WA BEARS

[Iamback]

Problem is not every club region is equal. Nor is every clubs ability to spend big on pathways. Some clubs by the pure geography and socio economic make up of population have much bigger jnr participation rates. That’s got nothing to do with what the nrl club is doing. Some clubs have big pokie dens than can spend big on elite pathway programs and entice the best kids from other clubs areas,

so to reward clubs that already have significant advantages over others seems somewhat unfair.

I note panthers are out signing players from other clubs at the moment to fill some of their gaps from players moving on. it’ll be interesting if this was a fluke generational one off period for them or if they can keep bringing through local talent at that talent level. Juries out.

It doesn't have to be though.

Sharks for example are boxed in by water so are limited but do work with Coffs Harbour area. That expands their area.

As for us. Yes we got Talagi but the 20 year old fullback Parra got in return will be a star.

Storm had 2 Penrith guys debut v Cowboys the other week that is how a free market works

 

[Matt_CBY]

Yes but imagine if every club developed juniors, the Panthers have to release players who have come through their junior nursery.
So the Panthers should be rewarded with Premierships, but should the Roosters ?, should the Bulldogs ?.
Two clubs who just continue to buy players here, there and everywhere.

Don’t believe the Bulldogs deserve to be in the same conversation as the Roosters, neither historically nor into the future.

 

[Centy Coast]

Don’t believe the Bulldogs deserve to be in the same conversation as the Roosters, neither historically nor into the future.

For their last four years of recruiting they certainly do.

 

[Wb1234]

Don’t believe the Bulldogs deserve to be in the same conversation as the Roosters, neither historically nor into the future.

Dogs have stacked their juniors from elsewhere

they even paid 500k transfer free to get Karl olappau from qld

 

[Matt_CBY]

For their last four years of recruiting they certainly do.

Ah recency bias.

 

[Matt_CBY]

Dogs have stacked their juniors from elsewhere

they even paid 500k transfer free to get Karl olappau from qld

All clubs recruit at the junior level.

Plenty of Bulldog products coming through the ranks at the moment.

 

[Centy Coast]

All clubs recruit at the junior level.

Plenty of Bulldog products coming through the ranks at the moment.

The Canterbury Panthers, if you can’t beat them lol.

 

[Wb1234]

All clubs recruit at the junior level.

Plenty of Bulldog products coming through the ranks at the moment.

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The Canterbury Panthers, if you can’t beat them lol.

Bred not bought

 

[Matt_CBY]

The Canterbury Panthers, if you can’t beat them lol.

Lazy joke

 

[Matt_CBY]

G
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Bred not bought

Yeah for real Gee.

 

[blue bags]

Dogs have stacked their juniors from elsewhere

they even paid 500k transfer free to get Karl olappau from qld

Free ?
Wow Bargain

 

[Perth Red]

It doesn't have to be though.

Sharks for example are boxed in by water so are limited but do work with Coffs Harbour area. That expands their area.

As for us. Yes we got Talagi but the 20 year old fullback Parra got in return will be a star.

Storm had 2 Penrith guys debut v Cowboys the other week that is how a free market works

It is, but Im not the one calling for salary cap bonuses for 'producing' players.

 

[Perth Red]

All clubs recruit at the junior level.

Plenty of Bulldog products coming through the ranks at the moment.

And thats the problem, what constituters a 'jnr'? Does the player have to have been born and played all his life in the clubs catchment, or joined the club at HM ball age, or sg ball age, or Flegg age? or just debuted at NR; level for the club?

I often hear the 'we should reward clubs that produce players'. with little consideration to what 'produce' actually means.

 

[Centy Coast]

And thats the problem, what constituters a 'jnr'? Does the player have to have been born and played all his life in the clubs catchment, or joined the club at HM ball age, or sg ball age, or Flegg age? or just debuted at NR; level for the club?

I often hear the 'we should reward clubs that produce players'. with little consideration to what 'produce' actually means.

There would be different tiers, a player in the catchment area from the local junior competition to NRL should get the greater discount % under the salary cap.
Then you would go junior reps e.g. Harold Matt’s, S.G.Ball, Jersey Flegg.
Then there should be concessions for long serving players for 10 years service.
Clubs obviously can’t keep every player but this would give them the option to possibly keep the ones they want to keep.

 

[MugaB]

Dogs have stacked their juniors from elsewhere

they even paid 500k transfer free to get Karl olappau from qld

So what? Do you think we just picked up James fisher Harris from the local stmarys shops? They went to NZ and hand picked him just like gus & co did with most of our and dogs juniors.. Edwards, Yeo and Martin aren't from Penrith lol

 

[Wb1234]

So what? Do you think we just picked up James fisher Harris from the local stmarys shops? They went to NZ and hand picked him just like gus & co did with most of our and dogs juniors.. Edwards, Yeo and Martin aren't from Penrith lol

Bathurst is a Penrith junior catchment

shocked you don’t know that lol

 

[Matt_CBY]

Albury, Bellingen, Dubbo, Kohukohu and Temora aren’t though.

 

[Perth Red]

There would be different tiers, a player in the catchment area from the local junior competition to NRL should get the greater discount % under the salary cap.
Then you would go junior reps e.g. Harold Matt’s, S.G.Ball, Jersey Flegg.
Then there should be concessions for long serving players for 10 years service.
Clubs obviously can’t keep every player but this would give them the option to possibly keep the ones they want to keep.

So Melbourne get discounts for all the qlanders that came from their adopted catchment areas?

 

[Wb1234]

Albury, Bellingen, Dubbo, Kohukohu and Temora aren’t though.

How many of the dogs current first grade come from their actual local juniors

how many will in the next five years ?

Gus is trying to turn things around but he did say traditional juniors catchments have been neglected for ages

just like when he took over Penrith their systems were crap too

 

[Centy Coast]

So Melbourne get discounts for all the qlanders that came from their adopted catchment areas?

Well it would be different for teams like Melbourne and the Western Bears who are in AFL locations, but yes, teams with weaker junior areas who latch onto an area, develop it and call it their own, most certainly.