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Wayne Bennett quitting the Knights

Snappy

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Naw, Broncos fans thinking Bennett will bring back the glory days :lol:

Isn't that cute...

Pretty funny coming from a Knights fan. Remember the threads going around before he went to Newcastle. Plenty of knights fans predicting multiple premierships in the 4 year term. Someone should find and bump those threads for some lols
 

pantherz9103

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To all those who think Wayne will bring back the glory days. How is Wayne doing lately?.. This hardly makes me fear the Broncos will return to the glory days. They are only in the top 8 due to their favourable draw. They still routinely choke in tight games, only against other choker in the Warriors did they get a tight win. It's still one of the worst Broncos teams and bringing back a dinosaur coach who won comps with quality rosters doesn't change that.
 

Canard

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I said the broncos were a top four side before the season started, got laughed at. Hoffman in the 6 has cost us at least two games, those points would see us equal first right now.

You think your the only team that thinks this way?

Shit according to 95% the only reason their teams lose is because of "f**kun refs!!"
 

Mr Spock!

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Bennett won't have Lockyer to lean on.

Doubt we'll see much improvement from this year when Broncs miss the 8 again.
 

Dazzat

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To all those who think Wayne will bring back the glory days. How is Wayne doing lately?.. This hardly makes me fear the Broncos will return to the glory days. They are only in the top 8 due to their favourable draw. They still routinely choke in tight games, only against other choker in the Warriors did they get a tight win. It's still one of the worst Broncos teams and bringing back a dinosaur coach who won comps with quality rosters doesn't change that.

Not looking for the glory days - just sick of a coach who makes stupid decisions consistently.

Not looking for miracles from Bennett, but just fostering a commitment to developing young players which has absolutely vanished from the Brisbane culture.

If you doubt Bennett's ability in this area, just look at the Queensland State of Origin success. Bennett has been the mastermind behind the scenes putting the structures in place to bring through the younger players.

It's like this - even though Brisbane are in the eight, most Brisbane fans are unhappy. Why? Because of the stagnation in the place. No vision for the future. No encouragement of young players - it all just seemed to be about Griffin's survival.
 

Mr Spock!

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Not looking for the glory days - just sick of a coach who makes stupid decisions consistently.

Not looking for miracles from Bennett, but just fostering a commitment to developing young players which has absolutely vanished from the Brisbane culture.

If you doubt Bennett's ability in this area, just look at the Queensland State of Origin success. Bennett has been the mastermind behind the scenes putting the structures in place to bring through the younger players.

It's like this - even though Brisbane are in the eight, most Brisbane fans are unhappy. Why? Because of the stagnation in the place. No vision for the future. No encouragement of young players - it all just seemed to be about Griffin's survival.

Broncs junior recruitment suffered with the loss of Cyril Connell.

It wasn't Bennett who was scouting regional Qld and putting 12 year olds on scholarships.
 

Diesel

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There didn't seem to be many clubs in the hunt for Bennett, was his asking price too high, or it was common knowledge he was going to back home to his family?
 

Dazzat

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Broncs junior recruitment suffered with the loss of Cyril Connell.

It wasn't Bennett who was scouting regional Qld and putting 12 year olds on scholarships.

The problem has been who replaced Connell - lately Andrew Gee who has now left the building, replaced by Peter Nolan who has already scored some successes - Mitch Garbitt for one.
 

Dazzat

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Broncs junior recruitment suffered with the loss of Cyril Connell.

It wasn't Bennett who was scouting regional Qld and putting 12 year olds on scholarships.

Bennett is the first to give massive credit to Cyril Connell. They were a great team. Connell would bring them to the club, and Bennett would develop them. Just read any biography of a great Broncos player and you'll see that.

Some just can't give credit where its due. It's the Australian way. Bennett remains the winning-est coach in NRL history, has nothing more to prove, so if you want to keep spreading your hate against Bennett go ahead. We'll just be mildly happy that the great man has returned.
 

Jobdog

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OPINION: Why Wayne Bennett should go now
By KEVIN CRANSON
July 21, 2014, 7:44 p.m

WHOEVER is running the Knights at the moment should show Wayne Bennett the door immediately and appoint Rick Stone as head coach.

The news that Bennett is heading back to the Broncos makes his position at Newcastle untenable, and those left to clean up the mess at the Knights can’t get on with that job while they don’t have a coach.

Bennett is going to the opposition. It’s as simple as that.

He can’t plan the revival of the club he coached to six premierships and oversee Newcastle’s battle to avoid the wooden spoon at the same time.

At best, his attention will be divided; at worst, there is a potential conflict of interests.

We are constantly being told that rugby league is a business these days, and a situation such as this would not be acceptable anywhere else in the business world.

Bennett has already said that rebuilding the Knights will take four or five years and that he is not the man for the job.

What he does want, we now know, is to do that job at Brisbane.

When the Knights, bankrolled by then-billionaire Nathan Tinkler, appointed Bennett to a four-year deal in 2012, Stone was moved aside in the understanding that he would learn from the supercoach and succeed him when he moved on.

Sure, Stone became the highest-paid reserve grade coach in the game as a result, but he has upheld his end of the bargain.

The deal should be honoured – if that still means anything in the game – even if those he made it with are no longer at the club.

The fact that Stone’s coaching record at the Knights is better than that of Bennett and achieved with far fewer resources and a weaker roster adds weight to his claim, as does the stated preference of club CEO Matt Gidley for a coach with local roots.

And yes, Bennett got the Knights to within a game of the grand final last season, but that was done with an ageing side that finished seventh and, as demonstrated this season, has clearly peaked.

Bennett’s impending return to Brisbane is not the only reason he should go.

He has given up on the Knights.

He said so himself on Sunday after the bitterly disappointing 22-8 loss to the Titans at Hunter Stadium on Rise For Alex day.

‘‘We finished up raining on our own parade. It’s just been such a crazy season, I’ve given up trying to work out why,’’ Bennett said.

‘‘There’s no reason for that type of performance here today from us. I just can’t get my head around it.’’

And there was this, too: ‘‘I can’t get my head around why we’ve won three in a row and we turn up here today on such a great occasion, wanting to repay everybody for their faith and their donations and everything, and we just, well, you watched it.

‘‘You saw it. I don’t have to add much more to it.

‘‘Maybe I’m too hard. Maybe there are a lot of those issues that still linger with them regarding Alex. You’d have to ask each one of them individually, and I don’t intend to do that.’’

Those comments about players, who by their own admission had ‘‘let our mate down’’, seem at odds with a man renowned as a caring coach.

It’s reminiscent of other comments Bennett has made after a loss.

Stuff like not knowing which team is going to get off the bus.

Well, it’s his job to know, and if he’s given up trying to work out why the Knights are so inconsistent, it’s time to move on.

It was even suggested in the Sunday edition of the Knights’ official paper, The Daily Telegraph, that Bennett has lost parts of the dressing room.

That kind of talk borders on sacrilegious when it comes to the most esteemed coach in the game. But if there is an inkling of truth to it then the situation won’t be helped by the knowledge that Bennett was deep in negotiations for a return to his spiritual home of Brisbane while his Newcastle players were preparing – unsuccessfully we now know – for the emotion-charged homecoming of Alex McKinnon for Sunday’s match.

Bennett is entitled to try to get himself another job, but now that he has done so he should go immediately.

The same should apply to Darius Boyd, who has reportedly already told friends he won’t be here next season.

If Matt Gidley, chairman Paul Harragon, NRL boss Dave Smith and the interim Knights board are serious about rebuilding the club, then ensuring that those employed by it have their heart in the job would be a good start.
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Mr Spock!

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he didn't have lockyer at the dragons either.

didn't seem to matter.

How'd the Broncs go when Lockyer was out?

SEPTEMBER 22, 2011 12:00AM

Over the past five years, Brisbane have won just nine of 34 games without Lockyer for a success rate of 26 per cent.With Lockyer in their side over the same time-frame, Brisbane have won 64 of 94 games for a stunning strike rate of 68 per cent.

That means Brisbane win 42 per cent more games with Lockyer available.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/n...n-darren-lockyer/story-e6frfgbo-1226143799598

Without Lockyer, Broncs were spooners.

Like the Knights without Johns.
 

veggiepatch1959

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An antique coach with an antique coaching style who has a love affair with antique players.

Should fit in well at the Broncos with the likes of Hodges, Parker and Hannant, etc.
 

Mr Spock!

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That stat is slightly misleading. Generally when Lockyer was missing, so were other rep players.

Not to say we didn't rely on him. Just not THAT much.

How many SOO games are played a year?

I remember the times when Lockyer was out long term.

Broncs were stuffed when that happened.

eg 2007 Lockyer ruptured his ACL subsequent results were

19 Parramatta Eels Loss 16 20 23 Jul Suncorp Stadium 25,702 5/16
20 Cronulla Sharks Win 30 16 29 Jul Suncorp Stadium 24,563 5/16
21 Manly Sea Eagles Loss 8 21 5 Aug Suncorp Stadium 35,784 6/16
22 Melbourne Storm Loss 6 14 12 Aug Olympic Park 7/16
23 Canterbury Bulldogs Loss 24 25 17 Aug Suncorp Stadium 35,199 9/16
24 Canberra Raiders Win 30 19 26 Aug Suncorp Stadium 31,614 8/16
25 Parramatta Eels Loss 22 68 2 Sep Parramatta Stadium 17,112 8/16
QF Melbourne Storm Loss 0 40 9 Sep Olympic Park 15,552
 

I Bleed Maroon

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I don't know why that old chestnut about Lockyer is being dug up now, when Bennett is going to have a halves pairing of Milford/Barba and Ben Hunt next year.
 

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