Welcome to the comp, Redcliffe.

[Perth Red]

Dolphin Oval is unfit for NRL games.

Does anyone know if a second tier can be added to its three stands without having to knock down what's there?

It has hardly any corporate boxes, it has no undercover seating and its capacity is 12k. Only the NRl would deem it a suitable venue for top tier games lol.

I doubt it, the angle of the stand is pretty shallow so adding another 5k plus seats on to the only one you could would push it way way back. The other stand you cant expand without pulling down as had asemi rook and boxes, and one end you cant build anything on as it has a LC plonked there. You'd literally need to demolish most of it and start again.

You could demolish the side stand and build a new big roofed one and build a stand at the end I suppose to get it up to 20k ish but why spend $150mill plus on a stadium that the tenant should be playing at Suncorp anyways?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

It has hardly any corporate boxes, it has no undercover seating and its capacity is 12k. Only the NRl would deem it a suitable venue for top tier games lol.

I doubt it, the angle of the stand is pretty shallow so adding another 5k plus seats on to the only one you could would push it way way back. The other stand you cant expand without pulling down as had asemi rook and boxes, and one end you cant build anything on as it has a LC plonked there. You'd literally need to demolish most of it and start again.

You could demolish the side stand and build a new big roofed one and build a stand at the end I suppose to get it up to 20k ish but why spend $150mill plus on a stadium that the tenant should be playing at Suncorp anyways?

They have no plans on rebuilding it.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

It wont be available for 9 rounds. I'd imagine with some creative scheduling and the byes the Broncos could get away with moving 2-3 home games max.
Interestingly they just launched their 2023 memberships with no mention of stadiums where they would be playing.

I agree about the creative scheduling, but that is out of the Dolphins' hands. They can make requests when the draw is being made, but it is ultimately the NRL that makes the decision so it's no use bagging them for using grounds other than Suncorp next year for the time it is unavailable.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

I was aware of that. How many games are they planning on playing at Suncorp nominally? Also, if the most of their support is going to come from the outskirts as opposed to the centre of the city is playing at Suncorp feasible. For example, supporters of say Cronulla or Manly (Penrith shouldn’t) due to their location would never consider playing the majority of their games at the SFS. Would this be any different with the Dolphins?

It is unclear of the exact split after 2023, however commercial realities will ensure that only one or two games will be taken away from Suncorp. I think the fact that they are based in Redcliffe will be irrelevant when they come into the comp. The fact that they are playing at Suncorp will ensure support from all corners of the city.

 

[xe_kilroy]

Fremantle and Perth are a stone's throw apart. Port Adelaide and Adelaide too. They work as two teams in a city (keyword), as a rivalry.

Geelong is a whole other city, a decent amount apart from Melbourne. The Dolphins in the NRL, and their idea of expanding the north, is akin to Geelong, and not to Fremantle or Port Adelaide. Or, akin to far west Sydney Giants.

I guarantee that the Dolphins will eventually have to change their name to either Brisbane, Redcliffe, Moreton Bay, or Sunshine Coast, once it realizes it cannot be a The realistically, that it can't try to be all things to all regions, and that it "has to" choose an identity/region.

Maybe the secret plan, a charter, is to go along like this for a while just to grow the north, until the north is ready to have its own team (SC Falcons) and will then settle on being called Brisbane, being a true #2 in Brisbane, representing the north of Brisbane as such whilst the Broncos represent the south, creating a compass rivalry kinda like the Swans and Giants being an east vs west divide.

 

[Iamback]

I agree about the creative scheduling, but that is out of the Dolphins' hands. They can make requests when the draw is being made, but it is ultimately the NRL that makes the decision so it's no use bagging them for using grounds other than Suncorp next year for the time it is unavailable.

It isn't just them Roosters, Storm, Souths, Bulldogs ( Accor games) Origin is all going to be affected. So reality is several games will get moved.
Roosters use Gosford sometimes, Dogs CommBank. Not sure the other sides back up grounds

 

[Colk]

It is unclear of the exact split after 2023, however commercial realities will ensure that only one or two games will be taken away from Suncorp. I think the fact that they are based in Redcliffe will be irrelevant when they come into the comp. The fact that they are playing at Suncorp will ensure support from all corners of the city.

I’d like to think that you’re right.

 

[mongoose]

It is unclear of the exact split after 2023, however commercial realities will ensure that only one or two games will be taken away from Suncorp. I think the fact that they are based in Redcliffe will be irrelevant when they come into the comp. The fact that they are playing at Suncorp will ensure support from all corners of the city.

I think they are lucky that the demand for more NRL in Brisbane is so strong. There is a critical mass of people who are willing to support any new team.

 

[Wb1234]

Storm have upped the ante with ‘$1m’ Munster offer. This is how they will find space in the cap

Storm have upped the ante with ‘$1m’ Munster offer. This is how they will find space in the cap

www.foxsports.com.au

He won’t leave now

 

[The Great Dane]

Exactly. As I mentioned earlier. Using a RL analogy it is like incepting Cronulla or Penrith and asking them to play the majority of or all their games at SFS.

The only way it would work is if essentially they gain support in the centre of Brisbane, otherwise they will revert to becoming a Moreton Bay/Sunshine Coast team

Which has been their intention all along, and why they never should have been allowed near the NRL...

 

[The Great Dane]

What is better a team with 70 years of history with $200m in the bank

Or some rich guy wanting a team with no history in the game putting the same amount in?

That's a false dichotomy, and you dodged my question.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I have to admit, Redcliffe will not appeal to many people in Ipswich, Logan and Redlands by focusing on Moreton Bay and Sunshine Coast.

This is a great opportunity for the Titans to expand into Logan and Redlands. A good start would be for the Titans to align themselves with every junior and senior club in Logan and Redlands. If done right then Dolphins and Titans could create a much needed "north vs south" rivalry along eastern Brisbane and its surrounds.

 

[The Great Dane]

It is unclear of the exact split after 2023, however commercial realities will ensure that only one or two games will be taken away from Suncorp.

You are delusional if you truly believe that they'll only play 1-2 games outside of Suncorp going into the future.

Most seasons that would mean either Redcliffe or the Sunshine Coast missing out, which isn't realistically going to happen. For example, they'll almost certainly have/end up with a contract with the Sunshine Coast Council that obliges them to play x amount at the Sunshine Coast Stadium each season.

Early in their bid, well before they'd tacked the token representation of the Sunshine Coast on, they were suggesting that they'd play between 3-5 at Dolphin Oval each season. So it's a safe assumption that, at least initially, they'll aim to play at least 3-5 home games away form Suncorp most seasons.

I think the fact that they are based in Redcliffe will be irrelevant when they come into the comp. The fact that they are playing at Suncorp will ensure support from all corners of the city.

Yep, utterly f**king delusional...

You know what I'll never understand about people like you; what you really want already exists, yet instead of just supporting that, you insist on trying to force the national product into becoming it as well...

 

[The Great Dane]

This is a great opportunity for the Titans to expand into Logan and Redlands. A good start would be for the Titans to align themselves with every junior and senior club in Logan and Redlands. If done right then Dolphins and Titans could create a much needed "north vs south" rivalry along eastern Brisbane and its surrounds.

There's no way that's realistic in reality, besides, the Titans should really be focused on conquering the GC before they set their sights on the rest of SEQ.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

There's no way that's realistic in reality, besides, the Titans should really be focused on conquering the GC before they set their sights on the rest of SEQ.

I heard that the Titans plan on reaching into Logan. They are already running clinics at junior clubs in southern Logan.

The Gold Coast is a popular destination for youths from Logan. If the Titans play their cards right they could win over the next generation in Logan.

 

[Perth Red]

You are delusional if you truly believe that they'll only play 1-2 games outside of Suncorp going into the future.

Most seasons that would mean either Redcliffe or the Sunshine Coast missing out, which isn't realistically going to happen. For example, they'll almost certainly have/end up with a contract with the Sunshine Coast Council that obliges them to play x amount at the Sunshine Coast Stadium each season.

Early in their bid, well before they'd tacked the token representation of the Sunshine Coast on, they were suggesting that they'd play between 3-5 at Dolphin Oval each season. So it's a safe assumption that, at least initially, they'll aim to play at least 3-5 home games away form Suncorp most seasons.

Yep, utterly f**king delusional...

You know what I'll never understand about people like you; what you really want already exists, yet instead of just supporting that, you insist on trying to force the national product into becoming it as well...

There's good reason News ltd choose them. The more they play outside of Brisbane the happier the NRL's paymasters are.

 

[jim_57]

Fremantle and Perth are a stone's throw apart. Port Adelaide and Adelaide too. They work as two teams in a city (keyword), as a rivalry.

Geelong is a whole other city, a decent amount apart from Melbourne. The Dolphins in the NRL, and their idea of expanding the north, is akin to Geelong, and not to Fremantle or Port Adelaide. Or, akin to far west Sydney Giants.

I guarantee that the Dolphins will eventually have to change their name to either Brisbane, Redcliffe, Moreton Bay, or Sunshine Coast, once it realizes it cannot be a The realistically, that it can't try to be all things to all regions, and that it "has to" choose an identity/region.

Maybe the secret plan, a charter, is to go along like this for a while just to grow the north, until the north is ready to have its own team (SC Falcons) and will then settle on being called Brisbane, being a true #2 in Brisbane, representing the north of Brisbane as such whilst the Broncos represent the south, creating a compass rivalry kinda like the Swans and Giants being an east vs west divide.

If that were the plan I think it would make more sense for Dolphins to become the Sunshine Coast/Moreton Bay team and play all of their games at Sunshine Coast stadium (rebuilt to 25k). Then have a genuine go at a second Brisbane/Suncorp club for team 19 or 20, assuming team 18 won’t be SEQ.

 

[Perth Red]

If that were the plan I think it would make more sense for Dolphins to become the Sunshine Coast/Moreton Bay team and play all of their games at Sunshine Coast stadium (rebuilt to 25k). Then have a genuine go at a second Brisbane/Suncorp club for team 19 or 20, assuming team 18 won’t be SEQ.

its 74km from redcliffe to SC stadium. It would make no sense at all lol.
The last thing NRL needs is another small regional club. Dolphins need to commit to being a northern Brisbane club playing 100% at Suncorp and stop with this playing across 3 venues rubbish.

 

[westerntiger]

Dolphins need to commit to being a northern Brisbane club playing 100% at Suncorp and stop with this playing across 3 venues rubbish.

What do you mean bro? Are you telling me nomad clubs don't work?

 

[Perth Red]

What do you mean bro? Are you telling me nomad clubs don't work?

you could say that lol. Dragons and Tigers have hardly been raging successes.