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[Wb1234]

Well it would be different for teams like Melbourne and the Western Bears who are in AFL locations, but yes, teams with weaker junior areas who latch onto an area, develop it and call it their own, most certainly.

Penrith are spending money on Bathurst

storm don’t put much into their qld feeder teams

not the same

those qld juniors would be funded by the qrl or a local leagues club which the storm arr bludging off

its about growing junior numbers

 

[Matt_CBY]

Albury, Bellingen, Dubbo, Kohukohu and Temora aren’t though

#NotBathurst

 

[Iamback]

So Melbourne get discounts for all the qlanders that came from their adopted catchment areas?

I'd have no issue with this. Particularly as development is key for the expansion clubs

 

[Iamback]

It is, but Im not the one calling for salary cap bonuses for 'producing' players.

if x club goes to area and gets kid. That hasn't played in another system he is a junior

 

[Perth Red]

Penrith are spending money on Bathurst

storm don’t put much into their qld feeder teams

not the same

those qld juniors would be funded by the qrl or a local leagues club which the storm arr bludging off

its about growing junior numbers

Penrith are paid by bathurst lol
how do you know how much Storm are putting into queensland partnerships?

youre right it’s not the same!

 

[Perth Red]

if x club goes to area and gets kid. That hasn't played in another system he is a junior

At what age?
afe you suggesting if a club signs a player for sg ball that has previously been in a hm ball side of another club they shouldn’t then count as a jnr developed plAyer of that club, even though they may have been 1 year in the first nrl clubs system and 6 in the second?

 

[Perth Red]

I'd have no issue with this. Particularly as development is key for the expansion clubs

Great so Storm and panthers are even more dominant in the nrl comp?

 

[Wb1234]

Penrith are paid by bathurst lol
how do you know how much Storm are putting into queensland partnerships?

youre right it’s not the same!

Clubs should be growing the amount of juniors

not rocket science

 

[Iamback]

Great so Storm and panthers are even more dominant in the nrl comp?

Maybe other teams will develop talent. Instead of throwing money at players in others teams system as 'development'

 

[Iamback]

At what age?
afe you suggesting if a club signs a player for sg ball that has previously been in a hm ball side of another club they shouldn’t then count as a jnr developed plAyer of that club, even though they may have been 1 year in the first nrl clubs system and 6 in the second?

Well no most have been in programs from 14.

Most u15's in schoolboy tournaments are aligned with a club.

Another club scout poaching that kid isn't junior development. Clubs need to be encouraged to go to the bush and get their own 14 year olds

 

[titoelcolombiano]

We’ll see if the statistics carry over or not.

If they do, then the Dolphins have every right to claim their two first grade premierships. ARL was created in 1995 to supersede the NSWRL and QRL competitions as the only first grade competition in Australia. If every other first grade premiership pre 1995 counts, then so should the Dolphins' of 1965 and 1994

 

[Centy Coast]

Maybe other teams will develop talent. Instead of throwing money at players in others teams system as 'development'

I agree 100% and have been saying this for years, if all teams start doing what the Roosters and the Bulldogs have been doing, rugby league will die a slow death.
If it takes the Panthers winning 15 straight premierships for other clubs to start developing their junior nurseries is that such a bad thing ?.
Whenever expansion is disgussed the first thing people say is that there isn’t enough talent, maybe look at your own clubs and find the answers why ?.
Clubs are looking for a quick fix to be competitive, to win that premiership but it doesn’t work that way.

 

[Wb1234]

Well no most have been in programs from 14.

Most u15's in schoolboy tournaments are aligned with a club.

Another club scout poaching that kid isn't junior development. Clubs need to be encouraged to go to the bush and get their own 14 year olds

Country nsw and qld
Nz

as secondary locations

for storm the focus should be in victoria

and western it will be wa plus what the bears can do

 

[Wb1234]

I agree 100% and have been saying this for years, if all teams start doing what the Roosters and the Bulldogs have been doing, rugby league will die a slow death.
If it takes the Panthers winning 15 straight premierships for other clubs to start developing their junior nurseries is that such a bad thing ?.
Whenever expansion is disgussed the first thing people say is that there isn’t enough talent, maybe look at your own clubs and find the answers why ?.
Clubs are looking for a quick fix to be competitive, to win that premiership but it doesn’t work that way.

Exactly
This is why I want Penrith to keep winning the nrl to make all the bludger clubs copy them

 

[Wb1234]

Loads of articles on this just one I picked

https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/05/09/discounts-for-player-development-make-sense-but-dont-count-on-nrl-helping-panthers-to-keep-home-grown-stars/amp/

I think a system that gives bigger percentage discounts to a junior the longer they have been in pathways

eg under 21s to first grade 20 percent off his wages

under 18 to first grade 30 percent of his wages

under 16 to first grade 40 percent of his wages

and those concessions last as long as that player stays at that club

this would reward development clubs

and leagues clubs would hugely increase spending on juniors at no cost to the game

it also promotes player loyalty which is good for fans

 

[blue bags]

Well it would be different for teams like Melbourne and the Western Bears who are in AFL locations, but yes, teams with weaker junior areas who latch onto an area, develop it and call it their own, most certainly.

Like the Roosters and the central coast

 

[Iamback]

I agree 100% and have been saying this for years, if all teams start doing what the Roosters and the Bulldogs have been doing, rugby league will die a slow death.
If it takes the Panthers winning 15 straight premierships for other clubs to start developing their junior nurseries is that such a bad thing ?.
Whenever expansion is disgussed the first thing people say is that there isn’t enough talent, maybe look at your own clubs and find the answers why ?.
Clubs are looking for a quick fix to be competitive, to win that premiership but it doesn’t work that way.

It really isn't that hard.
Imagine the Roosters putting $1m into the local comp up there instead of just the rep team.

Dogs the same with Gabriel and a few others in their Flegg team named this week are players poached

 

[Iamback]

Country nsw and qld
Nz

as secondary locations

for storm the focus should be in victoria

and western it will be wa plus what the bears can do

If the Bears have 30 locals and over the cap due to concessions RL will be in a strong place

 

[flippikat]

If they do, then the Dolphins have every right to claim their two first grade premierships. ARL was created in 1995 to supersede the NSWRL and QRL competitions as the only first grade competition in Australia. If every other first grade premiership pre 1995 counts, then so should the Dolphins' of 1965 and 1994

That's a fair point - and if Brisbane (Easts) Tigers snare themselves a place in the NRL, then their 8 BRL premierships before 1995 puts them up there with the Sea Eagles & Bulldogs (as it currently stands) - equal 5th place for premierships behind Souths, Easts/Sydney Roosters & St George (Equal 2nd), and Balmain (4th).


To be fair to Queensland, both NSWRL AND BRL premierships up to 1994 should count as top club tier.

 

[Vlad59]

Penrith are spending money on Bathurst

storm don’t put much into their qld feeder teams

not the same

those qld juniors would be funded by the qrl or a local leagues club which the storm arr bludging off

its about growing junior numbers

More anti Storm negative tripe from the little man with a massive chip on his shoulder.