 or 20 years with his borderline corrupt management.

The only way I can see Bears making the game better is if they swallow their pride and relocate full time to Adelaide with no "home" games in Sydney. Give the Bears no more than a 20% stake in the club. If they're unwilling to do that then tell them to get f**ked.

 

[Pneuma]

That's why I'm against the Bears having anything to do with a Perth team. The game has enough corporate support in Perth to field a team of their own and don't need the infighting that the Bears will cause.

The only way I can see Bears making the game better is if they swallow their pride and relocate full time to Adelaide with no "home" games in Sydney. Give the Bears no more than a 20% stake in the club. If they're unwilling to do that then tell them to get f**ked.

Did you stroke your chin when you wrote that? When does the stuff kick in?

 

[MugaB]

Did you stroke your chin when you wrote that? When does the stuff kick in?

Chin, you mean his potato

 

[Perth Red]

As the saying goes haters gonna hate.
I'll back any CEO/leader that gets a code successfully through a disaster like COVID circa 2020/2021.The thought of Greenberg and Gallop attempting to do so would leave me a tad shaky.

It’s almost like every sport didn’t make it through covid? Nrl did nothing unique. In fact afl not only got through it but then somehow Managed to convince tv to give them all the money back they saved during that period!

 

[MugaB]

It’s almost like every sport didn’t make it through covid? Nrl did nothing unique. In fact afl not only got through it but then somehow Managed to convince tv to give them all the money back they saved during that period!

FMD anything to bring up AWFL

 

[Pneuma]

It’s almost like every sport didn’t make it through covid? Nrl did nothing unique. In fact afl not only got through it but then somehow Managed to convince tv to give them all the money back they saved during that period!

You bloody whinger.

 

[Pneuma]

FMD anything to bring up AWFL

He’s a wanker. A massive afl loving turd.

 

[Perth Red]

FMD anything to bring up AWFL

facts are facts. If you’re going to spruik Vlandys as some kind of messiah for the covid restart then you’d might like to consider how our competitors did out of it. It cost us Aron d $70mill in tv reduction, they got all that back. How’s Vlandys look now considering that?

 

[Pneuma]

facts are facts. If you’re going to spruik Vlandys as some kind of messiah for the covid restart then you’d might like to consider how our competitors did out of it. It cost us Aron d $70mill in tv reduction, they got all that back. How’s Vlandys look now considering that?

Facts are you are an afl troll. A pathetic old piss head afl troll

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

facts are facts. If you’re going to spruik Vlandys as some kind of messiah for the covid restart then you’d might like to consider how our competitors did out of it. It cost us Aron d $70mill in tv reduction, they got all that back. How’s Vlandys look now considering that?

V'landys negotiated the worst broadcast rights deal since David Gallop in the mid-00s. That's Gallop's legacy. It's now V'landys' legacy, too. Only the hardcore NSWRL fans will speak fondly of V'landys is 10 years from now.

 

[Perth Red]

V'landys negotiated the worst broadcast rights deal since David Gallop in the mid-00s. That's Gallop's legacy. It's now V'landys' legacy, too. Only the hardcore NSWRL fans will speak fondly of V'landys is 10 years from now.

It’s staggering there has only been two news articles challenging the disaster that was the 2023 tv deal! I guess you really can buy the media! still clubs are happy, short term at least, they used it as leverage to make Vlandys pay to keep his job.

 

[taipan]

It’s almost like every sport didn’t make it through covid? Nrl did nothing unique. In fact afl not only got through it but then somehow Managed to convince tv to give them all the money back they saved during that period!

V'Landys went early was mocked for it by the AFL and other codes.In the end he was right by doing so, thus he was unique .The others were too f...n nervous to do so. V'Landys got off his a*se employed a disease expert to keep him up to date.Organising bubbles etc.
These clowns in the other codes, lacked that initiative or were sh*t scared to do so..
Fitzguts even had a shot at the NRL for going early, calling it irresponsible.The Vic Health Minister had a shot.
And even later some AFL types admitted the NRL had guts to do so. The AFL didn't have a team from overseas to worry about.Of course the AFL famously claims 30,000 players in N.Z, you'd probably believe them.
All the money back, sorry I don't believe what they say regarding money these days via the media re deals.There are contras etc .
And you think Greenberg ,Smith or Gallop would have gone early?

 

[taipan]

V'landys negotiated the worst broadcast rights deal since David Gallop in the mid-00s. That's Gallop's legacy. It's now V'landys' legacy, too. Only the hardcore NSWRL fans will speak fondly of V'landys is 10 years from now.

Then you know what the actual deals were and the contra values for deals under Smith, Greenberg ?
Because if you don't know the actual break up, you're p*ssing in the wind.

You forgot Smith f.d up the Tv deal by going early and excluding News, who happen to pay the larger % .
Yeah Gallop brought in the Titans ,and got caught when they got into deep financial trouble.Greenberg wanted to be best friends with everyone,business don't work that way.

 

[Perth Red]

V'Landys went early was mocked for it by the AFL and other codes.In the end he was right by doing so, thus he was unique .The others were too f...n nervous to do so. V'Landys got off his a*se employed a disease expert to keep him up to date.Organising bubbles etc.
These clowns in the other codes, lacked that initiative or were sh*t scared to do so..
Fitzguts even had a shot at the NRL for going early, calling it irresponsible.The Vic Health Minister had a shot.
And even later some AFL types admitted the NRL had guts to do so. The AFL didn't have a team from overseas to worry about.Of course the AFL famously claims 30,000 players in N.Z, you'd probably believe them.
All the money back, sorry I don't believe what they say regarding money these days via the media re deals.There are contras etc .
And you think Greenberg ,Smith or Gallop would have gone early?

No idea if they would or wouldn’t, smith probably, Greenberg unlikely.
he took a punt and it paid off, I’ll give him that. But in reality every sport got through covid, every sport got started back up that year, some did so and managed to negotiate deals that covered their losses and didn’t sign long term deals at a time of weakness that cost them hundreds of millions of $’s.
in all honesty would you rather have been first in starting back up or second and not lost hundreds of millions of $’s? I know which I’d have preferred!
you can not believe it all you like but reality is we signed a deal that cost us tens of millions in covid years, afl signed a deal that clawed all that back in 23/24. We signed an extended deal well below market value for 23- . afl waited, went to open market and reaped the rewards.
We got shafted, shafted ourselves, allowed ourselves to be shafted, take your pick, by Vlandys poor decisions.

 

[Perth Red]

Then you know what the actual deals were and the contra values for deals under Smith, Greenberg ?
Because if you don't know the actual break up, you're p*ssing in the wind.

You forgot Smith f.d up the Tv deal by going early and excluding News, who happen to pay the larger % .
Yeah Gallop brought in the Titans ,and got caught when they got into deep financial trouble.Greenberg wanted to be best friends with everyone,business don't work that way.

Yes we do, or we did until,he hid the numbers. Accountability is over rated!

$402x 5
v
$473 x 2
$643 x 7

hmmmmmm, I don’t think contra is going to make much difference lol

 

[Bukowski]

V'Landys went early was mocked for it by the AFL and other codes.In the end he was right by doing so, thus he was unique .The others were too f...n nervous to do so. V'Landys got off his a*se employed a disease expert to keep him up to date.Organising bubbles etc.
These clowns in the other codes, lacked that initiative or were sh*t scared to do so..
Fitzguts even had a shot at the NRL for going early, calling it irresponsible.The Vic Health Minister had a shot.
And even later some AFL types admitted the NRL had guts to do so. The AFL didn't have a team from overseas to worry about.Of course the AFL famously claims 30,000 players in N.Z, you'd probably believe them.
All the money back, sorry I don't believe what they say regarding money these days via the media re deals.There are contras etc .
And you think Greenberg ,Smith or Gallop would have gone early?

I really believe some clubs would have gone under if Greenburg was in charge.

 

[taipan]

It’s staggering there has only been two news articles challenging the disaster that was the 2023 tv deal! I guess you really can buy the media! still clubs are happy, short term at least, they used it as leverage to make Vlandys pay to keep his job.

Perhaps it's due to the fact the real figures cash wise and contra has not been spelt out. Only media conjecture and conjecture means SFA.If it was such a disaster the clubs would not be getting what they are ATM.
I've read comments by Masters, the Australia journos and telecrap journos , been conned before.
That's all BS about him keeping his job.He was no doubt earning a heathy retainer in the racing industry and took on this extra job.During COVID he had to look after the NRL and horse racing.
I doubt he would go broke back in the racing.
At least he expanded into Queensland with another much needed team in the heartland.H played RL in heartland territory :Wollongong.
The clubs would have a better idea of the cash deal ,than you or I, streaming ,international.
Your last line in all codes if the CEO is not performing his tenure is at risk.It happens in the commercial world.
The disaster started when your beloved Smith went feral and thought he'd be commercially smart and ignore the main cash supplier.Forgetting also that News was responsible for the Storm backing for may years.
The AFL includes 7 and News in negotiations, because they work in tandem .

 

[Perth Red]

Always happy to discuss media deals in the media section,especially with those with their heads buried deeply in the sand, anyways back to the wa bears.

 

[Pneuma]

Yes we do, or we did until,he hid the numbers. Accountability is over rated!

$402x 5
v
$473 x 2
$643 x 7

hmmmmmm, I don’t think contra is going to make much difference lol

Repetitive negative turd

 

[Pneuma]

Always happy to discuss media deals in the media section,especially with those with their heads buried deeply in the sand, anyways back to the wa bears.

Do you go off thread and have a massive whinge about V’landys and then whinge about the thread being off topic. What a bloody hypocrite